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2nd Jury selected April 25th reportedly 9 women and 5 men, two of the 14 being alternates that presumably will sit with the jury but would only attend the subsequent jury deliberations if needed as a replacement. It has not been reported how the jurors self-identify, and I believe Canadian legal practise currently does not permit the question to be asked

All 5 accused again entered pleas of not guilty

Opening comments from Crown and presumably some instructions from the trial judge Maria Carroccia are scheduled for Monday April 28, 2025 should the trial continue

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Summary in advance of trial proceedings that commenced April 22, 2025.

www.tsn.ca

Courtroom primer: 10 questions to consider as trial looms for former World Junior players | TSN

Tuesday in a courtroom in London, Ont., five former members of Canada’s 2018 World Juniors team go on trial, 15 months after they were charged with sexual assault.
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Pretrial hearings apparently for three weeks commencing on or about November 24 2024, attended by three of the accused.

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On or about November 13, 2024: Trial date set for April 22, 2025, rejecting the September 2025 trial date that had been set earlier.

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Pretrial hearings apparently for 2 days commencing on or about September 5, 2024, all of the accused excused from attending where "each provided an affidavit wherein they acknowledge the importance of the proceedings and waive the necessity of attending the hearings. It is clear each of the applicants has a need to work or find work not only to sustain themselves, but to pay their expenses, which at this point include legal fees."

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On or about August 13, 2024: Trial date initially set for September 8, 2025 (later advanced to April 22, 2025).

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Pretrial hearings commencing on or about July 22, 2024, "via zoom."

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Pretrial hearings commencing on or about July 3, 2024, "via zoom."

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Original trial reporting for April 22, 2025, (declared to jury as mistrial on April 25, 2025, new jury was drawn from the jury panel that day):

Jury selected today, 11 women, 3 men, if you are into the binary thing

2 alternates. Whatever. 12 will decide. Trial expected to last 8 weeks

Each of the accused has a team of lawyers, each allowed to cross-examine

But no doubt she has been given five teams of lawyers, to allow for the possibility of justice

Among (many) others, Makar is a prospective witness

A historic moment

www.tsn.ca

Rick Westhead: Jury selected at London hockey trial | TSN

The five former members of Canada’s 2018 World Junior hockey team appeared in a London, Ont., court together for the first time Tuesday morning as their sexual assault trial began.
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updated April 28 2025

article by Katie Strang and Dan Robson on Michael McLeod, dated April 18, 2025 and update April 21, 2025

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If these guys aren’t convicted will they get their careers back or are they done regardless of the trial result?
 
Andre Palot said:
That's a very good question.
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The fact that the one dude quit hockey entirely and started learning the construction trade tells me he knows that once all the facts come out, he’s not gonna have a job in pro hockey, in NA at least.

I’m sure they will all be welcomed in the KHL regardless

Have a feeling they will all do hard time, some much more than others
 
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Fatass said:
If these guys aren’t convicted will they get their careers back or are they done regardless of the trial result?
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I meant to reply to your question but replied to some else’s response accidentally.

Prosecutors rarely go to court if they don’t feel the evidence is enough for a guilty verdict. Even if there is an acquittal because of time, proof, or contradiction, the details of what DID happen are going to be pretty damning in the public eye.
 
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Breakers said:
Any of these guys still under contract?
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No

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4 players from Hockey Canada case become UFAs

The four NHL players from the sexual assault case that rocked Canadian hockey and led to investigations of the nation's 2018 world junior team, were not offered contracts by their respective teams on Sunday, a major development from a hockey perspective.
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Kevinsane said:
I meant to reply to your question but replied to some else’s response accidentally.

Prosecutors rarely go to court if they don’t feel the evidence is enough for a guilty verdict. Even if there is an acquittal because of time, proof, or contradiction, the details of what DID happen are going to be pretty damning in the public eye.
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I believe the vast majority of rape cases end in acquittal

But that is just speculation on my part
 
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Kevinsane said:
Something happened. Whether it meets the bar of criminal is for the trial to decide, but even if a not guilty verdict is the outcome, that’s vastly different than “innocent”.
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It's a tough situation when people have to prove they are innocent, which is not even the standard for criminal convictions.

But it is what it is. The NHL is an entertainment product and so PR is king. The nature of these kind of charges make conviction difficult, which means a "not guilty" verdict isn't very vindicating in the eyes of the public, and for good reason.

If they are aquitted, and allowed to play, I don't think teams will sign them. Could you imagine the shitstorm if a team signs them, jumps a bunch of hurdles to try and make it okay, and them some new charges come or there's a civil trial or whatever. It would be a distraction that would wreck the team and the fans would hate their own team

I know cynical people will say that someone would sign these guys, but remember Voynov? He was a fantastic Dman, and he was un-signable after his domestic violence charges (and they were dropped iirc)
 
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Coming out hot with this one huh? Asinine comment to make.

But I look forward more towards the people who come here to bash hockey and say how it's so toxic and a problem with the sport etc. and completely ignore what goes on in other sports.

If they are found innocent they should be immediately in good graces with the league and they should take her to civil court after.

Unfortunately that isn't a guarantee, as Trevor Bauer found in baseball. Even when it was found the allegations were false, his reputation had been permanently damaged by the "believe every accusation right away" crowd.
 
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Fatass said:
If these guys aren’t convicted will they get their careers back or are they done regardless of the trial result?
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In sports, the answer is always depends on how good you are. If they're worth the circus they'd bring, they'll have a career.

Obviously apples and oranges, but look at kneeling in the Nfl. That cost some dudes their jobs. Cam Newton didn't go anywhere. At the time he was worth it.

In the MLB, if Trevor Bauer were still an ace he'd easily have a job. If you're just a guy though you aren't worth the headache.

I'm not taking a side here, that's just the cold reality of pro sports.
 
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The fact that they entered the room without making sure the girl was ok with it first shows that they had bad intentions. If they genuinely thought the girl would be ok with it then they would've had the first guy ask her just to make sure. They were clearly hoping that the girl would feel pressured to just go along with it if they just walked in.

Something has to go wrong with your upbringing/development to want to have sex with one girl with a bunch of your friends/teammates while you take turns spitting on her/slapping her/sticking objects inside her (according to what was written on the incident ) I really don't understand the appeal and that seems like true sexual depravity. The psychology behind it interests me as far as what would make people find that appealing? Especially when you're talking about guys who would have no problem finding good looking girls to have sex with one on one.
 
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Mr Positive said:
It's a tough situation when people have to prove they are innocent, which is not even the standard for criminal convictions.

But it is what it is. The NHL is an entertainment product and so PR is king. The nature of these kind of charges make conviction difficult, which means a "not guilty" verdict isn't very vindicating in the eyes of the public, and for good reason.

If they are aquitted, and allowed to play, I don't think teams will sign them. Could you imagine the shitstorm if a team signs them, jumps a bunch of hurdles to try and make it okay, and them some new charges come or there's a civil trial or whatever. It would be a distraction that would wreck the team and the fans would hate their own team

I know cynical people will say that someone would sign these guys, but remember Voynov? He was a fantastic Dman, and he was un-signable after his domestic violence charges (and they were dropped iirc)
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I can't see Ottawa ever signing Formenton
 
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