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If We Win Draft Lottery: Lafreniere or Byfield?

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Who do you take 1st Overall?

  • Alexis Lafreniere

  • Quinton Byfield

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So how does Lafreniere project? Are we talking Ovechkin level or more like Laine level? (Playing styles aside)
 
frozenrubber said:
Quick look-back at the last decade of 1st round drafts (no revisionist re-rankings).

2010: Taylor Hall or Erik Gudbranson & Nino Niederreiter
2011: Ryan Nugent-Hopkins or Jonathan Huberdeau & Ryan Strome
2012: Nail Yakupov or Alex Galchenyuk & Morgan Reilly
2013: Nathan MacKinnon or Jonathan Drouin & Elias Lindholm
2014: Aaron Ekblad or Leon Draisaitl & Michael Dal Colle
2015: Connor MacDavid or Dylan Strome & Noah Hanifan
2016: Auston Matthews or Pierre-Luc Dubois & Olli Juolevi
2017: Nico Hischier or Miro Heiskanen & Elias Pettersson
2018: Rasmus Dahlin or Jesperi Koniemi & Barrett Hayton
2019: Jack Hughes or Kirby Dach & Alex Turcotte
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Yes to 2011, 2012, 2014 & 2017.
2019 TBD
 
Kupo said:
Rangers: Win the 1st overall for the first time in team history!

Also Rangers: Pass on the best player in the draft.

No thanks. You draft Lafreniere without even thinking about it. And no, picks 3+5 don’t cut it for me.

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In a game of FHM, I ended up with Laf, Byfeld, Stuzle and Raymond. Loved my forward code with Kakko, Hughes and Svech. The end of those ELCs created a cap nightmare though. :laugh:
 
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Sayba said:
Yes to 2011, 2012, 2014 & 2017.
2019 TBD
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those years most ppl would say at the time that the 1st overall pick that year was not a slam dunk tho. laf clearly is this year. ekblad was probably the most sure fire 1st overall, but the 2014 class wasnt highly rated at the top. draisatl far and away outpaced his projections.
 
If we aren’t sold on adding Lafreniere because we’d rather have a center, or a 1D, I’d rather trade the #1 overall for that piece than draft a guy who may be able to be that piece in 1-3 years.

If we won the lottery and weren’t sold on adding a winger, trade #1 overall (plus if you have to, depending on what’s coming back) for an established player. Don’t draft something other than the consensus BPA because we think it fills a need better. That would be too Rangers.
 
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ecemleafs said:
those years most ppl would say at the time that the 1st overall pick that year was not a slam dunk tho. laf clearly is this year. ekblad was probably the most sure fire 1st overall, but the 2014 class wasnt highly rated at the top. draisatl far and away outpaced his projections.
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I was purely going off what they have done, not their projections at the time.
 
frozenrubber said:
Quick look-back at the last decade of 1st round drafts (no revisionist re-rankings).

2010: Taylor Hall or Erik Gudbranson & Nino Niederreiter
2011: Ryan Nugent-Hopkins or Jonathan Huberdeau & Ryan Strome
2012: Nail Yakupov or Alex Galchenyuk & Morgan Reilly
2013: Nathan MacKinnon or Jonathan Drouin & Elias Lindholm
2014: Aaron Ekblad or Leon Draisaitl & Michael Dal Colle
2015: Connor MacDavid or Dylan Strome & Noah Hanifan
2016: Auston Matthews or Pierre-Luc Dubois & Olli Juolevi
2017: Nico Hischier or Miro Heiskanen & Elias Pettersson
2018: Rasmus Dahlin or Jesperi Kotkaniemi & Barrett Hayton
2019: Jack Hughes or Kirby Dach & Alex Turcotte
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Man that one really sticks out.
 
frozenrubber said:
Quick look-back at the last decade of 1st round drafts (no revisionist re-rankings).

2010: Taylor Hall or Erik Gudbranson & Nino Niederreiter
2011: Ryan Nugent-Hopkins or Jonathan Huberdeau & Ryan Strome
2012: Nail Yakupov or Alex Galchenyuk & Morgan Reilly
2013: Nathan MacKinnon or Jonathan Drouin & Elias Lindholm
2014: Aaron Ekblad or Leon Draisaitl & Michael Dal Colle
2015: Connor MacDavid or Dylan Strome & Noah Hanifan
2016: Auston Matthews or Pierre-Luc Dubois & Olli Juolevi
2017: Nico Hischier or Miro Heiskanen & Elias Pettersson
2018: Rasmus Dahlin or Jesperi Kotkaniemi & Barrett Hayton
2019: Jack Hughes or Kirby Dach & Alex Turcotte
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I do the trade in '11, '12, '14, '17, and maybe '19. Not bad.
 
CasusBelli said:
So how does Lafreniere project? Are we talking Ovechkin level or more like Laine level? (Playing styles aside)
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In a nutshell: Best junior player coming out of the Q since Crosby (that includes the other 1OA pick MacKinnon). Only player to win CHL player of the year twice in a row also since Crosby.

Extremely high hockey sense, no visible weakness, highly competitive, can play a heavy game. Franchise player with a very high floor. Future team captain.
 
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Sayba said:
I was purely going off what they have done, not their projections at the time.
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yeah but their projections and what they have done have been pretty accurate. 3 and 5 is good in a down year for 1 overall. 1 overall is much better if 1st overall is a projected superstar with little downside.
 
Always go BPA which is Lafreniefe. Also, with the clear gap between #1 and the rest any talk of trading down is nonsense.

IF we win the lottery and trade Lafreniefe for youth in a position of need (we shouldn’t do this anyway) we should only move him for an outstanding young player that’s further along in development and more of a safe bet. Not other top 5 or 10 draft picks.
 
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The Sweetness said:
Always go BPA which is Lafreniefe. Also, with the clear gap between #1 and the rest any talk of trading down is nonsense.

IF we win the lottery and trade Lafreniefe for youth in a position of need (we shouldn’t do this anyway) we should only move him for an outstanding young player that’s further along in development and more of a safe bet. Not other top 5 or 10 draft picks.
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Kubalik and Dach kinda thing? Or is this guy that much of a slam dunk 90+ player?
 
The Sweetness said:
Always go BPA which is Lafreniefe. Also, with the clear gap between #1 and the rest any talk of trading down is nonsense.

IF we win the lottery and trade Lafreniefe for youth in a position of need (we shouldn’t do this anyway) we should only move him for an outstanding young player that’s further along in development and more of a safe bet. Not other top 5 or 10 draft picks.
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Couldn't agree more.
 
Sens fan coming in peace. Larry Brooks think if Rangers win the lottery. Rangers interested by Byfield. The 3 and 5 are you interested for the first
 
Crosside said:
Sens fan coming in peace. Larry Brooks think if Rangers win the lottery. Rangers interested by Byfield. The 3 and 5 are you interested for the first
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I would not be, but it seems like a few Ranger fans would be, so not crazy I guess?
 
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Balthazar said:
In a nutshell: Best junior player coming out of the Q since Crosby (that includes the other 1OA pick MacKinnon). Only player to win CHL player of the year twice in a row also since Crosby.

Extremely high hockey sense, no visible weakness, highly competitive, can play a heavy game. Franchise player with a very high floor. Future team captain.
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Please let us win the lottery. Would be amazing for us.
 
What would be worse? Not winning the lottery and sitting here waiting for a new hockey season to some together, or winning the lottery and watching COVID worsen and hockey completely canceled for the foreseeable future?
 
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