OT: HFNYR OT Thread: Now Able to Ignore Threads Again

[The Crypto Guy]

Last OT was shut down due to too many posts....this is the new one and bring good news...we are now able to ignore threads again so they don't show up!

Click the button on the top Right of the thread:

I know a lot of us were asking for this back, especially since we have so many OT threads here...happy ignoring

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[PlamsUnlimited]

This is like the general OT memery thread.

That being said does anyone want to hang out in Central jersey this weekend? Am going down there for the Meigray expo but after that, beer and stuff?

 

[hi]

Lol at merging the forum and then going back to locking threads when they hit 1000 posts. Awful

 

[Doctyl]

Lol at merging the forum and then going back to locking threads when they hit 1000 posts. Awful

Hey we got these nifty new servers

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Lol at merging the forum and then going back to locking threads when they hit 1000 posts. Awful

All the problems of the old forum, combined with the hiccups, and fresh issues from the new forum.

"Let's move away from these servers that crash during the TDL and off-season, and switch to these new servers that crash during the TDL and off-season"

 

[nyr2k2]

Bottom line is that Crave preferred the social aspects of this platform, thinking it would lead to more content generation and in turn more clicks. That has all probably happened. Most of the people we lost after the switch have come back. So, for Crave, it's probably mission accomplished. This forum is probably worth more now than it was.

I think the stuff about better servers and reliability were garbage. Maybe they hoped they'd get better performance, but that wasn't the driving force here.

 

[Mac n Gs]

Just my two cents, but the threads didn’t deviate off topic on the team-related boards. It’s cesspools like the lounge and trade forums that rampantly go off topic because there’s zero substance in a majority of those posts. It’s an incessant pissing match of under/over-valuing of one’s prospects and players.

It helped keep these boards so much cleaner and easy to navigate, and the new ignore functions helped precent disruptingthe flow if someone went off the rails. I hope they fix it in the future, and apply the post limit to specific forums.

 

[Gardner McKay]

Bottom line is that Crave preferred the social aspects of this platform, thinking it would lead to more content generation and in turn more clicks. That has all probably happened. Most of the people we lost after the switch have come back. So, for Crave, it's probably mission accomplished. This forum is probably worth more now than it was.

I think the stuff about better servers and reliability were garbage. Maybe they hoped they'd get better performance, but that wasn't the driving force here.

Exactly. I don't quite know if we are up in content generation & clicks but I do know at the very least we are steadily climbing.

 

[Off Sides]

Just a question if anyone has any info,

Why do long threads crash the boards? I'd think it was just pure traffic that causes the crashes along with all the pictures/embedded stuff/avatars all being requested at once form multiple readers/posters?

Unless when one opens a thread it tries to pre-fetch all the previous pages or something along those lines.

I always assumed that is why there was a 50 limit on how many replies one can see when they open a thread?

Anyway it does not really matter just I'm interested for other reasons.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

I'm experiencing an "ad" that comes up on this website every time I click a new page. I can close it, but it only closes until I click on a new page. I'm not experiencing this for any other website, only this one. I'm wondering if anyone, likely a moderator, can tell me who I should report this to or if there's some type of customer support that will help me solve this issue. Thank You.

 

[nyr2k2]

There's a support forum.

https://hfboards.mandatory.com/forums/support.68/

 

[Hunter Gathers]

My girlfriend and I are in the process of buying a home. This is scary, emotional, frustrating, and exciting all at the same time.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

I'm experiencing an "ad" that comes up on this website every time I click a new page. I can close it, but it only closes until I click on a new page. I'm not experiencing this for any other website, only this one. I'm wondering if anyone, likely a moderator, can tell me who I should report this to or if there's some type of customer support that will help me solve this issue. Thank You.

AdBlock man.

Just a question if anyone has any info,

Why do long threads crash the boards? I'd think it was just pure traffic that causes the crashes along with all the pictures/embedded stuff/avatars all being requested at once form multiple readers/posters?

Unless when one opens a thread it tries to pre-fetch all the previous pages or something along those lines.

