Hischier vs Kotkaniemi

mattydamon · Feb 6, 2019

Who do you take going forward?

Hischier

48

16

20

36

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Kotkaniemi

54

9

17

26

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Both playing in the NHL in their D+1 as an 18 year old - both great young players but who will be better?

Isaac Nootin · Feb 6, 2019

I vote that you add a poll.

Brucelenok · Feb 6, 2019

Hischier. In his prime I see Datsyuk-light in him with less flash and a bit worse defense

koyvoo · Feb 6, 2019

Hischier actually had a top 20 alltime season for 18 yr olds in the history of the league. If you account for high scoring eras, he may have had a top 10 season alltime for 18 yr olds.

18-Year Old NHL Players - Regular Season Stats

I’d love to say Kotka here, and feel he is tracking to be a very good #1C himself with his own impressive 18 yr old season, but I have to give the edge to Hischier on this one.

mattydamon · Feb 6, 2019

Isaac Nootin said:
I vote that you add a poll.

My bad - thanks for the heads up!

Added ^

135ace · Feb 6, 2019

I like Kotka, but this really is a "everything Kotka has done Nico has done better" situation.

Edit:
Before people start claiming Nico benefits from playing with Hall it should be pointed out that since Hall's been injured Nico has further elevated his play and is producing at a 30+ Goal 65 point pace while carrying a pretty mediocre 1st line.

CristianoRonaldo · Feb 6, 2019

135ace said:
I like Kotka, but this really is a "everything Kotka has done Nico has done better" situation.

Edit:
Before people start claiming Nico benefits from playing with Hall it should be pointed out that since Hall's been injured Nico has further elevated his play and is producing at a 30+ Goal 65 point pace while carrying a pretty mediocre 1st line.

Kotkanemi is getting 3rd line minutes with 3rd liners, you can't compare them.

BowDownToVasilevskiy · Feb 6, 2019

Hischier

135ace · Feb 6, 2019

Kaperi Spacey said:
Kotkanemi is getting 3rd line minutes with 3rd liners, you can't compare them.

So by that logic guys like Bjugstad could easily be better than Crosby and Malkin...if only they got 1st line minutes. Nico is producing on one of the worst teams in the league playing with illustrious 1st liners Kyle Palmieri (who is a decent 1st liner) and Marcus Johansson (who is a 3rd line player). Put Kotka in Nico's situation and I doubt his production is anywhere near Nico's.

Edit: To be honest considering skill, production and deployment a Kotka vs Nolan Patrick poll would make much more sense. Nico is just in a tier above.

CristianoRonaldo · Feb 6, 2019

135ace said:
So by that logic guys like Bjugstad could easily be better than Crosby and Malkin...if only they got 1st line minutes. Nico is producing on one of the worst teams in the league playing with illustrious 1st liners Kyle Palmieri (who is a decent 1st liner) and Marcus Johansson (who is a 3rd line player). Put Kotka in Nico's situation and I doubt his production is anywhere near Nico's.

Like I said we can't compare, because we need to see Kotkaniemi in the same situation as Nico, before reaching a conclusion. I never said what you imply.

tony d · Feb 6, 2019

Nico for me.

A Loyal Demidog · Feb 6, 2019

Kotka is special, so him.

HabsWhiteKnightLOL · Feb 6, 2019

Both will be #1

Albatros · Feb 6, 2019

Hischier so far, but it might be getting closer.

Nick Slafkofield · Feb 6, 2019

135ace said:
So by that logic guys like Bjugstad could easily be better than Crosby and Malkin...if only they got 1st line minutes. Nico is producing on one of the worst teams in the league playing with illustrious 1st liners Kyle Palmieri (who is a decent 1st liner) and Marcus Johansson (who is a 3rd line player). Put Kotka in Nico's situation and I doubt his production is anywhere near Nico's.

Edit: To be honest considering skill, production and deployment a Kotka vs Nolan Patrick poll would make much more sense. Nico is just in a tier above.

There was a poll kotka vs Patrick and kotka won easily

Kudo Shinichi · Feb 6, 2019

135ace said:
To be honest considering skill, production and deployment a Kotka vs Nolan Patrick poll would make much more sense. Nico is just in a tier above.

Nolan was 19 year old the whole season last year.
Kotkaniemi won't turn 19 until July

LuckyBoeser · Feb 6, 2019

Hischier now

It will be close in the future

Captain97 · Feb 6, 2019

I have them as similar pieces so Homer vote for the eagle.

Foppberg · Feb 6, 2019

f*** if I know

Xirik · Feb 6, 2019

Yes every Canadian Teams draft pick is better then Hischier.

First Vancouver fans now Montreal. :thumbd:

CP4 · Feb 6, 2019

Xirik said:
Yes every Canadian Teams draft pick is better then Hischier.

First Vancouver fans now Montreal.

This is a just a poll and Hischier is winning by quite a fair margin. On top of that most replies have chosen Hischier as well. Everyone's not out to get you.

Addison Rae · Feb 6, 2019

Xirik said:
Yes every Canadian Teams draft pick is better then Hischier.

First Vancouver fans now Montreal.

Lol yeah I’m sure it’s only Canucks fans who think Pettersson is better than Hischier :facepalm:

Hischier and Hughes · Feb 7, 2019

dim jim said:
Lol yeah I’m sure it’s only Canucks fans who think Pettersson is better than Hischier

Nope, just folks with small attention spans

elitepete · Feb 7, 2019

Lmao Kotkaniemi doesn’t hold a candle to Hischier.

elitepete · Feb 7, 2019

Hidden Hair of Hynes said:
Nope, just folks with small attention spans

Just like Hischier is a lot better than Kotkaniemi, EP is a lot better than Hischier.

Hischier vs Kotkaniemi