Is Ryan Getzlaf going to be in the Hall of Fame?

[Crosby2010]

Just a simple question. He retired in 2022, will be eligible in 2025.

1019 points in 1157 games. 2nd team all-star in 2014. Finished as high for the Hart Trophy as 2nd, 6th and 7th. 282 career goals, which seems low, but he was a playmaker. Only scored 30 goals in a season (31) once. Highs of 91, 87 and 82 points. Three times in the top 10 in points, the highest being 2nd. Twice as high as 3rd in assists, and was top 10 seven different times. 5 times in the top 10 in points per game.

He played for Team Canada at the highest level in the 2010 and 2014 Olympics and the 2016 World Cup. Played really well in 2010 especially. Won a Cup in 2007 and for me I think his playoff resume is what will get him in. 120 points in 125 games. Several deep playoff runs and he was usually the one driving the bus for his teams that went deep.

I'll put him in, I am not sure where he ranks amongst centres in the Hall, but he is pretty close to the bottom. But for me he is still legitimately in there. Someone has to be close to the bottom, there has to be a barometer somewhere, not saying that it is Getzlaf who is the line drawn.

 

[BenchBrawl]

1st ballot in my eyes.

Excellent against other top centers and in the playoffs. Prototypical franchise #1 center coaches and GMs dream of.

 

[gotyournose]

I’ve always thought of him as HHoF worthy. Him and Perry were a great fit. He was one of the key members of Canada’s best on best run from 2010 to 2016

 

[PostBradMalone]

Yes, but not on the first go…

…which should ironically help Getz as by then Perry will have finally retired and become eligible himself, and there’s nothing the Committee loves more than a good story. I fully expect them to go in together, deserving or not.

 

[Terry Yake]

probably not first ballot, but he's getting in

olympic gold, WJC gold, WCH gold, and a cup (led the ducks in scoring in those playoffs.) also one of the most underrated playoff performers of the last 15-20 years

 

[Crosby2010]

probably not first ballot, but he's getting in

olympic gold, WJC gold, WCH gold, and a cup (led the ducks in scoring in those playoffs.) also one of the most underrated playoff performers of the last 15-20 years

Very interesting to note as well, and we forget this and I myself did not mention it in the original post. But he did lead the Ducks in scoring in the playoffs in 2007 with 17 points. It is forgotten because there were plenty of Ducks who played well but no one stood out. 5 players had at least 14 points. But it isn't outlandish to suggest Getzlaf could have won the Conn Smythe. Pronger would have been my pick I think. The spring of 2007 is definitely when Getzlaf arrived

 

[MadLuke]

Prime Getzalf went around 1.15 ppg in the playoff in a very low scoring era (he was among the very top scorer of that era) and looked dominant, controlling game against quite good opposition at time.

Only issue could be the stacked 2003 draft, could see some waiting and timing it with Perry could make sense for that weekend.

 

[Terry Yake]

Very interesting to note as well, and we forget this and I myself did not mention it in the original post. But he did lead the Ducks in scoring in the playoffs in 2007 with 17 points. It is forgotten because there were plenty of Ducks who played well but no one stood out. 5 players had at least 14 points. But it isn't outlandish to suggest Getzlaf could have won the Conn Smythe. Pronger would have been my pick I think. The spring of 2007 is definitely when Getzlaf arrived

getzlaf, pronger, selanne, niedermayer, and pahlsson were all worthy of winning the CS. if pronger hadn't gotten suspended on two different occasions during the playoffs, i think he would have won it. i personally would've given it to pahlsson. in the end, they went with the safe pick in niedermayer

 

[SpookyTsuki]

Maybe eventually I think he misses the first chance by a smidge.

 

[Crosby2010]

Prime Getzalf went around 1.15 ppg in the playoff in a very low scoring era (he was among the very top scorer of that era) and looked dominant, controlling game against quite good opposition at time.

Only issue could be the stacked 2003 draft, could see some waiting and timing it with Perry could make sense for that weekend.

Maybe it is determined that Perry is getting in, but honestly I am not an advocate for it. Not fully anyway. I am not holding his feet to the fire this year but he's having a lousy year. He's -26 on a good Tampa team. How is that possible? No one else on the team is close to him in that regards. I know that isn't the core of his career but he was never as good as Getzlaf. I know there is the Hart Trophy in 2011 and that big year, but this wasn't the rule for him, it was the exception. Maybe two great years, maybe two fairly good ones, and that's it. Has been all over the place in the playoffs, which is a good thing of course as he has been on teams that have done well. But 190 playoff games with just 119 points isn't necessarily what I would call something that puts him over the edge. He's a winger so there is less expectation on him than there would be for a centre, but I still don't see him in there.

 

[GMR]

He'll make it quite easily, possibly even first ballot.

 

[JackSlater]

Yeah he'll definitely get in. Definitely a guy who was better when it mattered than his counting totals indicate, which is somewhat good but also indicates his laziness sometimes. I think he benefits significantly from international hockey as he was one of the three key pillars that Canada built around at forward (with Crosby and Toews) during a period of great success. He probably benefits from Perry's Hart in a weird way as well since everyone knows that Getzlaf was the better player overall.

