Player Discussion Highest cap hit, highest expectations

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

From our highest paid players (at least per cap hit), who do you have the highest expectations of come up big when we need it?

David Krejci: 7.25 M. 9.7% of total cap
Tuukka Rask: 7.0 M. 9.36% of total cap
Zdeno Chara: 6.91 M. 9.25% of total cap
Patrice Bergeron: 6.875 M. 9.19% of total cap
David Backes: 6 M. 8.02% of total cap

These are the guys, if anyone that should be leading the way should we win. Who do you have the highest expectations of?

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[NDiesel]

Bergeron is criminally underpaid. If Toews can garner 10mil contracts, Bergeron should be at least 8.5 million. That being said I have the highest expectations for him because he is our best player.

Rask is a close second.

 

[chizzler]

Rask all day. Even though I know where this is coming from and I agree with OP in the other thread.

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

Rask all day. Even though I know where this is coming from and I agree with OP in the other thread.

I started this thread mostly out of being unable to talk about these expectations of players in their player threads without critics being labeled haters or on the opposite side, fanboys.

We all want these guys to succeed, I'm not sure why there are people that think otherwise, we are just very vocal and passionate about our expectations and disappointments should they not be met.

With salary/impact factored in, here's my order.
My list is:
1. Rask, he is essentially the most important position, and top 3 salary in the league for the position. He had amazing stats in the beginning of the season, but mid-late season had some pretty awful stats. It all averaged out to mediocre stats, and a solid win line, but he's a Vezina quality goalie. That's my expectation of him. He's in the most important position on the ice. And that's heavy.
2. Krejci, close second, but he's top 10 salary in the position, he's the kind of guy that should make guys around him better, not the other way around. I'm likely harder on him due to his salary, but there's a reason he got the contract.
3. Backes, wasn't happy with the length, but I understand that's likely the cost to acquire him. I do expect more offense... and am worried it could become an anchor.
4. Bergeron, offensive stats down this year, but another Selke nomination, he's paid for more than just his offense. I do expect better offense output, but a little is negated with his defensive game.
5. Chara, with his age, and decreasing cap hit next year, my expectations aren't as high for him. Just hoping to give him a solid performance, and he's kind of all alone with rookies on a depleted d-core right now.

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

Rask

 

[NDiesel]

I started this thread mostly out of being unable to talk about these expectations of players in their player threads without critics being labeled haters or on the opposite side, fanboys.

We all want these guys to succeed, I'm not sure why there are people that think otherwise, we are just very vocal and passionate about our expectations and disappointments should they not be met.

With salary/impact factored in, here's my order.
My list is:
1. Rask, he is essentially the most important position, and top 3 salary in the league for the position. He had amazing stats in the beginning of the season, but mid-late season had some pretty awful stats. It all averaged out to mediocre stats, and a solid win line, but he's a Vezina quality goalie. That's my expectation of him. He's in the most important position on the ice. And that's heavy.
2. Krejci, close second, but he's top 10 salary in the position, he's the kind of guy that should make guys around him better, not the other way around. I'm likely harder on him due to his salary, but there's a reason he got the contract.
3. Backes, wasn't happy with the length, but I understand that's likely the cost to acquire him. I do expect more offense... and am worried it could become an anchor.
4. Bergeron, offensive stats down this year, but another Selke nomination, he's paid for more than just his offense. I do expect better offense output, but a little is negated with his defensive game.
5. Chara, with his age, and decreasing cap hit next year, my expectations aren't as high for him. Just hoping to give him a solid performance, and he's kind of all alone with rookies on a depleted d-core right now.

I know the frustration you must have as you in particular are capable of having civil and well informed discussions on these boards, but there absolutely are "haters" out there who will take any chance to **** on the player of their choice whether it be Rask, Krejci, Backes, Chara, etc.

You can tell who these people are because they become silent when the player is doing well and are out in full force after a single mistake.

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

I know the frustration you must have as you in particular are capable of having civil and well informed discussions on these boards, but there absolutely are "haters" out there who will take any chance to **** on the player of their choice whether it be Rask, Krejci, Backes, Chara, etc.

You can tell who these people are because they become silent when the player is doing well and are out in full force after a single mistake.

The point was to talk about expectations. There's enough "hater" talk in the other threads. I didn't want to bring that in here.

What are your expectations? And who do you have the highest expectations of?

 

[Seidenbergy]

We all want these guys to succeed, I'm not sure why there are people that think otherwise, we are just very vocal and passionate about our expectations and disappointments should they not be met.

It's a simple fact of life. There are "fans" of every team of every sport in the world that openly hate players on their teams and hope that they do poorly enough to be cut or traded from their team. They don't care that it would actually hurt their team's chances of winning. It may not seem logical/rational/whatever to you. You may not understand it. You may not label them as being "true fans". But it's not debatable. These people exist.

