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Is Nylander Better Than Tavares At This Point?

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Not trying to bash either player or anything... just genuinely curious what the responses will be.

He outscored him in points and goals and seems to be better at creating offense on his own and less reliant on teammates. He's obviously a much better skater and faster. I'm sure the veteran Tavares does have some nuances to his game that William lacks.

Which player do you think is better (outright and not relative to salary)?
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Willy has all da skills, all da speed and when he decides to play determined beast mode on puck it is he and Matty as top 2 players on team who can influence a game by themselves .. neither of those 2 needs someone else to own da puck .. JT needs someone to get da puck for him to finish and Mitch needs someone to pass puck to finish .. very few players have it all .. we need both Willy and Matty to bring their beast modes in game 1 to have a chance
 
Tavares is bringing the fire these playoff, you watch. This man captained Canada at the juniors. He knows how to win. If he doesn't, then we should be looking to offload him to Arizona for a few firsts with some retention, maybe.
 
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He was in the reg, we'll see in the offs. If he stays healthy I think JT will be great.

I still think a JT WN line could have been great if they found the right winger
 
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Two very different play styles, so it is difficult to compare.

I think Nylander is better. But it depends on what your team's needs are.
 
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I think it's close at this point. For me, JT is a really good player that brings a lot to the table. Had a down year and has lost a step, but overall still a great player.
 
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JT has been a lot more consistent than Nylander this year. Nylander has had higher highs and lower lows. His good moments are also a lot more noticeable, whereas Tavares does a lot of things that are simple and quiet that are not really talked about.

If I am just looking at what each brings without considering age and contract, I would still take Tavares right now, but hopefully with a better shooting percentage than he had this year and than with the Leafs in the playoffs.

Obviously Tavares is turning 32 this year and Nylander is turning 26 today.
 
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Tavares' ability to drive play is non-existent this year.

Hopefully, we see the 11M JT at some point in these playoffs.
 
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This year - absolutely. And I wouldn't doubt if it stays that way going forward. It's going to be f***ing painful if the cost of keeping Tavares is moving Nylander.
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Yes, he is. Tavares is not worth the cap hit.
 
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JT has been a lot more consistent than Nylander this year. Nylander has had higher highs and lower lows. His good moments are also a lot more noticeable, whereas Tavares does a lot of things that are simple and quiet that are not really talked about.

If I am just looking at what each brings without considering age and contract, I would still take Tavares right now, but hopefully with a better shooting percentage than he had this year and than with the Leafs in the playoffs.

Obviously Tavares is turning 32 this year and Nylander is turning 26 today.
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We paid a guy $11 million for 76 points to allow more goals scored against him when he was on the ice than for, and got a slow guy who brings zero heart and leadership in return. 41 players scored more points than him, most for much cheaper.

He might win a faceoff though...
 
Tavares is inconsistent but he honestly is not as bad as people make him out to be. Nylander has a higher ceiling but even Nylander hasn't been consistent his entire career.
 
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At present, Willie is a much better player than JT. It is true that Willie got really highs and really lows but where is JT? JT has been consistently okay this past season. I know JT wins faceoffs better defense....but he is also getting paid 11mil/yr, he needs to produce.
Hopefully, JT produces this playoffs, heck as long as he is not getting scored on by the other team and chip in a goal here and there, thats all I am asking for.
 
Although it was close, I'd have to admit that Nylander did have the better season. That suggestion shouldn't be all that surprising though considering Nylander is about a handful of years younger than Tavares. The difference in AAV is generally what makes the comparison stand out as much as it might. Even that notion shouldn't be totally unexpected since Tavares was signed as a UFA.
 
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Tavares is bringing the fire these playoff, you watch. This man captained Canada at the juniors. He knows how to win. If he doesn't, then we should be looking to offload him to Arizona for a few firsts with some retention, maybe.
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Winning in juniors is not the same thing. And sure he was on the fourth line that got a Canada gold but in the NHL, as captain, his teams have done very little winning (6 playoff appearances, 1 series win).

And for the thousandth time, Tavares is not waiving. Not for Arizona or any other team. The only plausible scenario he is moved is as a rental in the final year of his contract and the Leafs are clearly not headed to the playoffs.
 
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Oh Yes, by a fair margin as well. Willy Nylander is a beast! He steps up in the playoffs too!
 
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