World Cup: I'd like to see team Quebec in the next World Cup.

[al secord]

No offense, but you are perfectly displaying the ignorance that actually makes this so funny.

Those teams = UK+Ireland in Golf. Yes, or maybe not quite?

Ireland would never associate themselves with the UK. You're thinking of Northern Ireland.

 

[Cotton]

If Newfoundland wasn't forced to become part of Canada by the Brits in the early half of last century, would they at least be as good as the Latvias of the world? Are there any Newfie NHLers?

They weren't forced, they had three options (Brits, Canada or remain independent) they held a referendum and elected to join Canada in 48', officially joined in 1949.

Teddy Purcell and Colin Greening are the only two Newfie NHL'ers I know of currently playing.

 

[PensBandwagonerNo272*]

Team Quebec would be ****. Maybe Team East (Quebec+Atlantic Canada) vs Team Ontario vs Team West

 

[AngryScotsman]

They should just start a real Canada cup featuring a team for each province. And why the heck not how about each territory gets a team too.

Was kind of done before by nhlpa some years ago.

Edit - 1994 lockout. Team Ontario defeated team USA, team Québéc and team western Canada in a 4 on 4 tournament held at Copps coliseum in Hamilton, ON

 

[Ulysses31]

Also athletes who don't want to stand for the national athem could play for team TNA
alongside the leftovers esp if torts is coaching USA again

 

[rj]

No offense, but you are perfectly displaying the ignorance that actually makes this so funny.

Those teams = UK+Ireland in Golf. Yes, or maybe not quite?

No.

They weren't forced, they had three options (Brits, Canada or remain independent) they held a referendum and elected to join Canada in 48', officially joined in 1949.

Yeah, that was the same choice the Texans had in the 1800s. They were broke at the time, i.e. they didn't have much real choice in the matter - "join on our terms or your 'country' will go through a depression".

 

[Cotton]

No.



Yeah, that was the same choice the Texans had in the 1800s. They were broke at the time, i.e. they didn't have much real choice in the matter - "join on our terms or your 'country' will go through a depression".

They were less than broke, but they still had options, one of which was being independent.

 

[Paul4587]

Conglomerate teams actually do occur.

West Indies in cricket, a bit like the lesser European hockey countries in this Team Europe setup, they're all too small on their own to be any sort of competitive, so have always competed together.

I play rugby and am familiar with it more there.

-British & Irish Lions (England, Scotland, Wales, Ireland)
-Pacific Islanders (Fiji, Samoa, Tonga, Niue, Cook Islands) - since disbanded but only because World Rugby wouldn't let them tour enough to become profitable
-there've been others, such as East Africa (Kenya, Tanzania, Uganda) and Arabian Gulf, which World Rugby forced to disband about 8 years ago but was a poor misguided decision, the reason they said for it has not changed anything in the region, Arabian Gulf just became the United Arab Emirates and none of the other countries have gone anywhere developmentally

Hockey and rugby to me are "cousin" sports in that how both operate internationally is very similar.

And "Team Europe" in golf. It always amuses me when Brits don't want the International Team from the President's Cup into the Ryder Cup because "that would ruin the sanctity of the tournament", a tournament where they had to heavily increase the size of their player pool in order to stay competitive or the Ryder Cup would've faded into irrelevance.

Rugby doesn't let any of those amalgamated teams compete in their world cups though. They're touring teams only.

 

[Tuoppi]

8 team Canada cup. Seven biggest provinces by population and a team called team atlantic and the territories (not including Nova Scotia because it's in the top seven). They could have a similar tournament in every country at the same time.

 

[Hobble]

Just screw the world and US.

Have a true Canada Cup with a team of NHL players from each province.

 

[Scandale du Jour]

Do people of Quebec want to be independent?

Team Quebec would be as valid as TNA or team Europe

At times we do. At times we don't. Most recently, we don't and I honestly don't see the movement growing back. The days of "identity" nationalism are hopefully gone. With how the world is globalized now, I would be very surprised if the independantist movement gained steam anytime soon - young people don't really give a **** about Quebec being a distinct society. A Team Québec would be a bad idea because it would reignite some political stuff and the tournament would become about politics and not hockey.

As much as I would like to see how we could do, I am not interested in seeing it.

 

[Wats]

I think this would be pretty awesome. Have 10 teams with the 1st seed getting a bye to semis.

Team USA
Team Western Canada
Team Eastern Canada
Team Ontario
Team North America (consisting of North American snubs)

Team Russia
Team Sweden
Team Finland
Team Czech Republic
Team Europe (Consisting of European snubs and smaller countries)


This isn't the olympics, this is a World Cup. Thats why there is a team Europe and Team NA. Rivalry vs the 3 Candian regions will make good hockey and Canada is deep enough to easily ice 3 contenders.

 

[Mr Positive]

I like the idea since the last government here did declare them to be a separate nation within our country. At least it's a good excuse to split up the Canadian squad, and there is precedent for it. Doesn't Scotland compete in the Olympics apart from the UK?

 

[jason2020]

* It would handicap Canada who are almost too dominant to make it interesting.

* Quebec is a real place with a real identity that is different from the rest of Canada and would have a natural base of supporters.

* Unlike U-23 it wouldn't weaken team USA, a country that will need all their best players in order to compete.

* If the format is changed so that all teams get at least one home game in the tournament, then there's one more team playing at home in North America.

* England, Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales having their own teams in soccer sets a precedent that it can work just fine to have your own team even if you don't have political independence.

