GDT: HFBoards GDT | 1/7/19

[Fatty McLardy]

The way laviolette chews his gum is annoying. It's like he uses his whole face to chew.

 

[hatterson]

What does the NHL know about logic?

The same league which puts goalies' safety at risk in order to increase scoring also gives coaches multiple tools to decrease it at the same time.

Serious question, how many injuries have happened due to the new equipment rules?

 

[The Macho King]

This Leafs PP does not look good.

 

[Johnny Rifle]

A simple proposition... make the coach challenge the offside call before a goal is scored. It could be a hand signal, anything to make sure the challenge occurs before a goal. If no goal no foul, but if a goal is scored then the play is reviewed and penalties are issued for good goals.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

There should be a time threshold between the missed offside call and the goal which negates an overturn

Why? If you entered the zone illegally it shouldn't be voided just because you managed to keep zone time for x seconds after breaking the rules in the first place to even get in there.

 

[The Macho King]

Not as stupid as your comparable

Where do you draw the line?

You don't, it's a black and white call, keep it simple, or don't have reviewable calls... Which in this day and age, is stupid.

The comparison was fine. Speeding is black and white. You're either doing it or you're not. Doesn't mean any punishment stemming from the objective violation is equitable.

 

[Mass]

This Leafs PP does not look good.

They keep trying that same from the point to the back door guy every time. Perds can sympathize with that kind of repetition.

 

[The Macho King]

Why? If you entered the zone illegally it shouldn't be voided just because you managed to keep zone time for x seconds after breaking the rules in the first place to even get in there.

Make high-sticking calls (and non-calls) reviewable. Make playing the puck outside of the trapezoid reviewable. Make puck over the glass reviewable. Make hooking reviewable. Make tripping reviewable.

blahblahblah

It's stupid.

 

[La Masse]

Leafs PP is way too predictable

 

[Cousin Eddie]

A simple proposition... make the coach challenge the offside call before a goal is scored. It could be a hand signal, anything to make sure the challenge occurs before a goal. If no goal no foul, but if a goal is scored then the play is reviewed and penalties are issued for good goals.

I like this idea. Give like a 10 second grace period after the zone entry for the coach to give a signal.
Gives enough time for the video staff to replay once, maybe twice. if the play is so close that a video staff member can't decide after 10 seconds, there's no way you can get mad at a linesman for getting it wrong in the first place.

Charge a penalty if a challenge is incorrect.

 

[hatterson]

Why? If you entered the zone illegally it shouldn't be voided just because you managed to keep zone time for x seconds after breaking the rules in the first place to even get in there.

The entire point of the offside rule is to prevent cherry picking/a team gaining a clear advantage from being in early. A couple inches one way or another fundamentally doesn't grant that advantage and thus it shouldn't be something worthy or video review.

The comparison was fine. Speeding is black and white. You're either doing it or you're not. Doesn't mean any punishment stemming from the objective violation is equitable.

Even if someone objects to the punishment chosen, you can guarantee people would be going nuts at a cop if he gave them a $20 speeding ticket for 56 in a 55.

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

Preds have been screwed bad on both sides of that rule, effectively getting knocked out of the playoff race on the infamous Duchene offside then losing a vital goal in the SCF with Arvy's skate in the air. Infuriating when you lose out on it, but the rule is black and white and I'd prefer that to making it a judgment call on the part of the refs.

 

[Bounces R Way]

Just get rid of it already. Adds absolutely nothing to the game. You accept all sorts of subjectivity and human error into many of the other calls in a hockey game, why not let the linesman do their job. They should also soften the language of offside but that's another discussion.

 

[bdub24]

We gonna make three pages of whining about the offsides rule?

 

[TheBeastCoast]

It has always been weird to me that the blue line is part of the offensive zone when you are inside the zone....but when you are trying to get into the zone it isn't part of the zone. Just a weird thing that has never made sense to me.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

The entire point of the offside rule is to prevent cherry picking/a team gaining a clear advantage from being in early. A couple inches one way or another fundamentally doesn't grant that advantage and thus it shouldn't be something worthy or video review.
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I completely agree. Absolutely hate offside reviews. I was replying to the nonsense suggestion that if you keep the puck in the zone for a specific period of time that the offside should be voided.

 

[v00d00daddy]

This Leafs PP does not look good.

Agree. No fear of a point shot so pk just collapse and take away cross ice

 

[Mez]

The entire point of the offside rule is to prevent cherry picking/a team gaining a clear advantage from being in early. A couple inches one way or another fundamentally doesn't grant that advantage and thus it shouldn't be something worthy or video review.




Even if someone objects to the punishment chosen, you can guarantee people would be going nuts at a cop if he gave them a $20 speeding ticket for 56 in a 55.

Fully agree. If its only a few inches it doesnt matter.

 

[bdub24]

PK SuBOOOM

 

[Mass]

Tronna represent.

 

[v00d00daddy]

Nashville gets away with a lot of light hand slashes

 

[POVERTY]

I completely agree. Absolutely hate offside reviews. I was replying to the nonsense suggestion that if you keep the puck in the zone for a specific period of time that the offside should be voided.

Statute of limitations

 

[hatterson]

Nashville gets away with a lot of light hand slashes

Matthews got like 3 of them in the zone after the offside. But we wouldn't wanna review that, that'd be crazy.

 

[Kelly]

The comparison was fine. Speeding is black and white. You're either doing it or you're not. Doesn't mean any punishment stemming from the objective violation is equitable.

it was, because if they pulled over everybody that went a mile over the speed limit that would literally be everyone.

Offsides with goals scored are few and far between. I hate the call, but it is what it is. Instead of adding different variables to it, it'd be better to ditch it -- but when you have high definition cameras that can be played on an iPad at ice level I don't see why you would.

How pissed would you be if your team lost the Stanley Cup game on a goal that was scored on an offside? Im glad they get it right, and it's one of the few rules that actually make sense to review.

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

We gonna make three pages of whining about the offsides rule?

The Leafs lost a goal, obviously we are. Strap in for the main board thread soon to pop up.