Is Barkov overrated?

[Toby91ca]

He's a top 5 player in the game. The vast majority of general fans don't recognize this. Hence why the players constantly vote him underrated, yet the fans fail to understand why, when they already view him as a good "top 10 C".

See, this is my point....he's not a top 5 player....if you think so, you are overrating him.

I guess the best way to have the discussions around whether a player is overrated or underrated is to start with what the consensus rating is first because that is probably all over the map as well.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

every team in the NHL would LOVE to have Barkov he's Amazing and no way is overrated. if he's not a top 10 C then he's not far off

 

[DingDongCharlie]

See, this is my point....he's not a top 5 player....if you think so, you are overrating him.

I guess the best way to have the discussions around whether a player is overrated or underrated is to start with what the consensus rating is first because that is probably all over the map as well.

That poster is going to make me back pedal my entire argument. Haha

 

[BB88]

every team in the NHL would LOVE to have Barkov he's Amazing and no way is overrated. if he's not a top 10 C then he's not far off

How could he not be a top10C?

In his offensive down year he was still clearly +ppg.

He’s won selke, 96 point career high, 88 points in 67 games last year.
An absolute monster in this playoff run

 

[Arthur Morgan]

How could he not be a top10C?

In his offensive down year he was still clearly +ppg.

He’s won selke, 96 point career high, 88 points in 67 games last year.
An absolute monster in this playoff run

I never said he wasn't top 10. more so saying to those who dont think he is.
everyone has their own rankings though.

 

[jonlin]

Barkov is comfortable a Top10 center. Borderline Top5. He might lose a bit on the offensive side to some, but he is very good 200ft player which makes up a bit on the points difference. Work-ethic, backchecking, takeaways, FO:s etc is his game. One of the harder C:s to play against.

 

[Despote]

He's a top 5 player in the game. The vast majority of general fans don't recognize this. Hence why the players constantly vote him underrated, yet the fans fail to understand why, when they already view him as a good "top 10 C".

Barkov finished 6th in a mid-season ESPN poll where they asked NHL players, executives and coaches who are the best centers in the league.

McDavid, then who? Players, coaches, execs vote for NHL's top centers

The Oilers captain is a clear-cut No. 1 -- and then the debates begin. Here are the top 10 pivots in the league right now.

www.espn.com

 

[Plural]

This is mood swings, I know. But right now I think I would rather have Barkov on my team than Matthews.

 

[Cats2TheCup]

See, this is my point....he's not a top 5 player....if you think so, you are overrating him.

I guess the best way to have the discussions around whether a player is overrated or underrated is to start with what the consensus rating is first because that is probably all over the map as well.

Name five players you’d rank above Barkov.

 

[TLEH]

Name five players you’d rank above Barkov.

Kucherov, McDavid, Makar, MacKinnon. That is probably it for me. In terms of all around impact towards winning games. I think Matthews and Barkov are in a similar spot, I lean Barkov and put Matthews at 6.

 

[Plural]

This is mood swings, I know. But right now I think I would rather have Barkov on my team than Matthews.

I'll quote myself from year back....

 

[Cats2TheCup]

He's a top 5 player in the game. The vast majority of general fans don't recognize this. Hence why the players constantly vote him underrated, yet the fans fail to understand why, when they already view him as a good "top 10 C".

bullseye

 

[the_fan]

21 points in 20 games while shutting down McDavid in the finals is not doing much in the playoffs?

 

[Craft Beer Lover]

21 points in 20 games while shutting down McDavid in the finals is not doing much in the playoffs?

Not just McDavid. He has also shutdown Kucherov, Pasternak, and Panarin in the previous rounds as well.

 

[sensfan4lifee]

Name five players you’d rank above Barkov.

Kucherov, Mackinnon, McDavid , Makar, Mathews, Drai,

 

[The Crypto Guy]

10000%. Look how many people think he’s a top 3 center in the other thread (and some think he’s the #1 lmao). Easily one of the most overrated players in the league, which is crazy because he was one of the most underrated players 1-2 years ago. Fans eat up everything ESPN tells them, scary.

 

[DitchMarner]

10000%. Look how many people think he’s a top 3 center in the other thread (and some think he’s the #1 lmao). Easily one of the most overrated players in the league, which is crazy because he was one of the most underrated players 1-2 years ago. Fans eat up everything ESPN tells them, scary.

I think a lot of fans have a hard time separating team success from individual performance.

He's a great player and now he's getting a lot of attention and recognition because he plays on a formidable team that's been prominent recently (two SCF appearances in a row).

He was a damn good player three years ago as well, but no one cared/talked about FLA back then. He was kind of lost in the shuffle.

Overall, I'm not convinced he's overrated, but his rise up the rankings in people's minds seems to correlate strongly with his team's ascension. I do think he's raised his level of play in the playoffs somewhat, but that's not the main reason FLA has gone from being perennially irrelevant to being a probable Stanley Cup winner.

 

[KevinRedkey]

Right now? Yes
Any other time in his career? No

 

[CokenoPepsi]

I think we all know he'd be rated much higher if he were Canadian and didn't play in Florida

 

[Thallis]

10000%. Look how many people think he’s a top 3 center in the other thread (and some think he’s the #1 lmao). Easily one of the most overrated players in the league, which is crazy because he was one of the most underrated players 1-2 years ago. Fans eat up everything ESPN tells them, scary.

What some ding dongs on a message board say doesn't make someone over/underrated. You have to compare to a general consensus, otherwise you can find any whacko to point to

 

[eviohh26]

I think we all know he'd be rated much higher if he were Canadian and didn't play in Florida

This narrative is getting so old.

 

[CokenoPepsi]

This narrative is getting so old.

It true, maybe a little less as much since TSN lost the rights but oh it is true

 

[eviohh26]

It true, maybe a little less as much since TSN lost the rights but oh it is true

Yea that's why everyone said Kane and Datsyuk were bums....

 

[tarheelhockey]

21 points in 20 games while shutting down McDavid in the finals is not doing much in the playoffs?

The thread was started over a year ago, and recently bumped by someone who feels the need to do victory laps over old arguments.

 

[the_fan]

The thread was started over a year ago, and recently bumped by someone who feels the need to do victory laps over old arguments.

Yeah I saw that after my post. The thread is from May 2023