HOH Top-70 Pre-Merger Players List & Voting Record - jigglysquishy

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BenchBrawl

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Jul 26, 2010
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Round 1 list
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[TD]Frank Nighbor[/TD]
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[TD]Cyclone Taylor[/TD]
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[TD]Newsy Lalonde[/TD]
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[TD]Sprague Cleghorn[/TD]
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[TD]Georges Vezina[/TD]
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[TD]Clint Benedict[/TD]
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[TD]Russell Bowie[/TD]
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[TD]Joe Malone[/TD]
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[TD]Eddie Gerard[/TD]
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[TD]Cy Denneny[/TD]
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[TD]Tommy Phillips[/TD]
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[TD]Hod Stuart[/TD]
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[TD]Hugh Lehman[/TD]
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[TD]Moose Johnson[/TD]
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[TD]Georges Boucher[/TD]
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[TD]Mickey MacKay[/TD]
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[TD]Babe Dye[/TD]
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[TD]Frank Fredrickson[/TD]
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[TD]Didier Pitre[/TD]
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[TD]Duke Keats[/TD]
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[TD]Lester Patrick[/TD]
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[TD]Hap Holmes[/TD]
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[TD]Harvey Pulford[/TD]
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[TD]Frank Foyston[/TD]
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[TD]Frank McGee[/TD]
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[TD]Percy Lesueur[/TD]
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[TD]Ernie Russell[/TD]
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[TD]Harry Cameron[/TD]
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[TD]Tommy Dunderdale[/TD]
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[TD]Joe Simpson[/TD]
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[TD]Herb Gardiner[/TD]
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[TD]Mike Grant[/TD]
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[TD]Bob McDougall[/TD]
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[TD]Jack Walker[/TD]
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[TD]Art Ross[/TD]
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[TD]George Hay[/TD]
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[TD]Frank Patrick[/TD]
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[TD]Jack Darragh[/TD]
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[TD]Dan Bain[/TD]
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[TD]Lloyd Cook[/TD]
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[TD]Tommy Smith[/TD]
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[TD]Dick Irvin[/TD]
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[TD]Bernie Morris[/TD]
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[TD]Art Duncan[/TD]
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[TD]Reg Noble[/TD]
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[TD]Punch Broadbent[/TD]
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[TD]Si Griffis[/TD]
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[TD]Dolly Swift[/TD]
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[TD]Alf Smith[/TD]
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[TD]Harry Oliver[/TD]
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[TD]Bobby Rowe[/TD]
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[TD]Riley Hern[/TD]
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[TD]Jack Marshall[/TD]
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[TD]Jack Laviolette[/TD]
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[TD]Dickie Boon[/TD]
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[TD]Tom Paton[/TD]
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[TD]Joe Hall[/TD]
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[TD]Bouse Hutton[/TD]
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[TD]Weldy Young[/TD]
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[TD]Paddy Moran[/TD]
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[TD]Marty Walsh[/TD]
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[TD]Smokey Harris[/TD]
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[TD]Art Gagne[/TD]
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[TD]Harry Trihey[/TD]
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[TD]Odie Cleghorn[/TD]
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[TD]Dubbie Kerr[/TD]
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[TD]Rusty Crawford[/TD]
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[TD]Leo Reise Sr.[/TD]
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[TD]Bert Corbeau[/TD]
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[TD]Carson Cooper[/TD]
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[TD]Harry Hyland[/TD]
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[TD]Hamby Shore[/TD]
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[TD]Haviland Routh[/TD]
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[TD]Billy Coutu[/TD]
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[TD]Allan Cameron[/TD]
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[TD]Billy Nicholson[/TD]
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[TD]Gord Roberts[/TD]
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[TD]Graham Drinkwater[/TD]
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[TD]Jack Adams[/TD]
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[TD]James Stewart[/TD]
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Players ranked highest overall on this list
Bobby Rowe at 51st
Jack Laviolette at 54th
Leo Reise Sr at 68th
Bert Corbeau at 69th
Billy Coutu at 74th

Players ranked lowest overall on this list
none

Players from our final Top 70 not ranked on this list
Jack Campbell
Eddie Oatman
Harry Smith