I always assumed that is why there was a 50 limit on how many replies one can see when they open a thread?

Anyway it does not really matter just I'm interested for other reasons.

Lol. they don't crash the boards. Mods do that to prevent necrobumps and threads turning into shit shows.

basically so they have to perform less work while the content gets cluterf***ed spread out over multiple threads. makes it very annyoing and difficult to search a thread for something when you have to go through several iterations of it.

 

[nyr2k2]

Lol. they don't crash the boards. Mods do that to prevent necrobumps and threads turning into **** shows.

basically so they have to perform less work while the content gets cluter****ed spread out over multiple threads. makes it very annyoing and difficult to search a thread for something when you have to go through several iterations of it.

That has never been a policy pushed by the moderators. It has always been something communicated to the admins directly from the webmaster, who then turn to the moderators to enforce it. Moderators and admins, during my time as each, were always split on whether it was otherwise necessary or helpful. However, again, it came from webmaster, and I assume it did this time as well.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

That has never been a policy pushed by the moderators. It has always been something communicated to the admins directly from the webmaster, who then turn to the moderators to enforce it. Moderators and admins, during my time as each, were always split on whether it was otherwise necessary or helpful. However, again, it came from webmaster, and I assume it did this time as well.

Is there a specific reason for that? Why wouldn't that limit just be hard-coded into the site in that case?

 

[nyr2k2]

Is there a specific reason for that? Why wouldn't that limit just be hard-coded into the site in that case?

I literally have no answer. It was also explained to us as it placed a "strain on the server" or some shit like that. I'm not a web developer or anything so I have no idea if that's true or not. As for why it wasn't built-in as a restriction, I don't know. It may have been a limitation of vBulletin, what we used to use. That platform always had simple things that you thought should be standard features that weren't. I could only see a fraction of the variables that the webmaster Buffaloed could configure, and I honestly don't remember if that option was or wasn't there. And now with this Xenforo shit, everything seems to be plugin-based. Like, anything that's not stock needs a plugin, like the BB code table and the ignore forum function.

Sorry I have no answers. Even as an admin I never had any answers.

 

[Bob Richards]

I have the answers actually

but you have to send me $5 first

 

[Filthy Dangles]

I literally have no answer. It was also explained to us as it placed a "strain on the server" or some **** like that. I'm not a web developer or anything so I have no idea if that's true or not. As for why it wasn't built-in as a restriction, I don't know. It may have been a limitation of vBulletin, what we used to use. That platform always had simple things that you thought should be standard features that weren't. I could only see a fraction of the variables that the webmaster Buffaloed could configure, and I honestly don't remember if that option was or wasn't there. And now with this Xenforo ****, everything seems to be plugin-based. Like, anything that's not stock needs a plugin, like the BB code table and the ignore forum function.

Sorry I have no answers. Even as an admin I never had any answers.

You'd think 2000 posts consolidated in one thread would be more resource efficient than 2000 posts spread out over 2 threads but I could be wrong.

Closing threads after 1K posts probably kills the discussion and leads to some posters not bothering opening the new thread and maybe responding to someone form the previous thread (where they ahve to find the post and copy the quote from the old to new one) so it actually probably leads to fewer over all posts. So maybe the site incurs less resource usage....but at the same do they lose clicks and ad from posters....

f*** if I know. thanks for the input though.

 

[nyr2k2]

You'd think 2000 posts consolidated in one thread would be more resource efficient than 2000 posts spread out over 2 threads but I could be wrong.

Closing threads after 1K posts probably kills the discussion and leads to some posters not bothering opening the new thread and maybe responding to someone form the previous thread (where they ahve to find the post and copy the quote from the old to new one) so it actually probably leads to fewer over all posts. So maybe the site incurs less resource usage....but at the same do they lose clicks and ad from posters....

