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Prairie Habs

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:laugh: You realize Starship Troopers was itself an adaptation that completely missed the point of the original?
 
Hivemind

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Prairie Habs said:
:laugh: You realize Starship Troopers was itself an adaptation that completely missed the point of the original?
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If by "missed the point" you mean intentionally satirized, then sure. The film version was intentionally lampooning the nationalism and militarism of the original novel.
 
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I loved the original...it was a fun, cheesy, campy movie with some nice visuals.
I expect them to try some gritty reboot, but I'll still probably give it a shot.

Just hope they bring back NPH in the reboot.
 
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****. The original is one of my favorite movies. So clever and underrated.

The satire was so perfect and I love how the intentional casting of poor actors.
 
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Ugh, there is no way they will top the original, just like with the other two remakes.
 
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I saw this on AV Club a while ago and thought it was a pretty good brief summary on the film for a lot of people who saw it when they were young (like me) and the not-so-subtle political jabs may have gone over their heads. I didn't really get it until I watched it again when I was older and now it's one of my favorites.

Paul Verhoeven’s gonzo satire was destined, even designed, to be misunderstood. An action spectacle with the heart of a Grade-Z creature feature, the movie was derided as “90210 in space,” missing the fact that Verhoeven deliberately cast blandly good-looking actors as fodder for the movie’s militaristic mill. Stealing shots from Triumph Of The Will, the story of a society abandoning individual rights, and even identities, in response to an alien invasion, Starship Troopers is a wicked, acidic comment on how easily people can be convinced to trade freedom for security. That it also functions for the unaware as a full-throated Fascist recruiting ad is part of its brilliance. Verhoeven admits and even indulges its appeal before turning it inside out.
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A remake isn't totally dead in the water, until:

Mark Swift and Damian Shannon, the writing duo behind the upcoming Zac Efron-Dwayne Johnson 'Baywatch' movie, will write the script for the alien-bug war film.
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followed by:

Neal H. Moritz, the producer behind the Fast & Furious franchise, is producing with Toby Jaffe, with whom he worked on the studio's remake of another 1990s sci-fi pic, Total Recall.
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Remember, there are executives paid to put the talent behind these films and this is what they come up with. Also remember that there are people betting millions on financing these movies, and this is what they sign off on. Never, ever feel bad for Hollywood.
 
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I love that movie. Not sure why the hell they feel the need to reboot it.
 
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Hivemind said:
If by "missed the point" you mean intentionally satirized, then sure. The film version was intentionally lampooning the nationalism and militarism of the original novel.
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The book itself was satire. It's pretty well adapted if you ask me. A little less thoughtful than the book (happens a lot in movies) but hit the tone.
 
Hivemind

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Eisen said:
The book itself was satire. It's pretty well adapted if you ask me. A little less thoughtful than the book (happens a lot in movies) but hit the tone.
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Some people interpret the novel as satire. The majority, however, do not. The perspective espoused in the novel generally parallels Heinlein's perspectives in both earlier and later works, and the History & Moral Philosophy teacher in the novel is generally thought to be a proxy for Heinlein speaking directly to the reader.
 
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I don't want to know more.
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All I know is Stranger in a Strange Land is an effing bizarre book.
 
Hivemind

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Heinlein's novels aren't really plot driven, so much as they are fictional explorations of characters, settings, and concepts.
 
kmad

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Hivemind said:
Heinlein's novels aren't really plot driven, so much as they are fictional explorations of characters, settings, and concepts.
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And when so many contemporary authors have expounded on his ideas in far more meaningful ways...
 

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One of the best things about the original is that it was so violent. It's nearly a certainty that they're going to make this PG-13 and it'll lose all of the brutal charm of the original. It's also probably going to take itself seriously--i.e. not be a satire--and lose the absurdity charm, as well. You probably could make a serious, PG-13 Starship Troopers that's actually good, but that would require great vision, writing and direction, and the chances of Hollywood employing all three in a blockbuster nowadays is really, really low.
 
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