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

He's not in my HOF (yes, I have a very strict criteria for HOF worthy), but yeah he's easily getting into the HHOF

 

[EpochLink]

Yes he is, good regular season player and excellent post season resume.

 

[TheGoldenJet]

Not first ballot, but he gets in eventually. Waiting for Perry’s retirement to send both in together almost makes too much sense.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Yeah, but maybe a bit closer without the "Golden Canadian Gen boost" (aka played in the "golden era" of Canadian NHL players at the Olympics)

 

[MadLuke]

Which bring a bit of how many of the 2003 draft goes in question (many had a trajectory but did not hold up and many had quite the late career bloom in comparison like Burns, some had surprising longevity like Pavelski) and some had late nice development curve but short prime a la Byfuglien.

Bergeron-Getzlaf
Weber-Staal-Perry-Burns

Could end up less crowded a the HoF doors, was extremelly deep in high end talent but in HoF career maybe not significantly more than 1989.

 

[Michael Farkas]

He's not in my HOF (yes, I have a very strict criteria for HOF worthy), but yeah he's easily getting into the HHOF

I'm surprised (strict or not) that this isn't your type of player...

As for me, Getzlaf was even better than his numbers suggest. Easy in for me. And I'm a very small room guy...

 

[MS]

He's a Canadian player who is fawned over by the media and his resume is basically there, so he's getting in.

That said, his career is I think objectively worse than Patrik Elias' and they haven't put Elias in yet.

 

[wetcoast]

Yes, but not on the first go…

…which should ironically help Getz as by then Perry will have finally retired and become eligible himself, and there’s nothing the Committee loves more than a good story. I fully expect them to go in together, deserving or not.

Agree with this except Corey Perry simply isn't a HHOFer.

Getzlaf probably is a HHOF guy but it would help if he didn't miss little parts of seasons in his prime as much as he did.

 

[wetcoast]

He's not in my HOF (yes, I have a very strict criteria for HOF worthy), but yeah he's easily getting into the HHOF

Just curious but which current players are in your HHOF?

 

[MadLuke]

Hard to argue with the Elias comment (outside the spectacular to watch them maybe), very similar playoff success-performance, almost copy pasted Top 10 finish, single team, did longer

Points

2008-09 NHL 91 (6th)

2012-13 NHL 49 (10th)

2013-14 NHL 87 (2nd)

Points

2000-01 NHL 96 (3rd)

2003-04 NHL 81 (6th)

2011-12 NHL 78 (10th)

 

[Crosby2010]

As for me, Getzlaf was even better than his numbers suggest. Easy in for me. And I'm a very small room guy...

Call it the Sundin factor maybe? But yes, I agree. He has long been that type of player that can control the game a lot better than his stats show. Was always dangerous with the puck. Probably could have shot a bit more as well. It is no coincidence that McDavid's shot totals are up this year similar to his goals. Not saying Getzlaf could even have gotten 50, but I don't see why he couldn't have cracked 40. He was a playmaker first so far be it from me to tell him how to rack up his points.

Which bring a bit of how many of the 2003 draft goes in question (many had a trajectory but did not hold up and many had quite the late career bloom in comparison like Burns, some had surprising longevity like Pavelski) and some had late nice development curve but short prime a la Byfuglien.

Bergeron-Getzlaf
Weber-Staal-Perry-Burns

Could end up less crowded a the HoF doors, was extremelly deep in high end talent but in HoF career maybe not significantly more than 1989.

The 2003 draft was one of a lot of very good players. I am not sure how many are "great" but definitely a lot of guys who carved out some good careers. Lots of 1st rounders who played a lot of career games too. But HHOFers is a different story. I think you might be generous to a couple of them on there.

Fleury, Getzlaf, Bergeron, Weber would be my guys in the Hall. Staal just didn't maintain his great years, Perry didn't have enough either even though he is Mr. "Win at every level in every tournament". Burns will be an interesting guy when he retires. It will be interesting how he is perceived. Right now I'd say no to him. But either way, Getzlaf is for sure among the Hall group.

 

[Fish on The Sand]

Yes, but not on the first go…

…which should ironically help Getz as by then Perry will have finally retired and become eligible himself, and there’s nothing the Committee loves more than a good story. I fully expect them to go in together, deserving or not.

How would that help him? Surely making it on the first ballot is a surefire way to make the hall.

That's like when Tim McCarver was surprised that leading off an inning with a home run was more conducive to a multi run inning than a walk.

Making the HOF means he doesn't need help, and leading off with a homer means you already have one run in the bank.

 

[GMR]

Which bring a bit of how many of the 2003 draft goes in question (many had a trajectory but did not hold up and many had quite the late career bloom in comparison like Burns, some had surprising longevity like Pavelski) and some had late nice development curve but short prime a la Byfuglien.

Bergeron-Getzlaf
Weber-Staal-Perry-Burns

Could end up less crowded a the HoF doors, was extremelly deep in high end talent but in HoF career maybe not significantly more than 1989.

I would only induct Bergeron and Getzlaf, but I’m assuming all the players you listed make it.