**** if I know. thanks for the input though.

Yeah no problem. Plenty of us liked the idea of single, multi-thousand threads because it's just easier to find things in and all that. And it felt like unnecessary work to close down one thread in the middle of an important occurrence just to start a new one. I never really cared either way, but I certainly understood why some moderators were so adamant that not capping threads at 1K was the way to go.

I do remember hearing that one of the problems with implementing the ignore threads function was that that was somehow a really resource-intensive plugin. So maybe the implementation of that led to them going back to 1K caps? Who the f*** knows, as you said.

 

[Gardner McKay]

That has never been a policy pushed by the moderators. It has always been something communicated to the admins directly from the webmaster, who then turn to the moderators to enforce it. Moderators and admins, during my time as each, were always split on whether it was otherwise necessary or helpful. However, again, it came from webmaster, and I assume it did this time as well.

Bingo.

It comes from the admins. We had no problem letting threads get to 5-10k posts once we came over XenForo as this new platform was supposed to fix that. Then we had to go to 2k. Then back to 1k. The only reason I cut them off at 10k because at that point, the conversation had usually wandered wildly off topic and it was a good way to get things back on track.

If I had to guess why (and keep in mind, I know very little), I would guess it has to do with recall. I would assume it is more taxing on the system to have to recall that much info on a regular basis. Having people in random pages of the thread means it has to keep track of the entire thread. Either way, I am fine with 1k posts as long as the site is somewhat usable during busy times.

 

[Trxjw]

Really all comes down to lousy database architecture. Any half-decent cloud service should be able to scale the cluster to support days like the trade deadline.

Plus.. Xenforo still runs on PHP. So there's that.

 

[RangerLifer]

My girlfriend and I are in the process of buying a home. This is scary, emotional, frustrating, and exciting all at the same time.

I remember the days looking at houses back when I bought the house we live in now. After 5 houses a day they all start to look alike. I wonder if it's easier now with all these real estate sites you can look at houses online now. Good luck!

 

[Hunter Gathers]

I remember the days looking at houses back when I bought the house we live in now. After 5 houses a day they all start to look alike. I wonder if it's easier now with all these real estate sites you can look at houses online now. Good luck!

With our area, it's actually hard since half the time the house is already under contract. The big problem is that the sites can't be updated nearly fast enough. It sucks!

 

[East Coast Bias]

My girlfriend and I are in the process of buying a home. This is scary, emotional, frustrating, and exciting all at the same time.

I'm sure you've gotten all the advice you can handle, but I'll throw something else out that I learned during the process a couple years ago (could be obvious to others i guess).

It's a lot easier and cheaper to fix a mess outside than it is inside.

We bought a house my wife said absolutely not to when we first pulled up to look at it. In fact 2 friends had sent us the listing, and based on the pictures we waited a month to even see it. Overgrown backyard, bad landscaping - just generally not well kept outside. The inside was fine with the exception of a couple small things.

I got a new fence, a new patio, cut a ton of trees down, and rented a tiller to fix up the lawn. I'm still doing landscaping upgrades but it's nothing compared to doing major work inside. You could spend 15-20k transforming a disaster backyard into a great area. What's that getting you inside? Prices to upgrade a bathroom or kitchen are insane.

 

[nyr2k2]

I'm sure you've gotten all the advice you can handle, but I'll throw something else out that I learned during the process a couple years ago (could be obvious to others i guess).

It's a lot easier and cheaper to fix a mess outside than it is inside.

We bought a house my wife said absolutely not to when we first pulled up to look at it. In fact 2 friends had sent us the listing, and based on the pictures we waited a month to even see it. Overgrown backyard, bad landscaping - just generally not well kept outside. The inside was fine with the exception of a couple small things.

I got a new fence, a new patio, cut a ton of trees down, and rented a tiller to fix up the lawn. I'm still doing landscaping upgrades but it's nothing compared to doing major work inside. You could spend 15-20k transforming a disaster backyard into a great area. What's that getting you inside? Prices to upgrade a bathroom or kitchen are insane.

This is good advice. Go for the house with the updated interior. f*** the outside. If you're a desk jockey like me, yard work is good exercise.