Is There a Case For Kucherov > Ovechkin?

[Danarqhy]

Simple question. Is there a case to be made that Nikita Kucherov is the overall better player than Alex Ovechkin? We're talking about career up until Kuchverov's age (29) and projection until they both retire. Will Kucherov be looked on as the better player between the two once they are both out of the league?

Points in favor of Kuch:

Insane Hockey IQ
Better playoffs production
Multiple cups and finals appearances

Points for ovechking:

The GOATscorer potentially.
Better peak.
Better name recognition/flashier player

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[ViD]

You do realize Ovechkin has a case for hockey Mt Rushmore if/when he breaks Gretzky goal record ?

 

[lardneau]

No

 

[Garbageyuk]

No

 

[Nasti]

You do realize Ovechkin has a case for hockey Mt Rushmore if/when he breaks Gretzky goal record ?

He has no case for hockey‘s Mt Rushmore.

 

[didimentionlarseller]

nope and lols

this is #1 bullshit now

 

[Rengorlex]

Minority, but I prefer his game to Ovechkin's.

 

[GordonGraham]

Is it a joke thread an all time great versus a guy who wouldn't make the top 100 of all time

 

[DrDangles]

Peak and career will undoubtedly favour Ovi, but talent wise I think arguments are valid both ways.

 

[GreatSaveEssensa]

OP you didn't see Ov in his prime did you? He was an absolute machine, and did a lot of his damage on a piss poor team the first 3 seasons. Prime OV puts prime Kucherov to shame ainec!

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

 

[Laus723]

No, Doucherov is not better than OV

 

[Regal]

Kucherov has been a better player from age 25-29, but Ovechkin was soo much better from 20-24, better at his best, healthier from 25-29, and so far has aged really well to the point we can’t assume Kucherov will age as well. It’s not close right now and there’s very little chance it will get all that close in the future

 

[Peeri]

 

[WaitingForThatCab]

Get back to me in ten-plus years.

 

[M2Beezy]

Know

 

[Midnight Judges]

This is not a very good thread.

 

[peconcan]

Not even close Ovechkin is going to retire as one of the goats and I wouldn’t even have Kucherov in the top 5 Russians all time

 

[canuckking1]

The Gap between the trophies cases between the 2 is like night and day.

 

[didimentionlarseller]

I dont even think Bud Light could get Ovechkin drunk

 

[Luigi Lemieux]

You do realize Ovechkin has a case for hockey Mt Rushmore if/when he breaks Gretzky goal record ?

Lol he has zero case. Generational goal scorer sure, but not generational player on the level of Orr, Howe, Gretzky, Lemieux. Too one dimensional.

 

[Alexander the Gr8]

As great as Kucherov is, he wasn't the best player in either of Tampa's Cup wins. His impact overlaps with Stamkos and Point. Hedman and Vasilevskiy were the bigger difference maker, hence their Conn Smythe awards.

Ovechkin is the greatest goalscorer of all time, he put hockey on the map in Washington and brought his team to the promised land.

- 3x Hart
- 3x Lindsay
- 9x Rocket
- 1x Art Ross
- 1x Conn Smythe
- 1x Calder
- 1x Stanley Cup

Ovechkin's legacy and impact on the game goes far beyond that of Kucherov, it's not close at all. He'll retire as a top 10 player of all time, I can't say the same for Kucherov.

 

[Hockeyholic]

Ummm....no

 

[Danarqhy]

OP you didn't see Ov in his prime did you? He was an absolute machine, and did a lot of his damage on a piss poor team the first 3 seasons. Prime OV puts prime Kucherov to shame ainec!

I did, Ovechkin was a skating highlight reel and my favourite player to watch. I'm not putting him down here. On top of that he's maintained an incredibly consistent level going into his late 30s, which is not easy to do. On the other hand Kucherov has played a much more rounded team game since first entering the league, and is also ahead in PPG in the playoffs. It seems like Kuch ALWAYS makes the right play and it has translated into a lot of playoffs success for the TBL, even though Kuch has played on more stacked teams. His 128 point season is also the highest we've seen in a long time, and higher than Ovechkin and Crosby ever scored, so it's not like Kuch doesn't have unbelievable peak numbers.

 

[GrumpyKoala]

I dont think so:
HM: I watch him play yesterday and his stick snap\60 was very good