* Quebec was close the voting for independence and might very well actually become independent one day, so the NHL would be ahead of the curve.

* Gary Bettman would maybe become slightly less hated in Quebec City.

One thing people need to keep in mind is some of the best French sounding names are not from Quebec many are from the east coast and many from Eastern Ontario.

 

[LeafFever]

* It would handicap Canada who are almost too dominant to make it interesting.

* Quebec is a real place with a real identity that is different from the rest of Canada and would have a natural base of supporters.

* Unlike U-23 it wouldn't weaken team USA, a country that will need all their best players in order to compete.

* If the format is changed so that all teams get at least one home game in the tournament, then there's one more team playing at home in North America.

* England, Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales having their own teams in soccer sets a precedent that it can work just fine to have your own team even if you don't have political independence.

* Quebec was close the voting for independence and might very well actually become independent one day, so the NHL would be ahead of the curve.

* Gary Bettman would maybe become slightly less hated in Quebec City.

That will never happen. That fantasy is over.

 

[BCShark]

maybe canada east vs canada west

 

[Megaterio Llamas]

They would be the worst team in the tournament under this years format. Not very interesting.

 

[source]

I think this would be pretty awesome. Have 10 teams with the 1st seed getting a bye to semis.

Team USA
Team Western Canada
Team Eastern Canada
Team Ontario
Team North America (consisting of North American snubs)

Team Russia
Team Sweden
Team Finland
Team Czech Republic
Team Europe (Consisting of European snubs and smaller countries)


This isn't the olympics, this is a World Cup. Thats why there is a team Europe and Team NA. Rivalry vs the 3 Candian regions will make good hockey and Canada is deep enough to easily ice 3 contenders.

I like this.

But I would have a quarterfinals, with single-game elimination all the way through the final.

 

[major major]

I think this would be pretty awesome. Have 10 teams with the 1st seed getting a bye to semis.

Team USA
Team Western Canada
Team Eastern Canada
Team Ontario
Team North America (consisting of North American snubs)

Team Russia
Team Sweden
Team Finland
Team Czech Republic
Team Europe (Consisting of European snubs and smaller countries)


This isn't the olympics, this is a World Cup. Thats why there is a team Europe and Team NA. Rivalry vs the 3 Candian regions will make good hockey and Canada is deep enough to easily ice 3 contenders.

I like it. Good balance.

Though I think you can fold the Czechs into Europe and you don't need another NA snub squad.

Team Quebec would be ****. Maybe Team East (Quebec+Atlantic Canada) vs Team Ontario vs Team West

That's the exact way to do it. Quebec isn't good by itself, not anymore. Throw in the Halifax guys: Crosby, Mackinnon, Marchand, and Killorn, and they have a competitive team.

Marchand - Crosby - Bergeron
Drouin - Mackinnon - Huberdeau
Duclair - Brassard - Perreault
Perron - Killorn - Burrows

(Too many LW!)

Vlasic - Letang
Scandella - Savard
Beauchemin - Demers

Luongo
Fleury
Crawford

 

[LeafFever]

One thing people need to keep in mind is some of the best French sounding names are not from Quebec many are from the east coast and many from Eastern Ontario.

This, There are guys with French names who do not speak French and are not from Quebec. I've even seen the French media do this with players with French names on live tv. The player had to tell them he did not speak French.

 

[LeafFever]

No one asks Team U.S to get split up for basketball during the Olympics. Why should Canada?
Does the rest of Canada foot the bill for Team Quebec BTW?

 

[Wats]

No one asks Team U.S to get split up for basketball during the Olympics. Why should Canada?
Does the rest of Canada foot the bill for Team Quebec BTW?

Not olympics.

 

[Sakicfan]

Maybe in some parts of Montreal, but the rest of the Province would go wild for Team Quebec.

Not in Quebec city, which was the point I was answering (I know my post was confusing as I forgot the city part of Quebec city).

Quebec city is the region of the province of Quebec where french speaking people are most opposed to the idea of soverignty. 70% of french speaking people in Quebec city are against a sovereign Quebec. Most hockey fans living there don't care about Team Quebec and would prefer to cheer for Team Canada, so assuming that a Team Quebec would increase Gary Bettman's popularity in Quebec city is entirely wrong.

 

[Mr Positive]

I like it. Good balance.

Though I think you can fold the Czechs into Europe and you don't need another NA snub squad.



That's the exact way to do it. Quebec isn't good by itself, not anymore. Throw in the Halifax guys: Crosby, Mackinnon, Marchand, and Killorn, and they have a competitive team.

Marchand - Crosby - Bergeron
Drouin - Mackinnon - Huberdeau
Duclair - Brassard - Perreault
Perron - Killorn - Burrows

(Too many LW!)

Vlasic - Letang
Scandella - Savard
Beauchemin - Demers

Luongo
Fleury
Crawford

I see some point in doing it this way, but the only real reason to include the Atlantic is MacKinnon and Crosby. Quebec could still be an great underdog seed with Bergeron at C, Brassard moving up, and maybe putting another C like Desharnais or Dubois (if he's looking great by then). I would like to see the team be competitive for sure, but it seems more compelling to me to have it be a "Quebec" squad rather than "Canada East" since Quebec has that nation-within-a nation appeal. Canada East seems like an arbitrary way to do it, just to break up Canada.

 

[gwh]

Ireland would never associate themselves with the UK. You're thinking of Northern Ireland.

Yea, some of those teams are actually in state of war...

But why not, let s be good canadians and put them in the same team.