If it's just Gio and Blackwell are you satisfied?

[rocketman588]

I stg if Sweet Lou nixed a deal and dunked on the opposing gm in public because they leaked a rumour every one of the miserable schmucks around here would be gobbling his knob over it.
Kyle does it and suddenly he’s rattled, unprofessional and losing his room

Did Lou nix a deal for the previous vezina winner at 50% retained then whine because his current trash goalies couldn't handle getting a replacement?

 

[egd27]

He didn't give up anything of significance. Gio should help, (unless he goes the Foligno, Nolan, Gilmour route)

 

[Nylanderthal]

Did Lou nix a deal for the previous vezina winner at 50% retained then whine because his current trash goalies couldn't handle getting a replacement?

Who said it had anything to do with hurting anyones feelings? In fact one of the goalies was going the other way. MAF has been mostly cheeks this season posting a nearly 3gaa. Is that worth a first? MAF was given away by pitts and Vegas for not getting it done in those markets you think he’d of succeeded here? Who’s to even know MAF would’ve waived? Sounds like he wasn’t very interested in coming to Canada and prioritized staying close to where his family is located, or going to. Familiar destination

 

[seanlinden]

Both Petr and Jack know they haven't been good enough. And when you aren't good enough the GM is going to go look for someone who is. If Jack was playing like he was in the first half (All Star Level) and they went looking then yes I could understand it bothering him. But he's not and he hasn't in a long time, and pro sports are ruthless..... deal with it.

Their agents should also be explaining to them that Dubas will have called every single GM in the NHL and inquired about every single player possibly available that have any remote interest in. That's Dubas' job.

Plus what if the main part of that deal was the other player and Chicago said "we know your somewhat interested in MAF so take him too so we can get extra pieces from you" - Remember it was Chicago that proposed the leaked trade and Toronto said no.

I am fine with Dubas staying with them because the Goalie Trade Market sucked but if the fact that a phone call was made bothers them that much then both of them really shouldn't be pro athletes.

Yet, you still have Dubas coming out and saying "we believe in Mrazek", he's got a long history, etc.

For a pro athlete, confidence is huge. For goalies, they're all a bit weird so it's even more important. I'm sure Mrazek knows he's been nowhere near good enough.

That doesn't mean the message Dubas wants to give Mrazek is "your play has been unacceptable, I'm gonna try to trade you", followed by "I couldn't trade you, prove me wrong". What Dubas, or any GM would do, is want to convey confidence in the goalie, and to "keep doing what you're doing" / trust yourself. You cannot re-invent a goalie at 30 years old.

 

[tmlms13]

Yet, you still have Dubas coming out and saying "we believe in Mrazek", he's got a long history, etc.

For a pro athlete, confidence is huge. For goalies, they're all a bit weird so it's even more important. I'm sure Mrazek knows he's been nowhere near good enough.

That doesn't mean the message Dubas wants to give Mrazek is "your play has been unacceptable, I'm gonna try to trade you", followed by "I couldn't trade you, prove me wrong". What Dubas, or any GM would do, is want to convey confidence in the goalie, and to "keep doing what you're doing" / trust yourself. You cannot re-invent a goalie at 30 years old.

Or he says "You and Jack have both had significant injuries this season. We can't risk two oft injured goalies. We want an upgrade on our 3rd goalie as much as our Top 2" Herri would have essentially doing that. Maybe that was the move.

But the trade market sucked and there is no point in wasting assets for someone who could be just as bad or hell, could be even worse.

 

[Mess]

NHL trade deadline 2022: Winners and losers, including Marc-Andre Fleury, the Rangers and Maple Leafs​

Loser: Toronto Maple Leafs' goaltending

Shilton: Yes, the Maple Leafs landed Mark Giordano to bolster the blue line. That was a priority. But Toronto did nothing to improve its lackluster goaltending situation, although it wasn't for complete lack of trying.

On Sunday, GM Kyle Dubas did sign Finnish netminder Harri Sateri -- fresh from an Olympic gold-medal win -- to a one-year deal. Per NHL rules, though, Toronto had to place Sateri on waivers in order to add him to the roster. Arizona, of course, claimed Sateri, leaving the Leafs no better off. And Dubas didn't complete any transactions to add another goaltender before the deadline.