Players unique to this list
Bert Corbeau
Billy Coutu

Round 2 Voting Record
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[TD]Nighbor[/TD]
[TD]Malone[/TD]
[TD]Lehman[/TD]
[TD]M. Johnson[/TD]
[TD]Pulford[/TD]
[TD]Pitre[/TD]
[TD]A. Smith[/TD]
[TD]J. Campbell[/TD]
[TD]Hall[/TD]
[TD]Walsh[/TD]
[TD]Swift[/TD]
[TD]Swift[/TD]
[TD]Paton[/TD]
[TD]D. Kerr[/TD]
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[TD]Taylor[/TD]
[TD]Gerard[/TD]
[TD]Cy Denneny[/TD]
[TD]MacKay[/TD]
[TD]Grant[/TD]
[TD]Ross[/TD]
[TD]Bain[/TD]
[TD]Walker[/TD]
[TD]Noble[/TD]
[TD]Routh[/TD]
[TD]Routh[/TD]
[TD]Paton[/TD]
[TD]Boon[/TD]
[TD]J. Adams[/TD]
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[TD]Lalonde[/TD]
[TD]Lehman[/TD]
[TD]H. Stuart[/TD]
[TD]Keats[/TD]
[TD]H. Cameron[/TD]
[TD]Holmes[/TD]
[TD]W. Young[/TD]
[TD]Moran[/TD]
[TD]Dunderdale[/TD]
[TD]Go. Roberts[/TD]
[TD]A. Cameron[/TD]
[TD]Cooper[/TD]
[TD]Hyland[/TD]
[TD]Hern[/TD]
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[TD]S. Cleghorn[/TD]
[TD]Phillips[/TD]
[TD]Fredrickson[/TD]
[TD]McGee[/TD]
[TD]Pitre[/TD]
[TD]Simpson[/TD]
[TD]Simpson[/TD]
[TD]Tom. Smith[/TD]
[TD]MacDougall[/TD]
[TD]J. Marshall[/TD]
[TD]J. Marshall[/TD]
[TD]Hutton[/TD]
[TD]Hutton[/TD]
[TD]Darragh[/TD]
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[TD]Bowie[/TD]
[TD]Benedict[/TD]
[TD]M.Johnson[/TD]
[TD]Pulford[/TD]
[TD]Dye[/TD]
[TD]Bain[/TD]
[TD]Moran[/TD]
[TD]Morris[/TD]
[TD]F. Patrick[/TD]
[TD]Griffis[/TD]
[TD]L. Cook[/TD]
[TD]Gagne[/TD]
[TD]D. Kerr[/TD]
[TD]Hutton[/TD]
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[TD]Vezina[/TD]
[TD]Cy Denneny[/TD]
[TD]G. Boucher[/TD]
[TD]Foyston[/TD]
[TD]Foyston[/TD]
[TD]Lesueur[/TD]
[TD]Walker[/TD]
[TD]Dunderdale[/TD]
[TD]Routh[/TD]
[TD]L. Cook[/TD]
[TD]Broadbent[/TD]
[TD]D. Kerr[/TD]
[TD]Gagne[/TD]
[TD]Ha. Smith[/TD]
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[TD]Malone[/TD]
[TD]H. Stuart[/TD]
[TD]Foyston[/TD]
[TD]Pitre[/TD]
[TD]Ross[/TD]
[TD]Hay[/TD]
[TD]Tom. Smith[/TD]
[TD]Go. Roberts[/TD]
[TD]Walsh[/TD]
[TD]Duncan[/TD]
[TD]E. Russell[/TD]
[TD]Darragh[/TD]
[TD]Trihey[/TD]
[TD]Shir. Davidson[/TD]
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[TD]Benedict[/TD]
[TD]Fredrickson[/TD]
[TD]Pitre[/TD]
[TD]L. Patrick[/TD]
[TD]Holmes[/TD]
[TD]Morris[/TD]
[TD]Morris[/TD]
[TD]H. Gardiner[/TD]
[TD]J. Marshall[/TD]
[TD]H. Oliver[/TD]
[TD]Paton[/TD]
[TD]J. Adams[/TD]
[TD]Darragh[/TD]
[TD]Oatman[/TD]
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[TD]Gerard[/TD]
[TD]M. Johnson[/TD]
[TD]L. Patrick[/TD]
[TD]Grant[/TD]
[TD]Simpson[/TD]
[TD]Dunderdale[/TD]
[TD]Go. Roberts[/TD]
[TD]Hall[/TD]
[TD]Irvin[/TD]
[TD]E. Russell[/TD]
[TD]Darragh[/TD]
[TD]O. Cleghorn[/TD]
[TD]J. Adams[/TD]
[TD]Hyland[/TD]
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[TD]Cy Denneny[/TD]
[TD]G. Boucher[/TD]
[TD]McGee[/TD]
[TD]Dye[/TD]
[TD]Lesueur[/TD]
[TD]Tom.Smith[/TD]
[TD]Dunderdale[/TD]
[TD]F. Patrick[/TD]
[TD]Go.Roberts[/TD]
[TD]Broadbent[/TD]
[TD]Hern[/TD]
[TD]Hern[/TD]
[TD]Hern[/TD]
[TD]O. Cleghorn[/TD]
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Jack Campbell was by far my biggest miss. Bobby Rowe and Jack Laviolette were my biggest reaches.

My initial list was too harsh on pre 1900 players. I overcorrected for the small player base and ended up underrating several 1890-1895 players. In particular, a guy like Weldy Young.

In comparison to the final list, I was harshest on
Jack Campbell (ranked 37 and I didn't even rank him!) (1880s)
Gord Roberts -30 (1910s)
Weldy Young -28 (1890s)
Paddy Moran -24 (1900s and 1910s)
Allan Cameron -22 (1890s)

I was strongest on
Ernie Russell +28 (1900s)
Jack Darragh +28 (1910s)
Lloyd Cook +17 (1910s and 1920s)
Tommy Dunderale +17 (1910s)
Riley Hern +13 (1900s)

I expected myself to be most wrong on early players, but it's a bit of a mixed bag. I definitely sold too high on offensive only players. Jack Campbell, Allan Cameron, and Weldy Young are the three I would most change going forward.

I thought I would be highest on Ernie Russell, as I think it was my biggest misread too high. But someone loved him even more!

It surprised me that no one else ranked Bert Corbeau. Strong defensive play with some decent scoring years in 1918, 1920, and 1923.

Overall, I think I corrected most of my poor assumptions in the second round and was quick to adapt when new information was presented. This project was a lot of fun and by far the one I learned the most in.
 

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