Shesterkybomb
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How you see this build in 2 years
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Amazing Kreiderman
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of course this is all speculation, please don't over-react to where i disagree
IMHO Jones probably wont be in NHL in 2 years,
IF he turns pro after Junior year, (whenever he turns pro) he'll still need some AHL time
Strome maybe wont still be here,
maybe not ADA by then either
Henriksson may not be ready that soon either, he didn't really find a groove this year
as noted often here, Barron may land at wing in NHL
until he has a crappy 2d NA season,
i don't take Rykov out of the picture yet
similar w Reunanen or even Hajek
strongest opinion: Robertson may jump over all the other young LHD
Some LHD, these, or Miller, get moved for future young vet upgrade(s) as cited below
i do believe that after Seattle draft, if these remain key roster holes
some prospects will get moved for a young vet C and maybe also a young vet LHD
IMHO Jones probably wont be in NHL in 2 years,
IF he turns pro after Junior year, (whenever he turns pro) he'll still need some AHL time
Strome maybe wont still be here,
maybe not ADA by then either
Henriksson may not be ready that soon either, he didn't really find a groove this year
as noted often here, Barron may land at wing in NHL
until he has a crappy 2d NA season,
i don't take Rykov out of the picture yet
similar w Reunanen or even Hajek
strongest opinion: Robertson may jump over all the other young LHD
Some LHD, these, or Miller, get moved for future young vet upgrade(s) as cited below
i do believe that after Seattle draft, if these remain key roster holes
some prospects will get moved for a young vet C and maybe also a young vet LHD
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I think it's extremely unlikely that the Rangers fill out the roster completely from within. I would expect at least one significant trade to address the lineup that sends out some of the futures the team has stockpiled.
Kreider - Zibanejad - Kakko
Panarin - Chytil - XXX
XXX - XXX - Gauthier
Lemieux - Howden/Andersson - Fast
XXX - Trouba
Lindgren - Fox
Miller - DeAngelo
Would be my guesses. Buch or Kravstov could be on that second line or Kravstov could not pan out and we may move Buch. Who knows. Chytil may be a 3C or a W on the 2nd/3rd line instead of panning out as a 2C. Kakko could be better on Panarin’s off wing than on Zib’s wing, putting the hole on a different line. Strome could still be here after 2 more years or he could (should, if we’re becoming genuinely competitive - he’s not well rounded enough to be a top six C on a contender IMO, though he’s welcome to prove me wrong).
Lots of questions. Fox and Lindgren will be a solid second pairing. DeAngelo could be on the left side with Trouba or on another pairing that gets equal time as Lindy/Fox. Miller ought to be ready for third pair minutes in 2 years. We do not have an internal solution for Trouba’s left side (in a 2 year time frame) unless DeAngelo becomes a LD at ES full time. I’m fine with running DeAngelo on the left at ES with Trouba and having Hajek/Miller/Lundkvist/Jones rotating on the third pair. We could contend with rookies on the third pair, but not filling that top LD, so unless we’re packaging Buch + for a worthwhile LD I’m okay with that solution.
Shesty will be between the pipes. Georgiev may be his backup but may not.
I’m unwilling to pencil many guys who aren’t yet on the roster into any solid spots 2 years from now. I’m sure some will begin to break in but I wouldn’t count on them for serious minutes/82 games if we’re hoping to be entering cup contention 2 years from now.
Panarin - Chytil - XXX
XXX - XXX - Gauthier
Lemieux - Howden/Andersson - Fast
XXX - Trouba
Lindgren - Fox
Miller - DeAngelo
Would be my guesses. Buch or Kravstov could be on that second line or Kravstov could not pan out and we may move Buch. Who knows. Chytil may be a 3C or a W on the 2nd/3rd line instead of panning out as a 2C. Kakko could be better on Panarin’s off wing than on Zib’s wing, putting the hole on a different line. Strome could still be here after 2 more years or he could (should, if we’re becoming genuinely competitive - he’s not well rounded enough to be a top six C on a contender IMO, though he’s welcome to prove me wrong).
Lots of questions. Fox and Lindgren will be a solid second pairing. DeAngelo could be on the left side with Trouba or on another pairing that gets equal time as Lindy/Fox. Miller ought to be ready for third pair minutes in 2 years. We do not have an internal solution for Trouba’s left side (in a 2 year time frame) unless DeAngelo becomes a LD at ES full time. I’m fine with running DeAngelo on the left at ES with Trouba and having Hajek/Miller/Lundkvist/Jones rotating on the third pair. We could contend with rookies on the third pair, but not filling that top LD, so unless we’re packaging Buch + for a worthwhile LD I’m okay with that solution.
Shesty will be between the pipes. Georgiev may be his backup but may not.
I’m unwilling to pencil many guys who aren’t yet on the roster into any solid spots 2 years from now. I’m sure some will begin to break in but I wouldn’t count on them for serious minutes/82 games if we’re hoping to be entering cup contention 2 years from now.
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I am pretty sure he meant Lundkvist.
Zac Jones is the very interesting x factor. If he becomes a legit top 4 left guy that would be amazing. I still see Fox-Lindgren because of their great chemistry and compatibility but of course things can change in two years.
Really don't see Hendrickson as a 4th liner.
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In summer 2022 I hope they try to sign Brayden Point. Tampa will be trending down and is going to have a really tough time signing him. He could be the final piece of the puzzle.
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I didn't even mention the spelling of "Henriksson" but that hurt my eyes 
I'm not for rushing Nils (or Miller) at all but possibly by the 2021-2022 he could be ready? otherwise 2022-2023.
Will we have the money to do that??? Even with Hank, Staal and Smith gone we have to seriously pay Zibby. I guess if you say goodbye to guys like Strome and Buch possibly
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good call. Under the radar Zac Jones. Team has a ton of skill throughout he system on the backend
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I think this team should build from within unless they move out a talented inexpensive skilled defenseman for an talented inexpensive forward. Otherwise, this cap will come back to haunt the Rangers.
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Yes we currently don't have the horses on defense to be a very good defensive team but they are building it correctly and thru the draft. Little unfair to make that statement now. I wasn't a huge fan of the Trouba trade but even having said that they are drafting pretty well on the d side it seems and that is the only way we are gonna get out of the defensive mess we are in.
That's the only way we are gonna build it. It's very hard to find top dmen who haven't taken a beating in this league and want big money/term. Not sure if we can pull off a Zibby type heist on defense. Maybe Trouba becomes a terrific number 1 RHD and proves us wrong. Hopefully.
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The left side at the very least will still be poor in 2 years.
That's gonna take a lot of time to fix.
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Seth Jones is also a UFA in 2022.
I understand worrying about the cap, but I am more worried about an era of mediocrity, good but not good enough. Basically like the Rangers of the last decade or the 90s Knicks. The Leafs have shown that you can make a bunch of star players work even with the cap. The problem with the Leafs is that they focused too much of offense and not enough on defense, and it is still possible for them to get out of that with a trade. I think the Rangers definitely have room for another superstar player.
I understand worrying about the cap, but I am more worried about an era of mediocrity, good but not good enough. Basically like the Rangers of the last decade or the 90s Knicks. The Leafs have shown that you can make a bunch of star players work even with the cap. The problem with the Leafs is that they focused too much of offense and not enough on defense, and it is still possible for them to get out of that with a trade. I think the Rangers definitely have room for another superstar player.
The Rangers will have a lot of assets and (in a year) plenty of money to fill a couple of holes. They have a chance to be excellent. Let it play out.
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