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

It's a simple fact of life. There are "fans" of every team of every sport in the world that openly hate players on their teams and hope that they do poorly enough to be cut or traded from their team. They don't care that it would actually hurt their team's chances of winning. It may not seem logical/rational/whatever to you. You may not understand it. You may not label them as being "true fans". But it's not debatable. These people exist.

Not attacking you or your opinion, but I wanted to start the conversation about the OP. What are your expectations of THE PLAYERS listed?

 

[Seidenbergy]

Not attacking you or your opinion, but I wanted to start the conversation about the OP. What are your expectations of THE PLAYERS listed?

Honestly, you nailed the order IMO. I might flip Backes and Bergeron if anything, but they're close.

 

[gvkmedia]

I voted and then read the posts in the thread. WTB55, good analysis. I too voted Rask. It starts with him.

 

[LSCII]

Krejci. He's shown twice in the playoffs that he can be an elite player, is being paid as an elite player, yet takes way too many nights off to actually be an elite player. Injury history aside, he needs to be better and earn that contract if this team wants to honestly compete in the short term, while they wait for the draft picks to start really contributing.

 

[KrejciMVP]

I started this thread mostly out of being unable to talk about these expectations of players in their player threads without critics being labeled haters or on the opposite side, fanboys.

We all want these guys to succeed, I'm not sure why there are people that think otherwise, we are just very vocal and passionate about our expectations and disappointments should they not be met.

With salary/impact factored in, here's my order.
My list is:
1. Rask, he is essentially the most important position, and top 3 salary in the league for the position. He had amazing stats in the beginning of the season, but mid-late season had some pretty awful stats. It all averaged out to mediocre stats, and a solid win line, but he's a Vezina quality goalie. That's my expectation of him. He's in the most important position on the ice. And that's heavy.
2. Krejci, close second, but he's top 10 salary in the position, he's the kind of guy that should make guys around him better, not the other way around. I'm likely harder on him due to his salary, but there's a reason he got the contract.
3. Backes, wasn't happy with the length, but I understand that's likely the cost to acquire him. I do expect more offense... and am worried it could become an anchor.
4. Bergeron, offensive stats down this year, but another Selke nomination, he's paid for more than just his offense. I do expect better offense output, but a little is negated with his defensive game.
5. Chara, with his age, and decreasing cap hit next year, my expectations aren't as high for him. Just hoping to give him a solid performance, and he's kind of all alone with rookies on a depleted d-core right now.

Did I inspire this ? Lol

 

[NDiesel]

The point was to talk about expectations. There's enough "hater" talk in the other threads. I didn't want to bring that in here.

What are your expectations? And who do you have the highest expectations of?

Didn't mean to go off topic.

 

[Dr Hook]

For me it's Krejci, because he can be a great player when he is on his game- the guy has magic vision and hands. At 7.5/yr we need him to be consistently good and often great. The team is far worse when he is out, or not playing up to his abilities.

 

[Ten Thousand Hours]

If the question were phrased "who's our best player?" wouldn't every answer be Bergeron? Why is this different? Expectations are highest for the best player.

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

2 seperate questions here

we expect more from guys we believe have more to offer... and that isnt connected to paychecks

i mean if mcavoy spends next year in providence it will not meet my expectations.

meanwhile if jimmy hayes does, it will meet my expectations



i know rask is most important to our success but that would be true even if he was paid 1 million.

i know chara is the guy i worry about falling off the face

i know backes has the lowest high end potential

krecji will frustrate me the most

if i felt there was 1 guy who should be traded based on contract it would be krejci. but i wouldnt trade krejci for 2 beleskys... or 1 belesky, 1 hayes, and 1 spooner

to me this poll wont return any useful information

 

[LSCII]

The people who are voting for Rask are missing the point, IMO. Rask is certainly a key player and for most of this season, he carried this team. The problem with him is that he's shown a propensity to break down if used too much. Since this is a known outcome of his overuse, it falls on the coaching staff to manage his time, and on Sweeney to find a reliable backup.

Krecji on the other hand is more about desire, effort, and willingness to compete on a lot of nights. To me, that's far more concerning than wearing down from too much playing time.

Chara is what he is. Old. And Bergeron if healthy is always consistent. Backes is overpaid, but that's not on him. That's on Sweeney.

 

[JoeIsAStud]

For me this is pretty easy. Bergeron is and has been the best player on this team for several years.

I expect Bergeron to be the best player on this team.

Once you get past Bergeron then you can talk about whether the expectations are highest for Krejci or Rask, with Marchand right behind

 

[Colt.45Orr]

Marchand is 6.125m and one of our worst playoff performers the last few years.

I have the highest expectations of Rask and I think he is the only guy on that list who has earned his money this year (combining regular season and playoffs).


Over the course of a season, f you give Krejci the wingers that Bergeron has (and give Bergeron the Schallers and Staffords of the world) then Krejci's numbers go up and Bergeron's go down.