Is it really Randy Carlyle's fault?

[WarriorofTime]

Some Leaf fans are ready to scapegoat Carlyle. The same way they did Ron Wilson before him and the same way they did Paul Maurice before him. All seem like ok coaches to me, not completely over their head in the NHL. At some point when do you gotta say it's not the coach but the roster?

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[Classicnamesup]

Wasn't it like 2 weeks ago the team was on their way to the SCF?

 

[Semantics]

Yes.

 

[BonMorrison]

Yes.

 

[MapleLeafs9]

Yes.

Yes.

Yes. He has no system and his team has the tenacity of a paper bag.

So you guys believe if we fired Carlyle we'd all of a sudden be a good advanced stats team, out-shoot opponents constantly and win more?

You really don't think that maybe the Leafs just aren't that good outside of Kessel, JvR and Kadri?

 

[Judas Tavares]

I'm willing to say if Maurice had the talent the Leafs have now, they would be a playoff team easily. All he had was an aging Sundin and Kaberle and a bunch of JFJ constucted trash. He also never had a goalie.

 

[WarriorofTime]

I'm willing to say if Maurice had the talent the Leafs have now, they would be a playoff team easily. All he had was an aging Sundin and Kaberle and a bunch of JFJ constucted trash. He also never had a goalie.

Not so sure the team is better now. Different sure, but better?

 

[DaDucks*]

Leafs are in a playoff position. What's the problem?

 

[Super Cake]

Leafs are in a playoff position. What's the problem?

Just because they are in a playoff position does not mean that their are no problems with the Leafs.

 

[mark24]

The Leafs have a top ten forward group, and a bottom ten if not bottom five D corps. The problem is deeper than Carlyle

 

[Paradoc]

Yes, it really is his fault.

 

[Grant]

It's the players in my opinion.

 

[aufheben]

Is what his fault?

 

[Grant]

Is what his fault?

Losing, poor defensive play, inconsistency, etc.

 

[deckercky]

Carlyle has always had terrible possession stats aside from when he had Pronger and Niedermayer.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Leafs are in a playoff position. What's the problem?

Poor possession team, underlying defensive issues.

 

[Blufreezy]

I'm not generally a fan of blaming the coach but I have no doubt a different coach could do wonders for this team.

Not that the roster is perfect by any means, but more can be achieved from it.

 

[DaDucks*]

Just because they are in a playoff position does not mean that their are no problems with the Leafs.

haven't they made the playoffs 1 time in the last 10 years? They should be excited right now, no?

 

[Falcons93]

The Leafs are currently in a playoff position halfway through the season and have clearly been a top 8 team in the East this season. I don't get it?

 

[Mad Dog Tannen]

I used to hate blaming the coach, but as the season goes on I think it's both coach and players.

Begrudgingly, I'm starting to come around to the idea that Carlyle won't find success in Toronto. I still feel he's a good coach, just not right for this group.

So yes, it's carlyles fault, plus the core players. Would have been great to see dion or Kessel benched, they both roam soooo much.

Bring dale hunter in.

 

[Tim Vezina Thomas]

I'm shocked the Leafs have hit a bad stretch. Typically poor defensive teams arent very consistent, and this is the case here.

 

[JMcLeaf]

I believe he's part of the problem. Management and the players deserve some of the blame as well.

 

[TootooTrain]

Asking other teams about a coaching issue to which the majority are making uneducated guesses is ripe for success.

 

[Rayzorexe]

The Leafs are currently in a playoff position halfway through the season and have clearly been a top 8 team in the East this season. I don't get it?

Well for one thing, almost all their losses this year and including some of their wins, the Leafs played like they were a lottery team. If it wasn't for Bernier and Reimer on most nights, this team would probably be picking in the top 5.

 

[zeke]

this is the fifth year in a row randy's team has been a bottom five possession team. twice it was anaheim, thrice toronto.

neither team was bottom five before or after randy.

amazingly, in 11-12, he managed to coach two different teams to bottom five shot differentials, while in that same year both teams had average shot differentials without him.