Is MacKinnon a HHOF lock?

[Hockeyholic]

Calder
Cup
3x Hart Finalist
1x Hart winner
Ted Lindsay
1st team AS-twice
2nd team AS-twice
4 Nations MVP
1.16 ppg regular season player
1.26 ppg postseason player
Memorial cup
Lady byng
Top 5 player for several years

The eye test, stats/honors, and general feeling say he is.

What do you think?

 

[jitterbug]

ya

 

[TrKB PAM]

MacKinnon is one of the best players of all time, and far above the threshold of making Hall of Fame.

 

[LeonDraisaitl]

He was long before “now”

 

[Hockeyholic]

MacKinnon is one of the best players of all time, and far above the threshold of making Hall of Fame.

He might not even be top five in his own organization. Sakic, Roy, Forsberg and Makar. Let's not forget Quebec with Goulet either.

Best player of all time is a high bar to reach.

 

[LPHabsFan]

My initial thought was no, he needs more time, but then I looked at his stats.

In general, the cutoff has kind of been 1000 points and he's already hit that (which is what I was surprised at). So based on that, when you include everything else, yeah, he's a lock for the HOF.

 

[Oneiro]

Yeah. MacKinnon has been a top 5 forward for the greater part of seven years now with more to go. Everyone who does that is a Hall of Famer.

One of the best players of all time? Hah, no.

 

[JaegerDice]

The Hart and Lindsay win cemented it if there was any doubt.

 

[Hockeyholic]

My initial thought was no, he needs more time, but then I looked at his stats.

In general, the cutoff has kind of been 1000 points and he's already hit that (which is what I was surprised at). So based on that, when you include everything else, yeah, he's a lock for the HOF.

OT kinda. I always preferred peak over longevity.

For instance, MacKinnon is a much better player than Sundin ever was. If Sundin was your best player, I'm not sure that's a legit cup contender.

Andreychuk played forever and his stats look better than he ever really was.

 

[TrKB PAM]

He might not even be top five in his own organization. Sakic, Roy, Forsberg and Makar. Let's not forget Quebec with Goulet either.

Best player of all time is a high bar to reach.

Five time Hart finalist, seven time top-10 in points and has probably been the most popular choice for the 2nd best player in the league for a span of ~7-8 years. Always ups his game in the playoffs. His prime is already one of the best of all time.

 

[hamzarocks]

He's top 25 all time

 

[LPHabsFan]

OT kinda. I always preferred peak over longevity.

For instance, MacKinnon is a much better player than Sundin ever was. If Sundin was your best player, I'm not sure that's a legit cup contender.

Andreychuk played forever and his stats look better than he ever really was.

I mean if we're doing the direct comparison, assuming a straight PPG meaning no more than 82 points (unlikely), Mack will pass Sundin in a little over 4 years. That would also mean Mack would do it in I'm guessing 150 less games played.

Having said that, to play devils advocate, this is when you start getting into sample size. What's the minimum number of GP or years to bridge the cap between peak vs longevity.

 

[Killer Orca]

Um, Corey Perry is going in, according to some in another thread, so yeah, pretty sure Mack is a lock already.

 

[GlitchMarner]

Yes, obviously he's a lock. What's the point of this thread?

 

[Kaner9]

lol wut? massive lock even if he retired tomorrow.

 

[DFC]

Lol he's in if he goes back in time to retire.

 

[Felidae]

He's way past lock for HHOF. At this point the discussion should be whether he'll become the best colorado avalanche of all time. even with all their great players, he has a real chance to take that title.

 

[tabness]

Ideally they make a zoomer Hall of Fame for guys like MacKinnon, good player in a soft era

 

[Fatass]

Calder
Cup
3x Hart Finalist
1x Hart winner
Ted Lindsay
1st team AS-twice
2nd team AS-twice
4 Nations MVP
1.16 ppg regular season player
1.26 ppg postseason player
Memorial cup
Lady byng
Top 5 player for several years

The eye test, stats/honors, and general feeling say he is.

What do you think?

Clearly yes.

 

[GlitchMarner]

A better question might be...

What's more lock-worthy: MacKinnon (for the HHOF) or this thread?

 

[MCB]

Take away half of his accomplishments/awards and the answer is still yes.

 

[Foppberg]

No shit sherlock

 

[a mangy Meowth]

Insulting thread

 

[Michael Farkas]

Can't get enough of that hockeyhol it seems...

 

[featherhawk]

absolutely, if he retired today he is a hall of famer but he has many years left in him.