So, Toronto is where it is. Beleaguered goalie Petr Mrazek also was placed on waivers on Sunday, which Dubas clarified was for cap-related purposes, and Mrazek cleared, so he's still around. That doesn't help the Leafs much, though. Mrazek has allowed four or more goals in each of his past four starts (1-2-1), and he was recently usurped by rookie Erik Kallgren. It appears Kallgren (who is 2-1-1 with a .930 SV%) will have to continue carrying the load for now, at least until Jack Campbell is up and running.

Toronto's starter has been sidelined by a rib injury, but he returned to the ice this week. Can Campbell attain his previous form and be the top-end goalie he was early in the season? The Leafs can only cross their fingers and hope.

Link: NHL trade deadline winners and losers: Marc-Andre Fleury, the Rangers, Maple Leafs, more

 

[tmlms13]

NHL trade deadline 2022: Winners and losers, including Marc-Andre Fleury, the Rangers and Maple Leafs​

Loser: Toronto Maple Leafs' goaltending

Shilton: Yes, the Maple Leafs landed Mark Giordano to bolster the blue line. That was a priority. But Toronto did nothing to improve its lackluster goaltending situation, although it wasn't for complete lack of trying.

On Sunday, GM Kyle Dubas did sign Finnish netminder Harri Sateri -- fresh from an Olympic gold-medal win -- to a one-year deal. Per NHL rules, though, Toronto had to place Sateri on waivers in order to add him to the roster. Arizona, of course, claimed Sateri, leaving the Leafs no better off. And Dubas didn't complete any transactions to add another goaltender before the deadline.

So, Toronto is where it is. Beleaguered goalie Petr Mrazek also was placed on waivers on Sunday, which Dubas clarified was for cap-related purposes, and Mrazek cleared, so he's still around. That doesn't help the Leafs much, though. Mrazek has allowed four or more goals in each of his past four starts (1-2-1), and he was recently usurped by rookie Erik Kallgren. It appears Kallgren (who is 2-1-1 with a .930 SV%) will have to continue carrying the load for now, at least until Jack Campbell is up and running.

Toronto's starter has been sidelined by a rib injury, but he returned to the ice this week. Can Campbell attain his previous form and be the top-end goalie he was early in the season? The Leafs can only cross their fingers and hope.

Link: NHL trade deadline winners and losers: Marc-Andre Fleury, the Rangers, Maple Leafs, more

That is an ESPN article.

Hell will freeze over before I go to ESPN for quality hockey coverage.

No mention in their article of this Loser.....
Ottawa Senators: Trading AWAY a draft pick for an overpaid veteran defenseman. In what universe does that make sense.

 

[hobarth]

What did Dubie miss for this TDL, I thought he should've tried to sign E. Kane and I don't know why he didn't trade Dermott to Van. for Motte.

Bunting/Matthews/Nylander
Kane/JT/Marner
Mikheyev/Kampf/Engvall
Motte/Kerfoot/Blackwell

Spares: Spezza & Simmonds

Rielly/Bushkin
Giordano/Brody
Muzzin/Holl

Spares: Lily & Sandin

I like the looks of this team, it might be enough of a team that can outscore it's problems, goaltending, but if the forwards decided they would play defense it could go all the way.

I know Kane & Motte are the only differences from what Dubie did but Kane on the 2nd line would've been huge, he's having a significant affect on Edmonton, Motte and Blackwell on the 4th instead of the oldsters, they're both physical and fast, that's what's needed.

 

[tmlms13]

What did Dubie miss for this TDL, I thought he should've tried to sign E. Kane and I don't know why he didn't trade Dermott to Van. for Motte.

Bunting/Matthews/Nylander
Kane/JT/Marner
Mikheyev/Kampf/Engvall
Motte/Kerfoot/Blackwell

Spares: Spezza & Simmonds

Rielly/Bushkin
Giordano/Brody
Muzzin/Holl

Spares: Lily & Sandin

I like the looks of this team, it might be enough of a team that can outscore it's problems, goaltending, but if the forwards decided they would play defense it could go all the way.

I know Kane & Motte are the only differences from what Dubie did but Kane on the 2nd line would've been huge, he's having a significant affect on Edmonton, Motte and Blackwell on the 4th instead of the oldsters, they're both physical and fast, that's what's needed.

Kane wasn't going to Toronto no matter what they did or didn't pay him. It's irrelevant

 

[MarMarSab3]

The thing that doesn't get talked about too much is how great it's going to be to have another leader in the dressing room