Immigrating to Canada

Rink Rage

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Hi, so I just got selected into the ISS Mentorship program, and I was wondering if that would be valid if I just use that. Cause as far as I understand, you need a skill, or to be apart of a school or something like that.... Anyway if I'm right, I was wondering what the procedures would be for moving.
 

heatnikki

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I'm in the same boat! I've already found nice condo in the heart of Mississauga. Good luck man! I found info about a new condo development by Daniels & Oxford Properties here https://squareonedistrictcondos.info/ and it seems to be a very good investment for the future. Of course I'll consult with speialist first to reduce the risks but this location is just perfect.
 
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Lilou

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Immigrate here if you want a lower salary, expensive housing, high taxes, and want to pay more for food and merchandise. I've been looking at IT opportunities in texas. Sorry for hijacking but please reconsider. You're probably better off in the US.
 

Maplebeasts

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Oct 26, 2014
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Immigrate here if you want a lower salary, expensive housing, high taxes, and want to pay more for food and merchandise. I've been looking at IT opportunities in texas. Sorry for hijacking but please reconsider. You're probably better off in the US.
He is almost 100% not. The political environment in the states is a toxic mess and you get a whole lot more civil unrest to boot. Not even going not how expensive/ a pain in the ass health insurance is there.
 
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SeaOfBlue

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Immigrate here if you want a lower salary, expensive housing, high taxes, and want to pay more for food and merchandise. I've been looking at IT opportunities in texas. Sorry for hijacking but please reconsider. You're probably better off in the US.

The US is nice if you make a lot of money or have great benefits from your job. Also helps if you have some sort of privilege or advantages.

If you don't, the system typically screws you over and boosts up those who are already pretty well off. If you are in IT, you are probably doing quite well so it may make sense for you, assuming you can even get a job... America has really cracked down on foreign workers, especially when it comes to high skill professions like IT, if they feel like an American can do the job. I assume you are looking in like Dallas or Austin, because that is the only place in Texas that I know of that has any kind of worthwhile IT. Some other places in the South and Midwest (excluding Chicago) have the odd thing here or there, but I usually assume people go California (not necessarily just Silicon Valley or San Fran; occasionally LA as well) or Seattle if they want to go any further West/South of Chicago (lots of Finance companies looking for IT there) or NYC (Finance as well, but also a number of other things).

I find their tax system is "interesting" depending on which state you are in. Their federal tax is relatively reasonable (at least compared to Canada) but there are some no state income tax places that can really let you make a lot of money. Really depends on your career though, as it does not make sense to go from Canada to the US unless you are fulfilling a high demand/low supply job where you can make great money.

For me personally, I am looking at working remotely for a company based in the US and may consider moving down there on a more permanent basis if the pay and opportunity is right, but Toronto is extremely competitive. They are getting a lot of tech and IT in the near future (Microsoft, Google, Amazon is already there but is likely going to expand to go from mostly marketing to include more IT positions, etc.) and a lot of other industries are moving there to tap into Canadian talent. UofT is a top 20-25 university in the world with an Engineering/CS Department that rivals many top American universities. Waterloo is already a Silicon Valley/Seattle pipeline. There are also a number of reputable business programs around the GTA/Southern Ontario (UofT, York, Queens, Western, etc.) and Toronto is both close to the US and has a larger population, so if an American company wants to set up shop in Canada, Toronto/Mississauga is typically where they put themselves... And they know that they have to pay American rates if they want to poach the high end talent. Vancouver and Montreal is also relatively popular depending on the industry as well, but Toronto seems to have a lot more growth than either right now.

As for the expensive housing/living, it depends where you work. If you live in Toronto/GTA, it can be pretty expensive, but you also can get paid decently well to make up for it. I would not move to Toronto/GTA unless it is the only place you can get a job or if you have a great job that pays you well. It is also like that in certain places in the US though too (California, New York which operates similar to Toronto except on a significantly larger scale, etc.).
 

SeaOfBlue

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He is almost 100% not. The political environment in the states is a toxic mess and you get a whole lot more civil unrest to boot. Not even going not how expensive/ a pain in the ass health insurance is there.

Some people may not care about the politics or civil unrest. Depends on what demographic you are and where you go. If you are in a minority, then there is still a lot of tension in many places in the US if you are not willing to play by certain rules that may not appeal to you. However, that is no different in Canada, just everything in Canada is on a smaller scale since we have like 1/10th of the population. Keep in mind that many of those rules do not appeal to many in the majority either.

The thing about the US is that it is drastically different depending on where you live because States have so much autonomy. If you don't like Trump and want something relatively similar to Canada, stick to the Democratic states (West Coast, Illinois, or North East) and they are probably not much different. There are government healthcare programs, abortion rights, etc. but the fight the Democrats are making is to try and make it federal policy rather than just on the state level, so that there can be more federal support and it is easier to have certain policies go through. That is the main difference.

My main qualm about the US, and really Canada to an extent too, are the ways people abuse wealth, power, and influence far too often, and that comes down to the masses giving that power to those people. With social media, there are more and more people getting it (in many cases for ridiculous reasons) and many of them do not handle it responsibly. Social media can be a powerful tool for making meaningful change, but much of it is just used to spread around personal opinions and rhetoric to further a personal, selfish agenda and get more money/fame, even when they try to mask it with altruism. I think the thing that people need to realize is not that this needs to be fixed on a political level, with socialism or something like that, but rather that people need to think and reassess their values on a societal level. People choose for this to happen, even though they say they are actively against it. So simply, just a ton of ignorance and personal bias that leads to double-standards, excuses, and an endless flawed cycle where things just continue to get worse.
 

ItsFineImFine

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Aug 11, 2019
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I'm in IT fairly early in my career in Ontario. I really don't wanna move to the US, I wanna live here but I'm getting pressured by my parents and I think it will be a long and tough road here to crack $70 or $80K while in the US, I can probably get to that salary within a couple years.

I wanna stay here though but the job market in even Toronto is meh, I'm fortunate I found something and there are a lot of positions but the amount of competition for them seems insane compared to the US .
 

HurricaneFanatic

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I moved to Canada 15 years ago for a Job. Not sure if it has changed much, but i came with a simple work visa, then after 5 years I got my Permanent Residence. It was quite the procedure the PR, but the work visa was a piece of cake. Assuming that would be you for a bit.
 

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