I've covered the Big Boy Decade extensively. I am the #1 Matt Rempe Fan. It's early - real early - but is Ivan Fedotov too big to be an NHL goalie? He's probably close to 7' tall with skates on. The early returns on his NHL career have been awful. It took 6'7 goalie Ben Bishop a couple years to find his footing in the big league- so maybe Ivan needs to grow into his skates.
Is Ivan Fedotov Simply Too Big for the NHL Bbd Discussion
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Apart from 1 outlier year, he’s been a painfully average KHL goalie his entire career.
I reckon talent (or a lack thereof) and not size is why he struggles at NHL level.
I reckon talent (or a lack thereof) and not size is why he struggles at NHL level.
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Just not very good, if anything size may be the only reason he even got a shot.
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D Wakaluk
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Watched (the?) two games he played this year. Could not track the puck at all
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Hope you covered the BBD better than you did your fantasy hockey dues, you deadbeat.
Compared to Sorokin, who played for the same KHL team, Fedotov's KHL stats were pretty bad.
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Sorokin is noted at 1.91m
Fedotov is 2.02m
You're comparing apples to oranges in this Big Boy Discussion (BBD)
His agent needs a raise...how a 27-year-old goalie with no NHL experience and who isn't even that highly regarded in his domestic league got a one-way, 2-year deal at $3.275 million annually is one of the more bizarre contracts from the summer.
Especially when the same organization gave a younger, better goalie who has already done well in stretches in the NHL a 2-year deal at less than $3 million per year at basically the same exact time.
If Fedotov was unattached to an NHL team, it's not like there would have been some bidding war for him. So, it's really confounding that he got over $6.5 million in contract without having stepped onto an NHL rink. Is there some sort of financial commitment baked into it from the previous struggles to bring him over?
Especially when the same organization gave a younger, better goalie who has already done well in stretches in the NHL a 2-year deal at less than $3 million per year at basically the same exact time.
If Fedotov was unattached to an NHL team, it's not like there would have been some bidding war for him. So, it's really confounding that he got over $6.5 million in contract without having stepped onto an NHL rink. Is there some sort of financial commitment baked into it from the previous struggles to bring him over?
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No, he’s simply too bad. Anyone who has followed his career previously in the KHL or can read an EP page knew this.
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It’s especially weird because he looked noticeably not good enough in like his 3rd game, against the Sabres. I think there was some beginner luck, but by that matchup his team was scared to give up any chances, I remember him getting completely turned around so he’s facing the guy behind the net as it pops in front- losing his goal stick, pushing off to the wrong post- like, if I notice bad goaltending off of one period it cant be turned into an nhl career. Not like an off period or anything, I mean any amateur watching would notice the difference between that guy and a fringe starter with one period of watching.
Dunno what this BBD thing is, don’t wanna know OP’s internet history is.
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Those weren't particularly strong KHL numbers and the Flyers aren't a particularly strong NHL team but maybe?
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I mean he was never even one of the top 10 goalies in the KHL at any point. Good chance he's just mediocre if not bad by NHL standards. Size be damned.
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So essentially goalies with elite numbers in the KHL turn out to be top 5 goalies in the NHL or ECHL emergency backups
There is no in between
There is no in between
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He had stepped onto an NHL rink. Twice*. And gotten lit up.
There's some speculation that it was, more or less, money laundering. Since the Flyers couldn't buy Michkov's KHL deal out directly, they gave Fedotov an outsized contract so their shared Russian agent got a large enough cut to pay off SKA and get Matvei over sooner.
*thrice, maybe?
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Maybe?
From what I've seen, that size leads to some rather large gaps to shoot at and he doesn't seem to have the reaction speed/vision to make up for it. He tries to abuse the height advantage for tracking, but it only seems to put him out of position more often that not.
Another significant issue is that he has the tendency to sit far back in the net and hasn't visibly challenged shooters.
From what I've seen, that size leads to some rather large gaps to shoot at and he doesn't seem to have the reaction speed/vision to make up for it. He tries to abuse the height advantage for tracking, but it only seems to put him out of position more often that not.
Another significant issue is that he has the tendency to sit far back in the net and hasn't visibly challenged shooters.
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Smallest 6'7 goalie I've ever seen. Somehow doesn't manage to look big in net. When trying to track the pack through traffic he stands up straight and narrow to try and look over everyone's heads. Plays a weird unconventional style where he always looks uncontrolled.
Stays far back in the crease and doesn't challenge shooters. Which at first I thought was bad until Boucher mentioned that goalies actually give themselves an extra few milliseconds to respond to a shot by being far back without (hypothetically) sacrificing their physical ability to cover that space when they are as big as Fedotov.
I agree with the other guy here who guessed that paying Fedotov is somehow related to the Flyers being able to bring Michkov over early. No concrete evidence of that yet but seems plausible. I think of Fedotov as the Michkov tax.
Stays far back in the crease and doesn't challenge shooters. Which at first I thought was bad until Boucher mentioned that goalies actually give themselves an extra few milliseconds to respond to a shot by being far back without (hypothetically) sacrificing their physical ability to cover that space when they are as big as Fedotov.
I agree with the other guy here who guessed that paying Fedotov is somehow related to the Flyers being able to bring Michkov over early. No concrete evidence of that yet but seems plausible. I think of Fedotov as the Michkov tax.
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