Prospect Info: HF Mock Draft 19th Overall
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InjuredChoker
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Pulock seem like best pick to me, all things considered.
Would love Lazar, but not sure if the off. upside is there. Perfectly happy with him too, and I know D is jacked but still, Pulock's tools are so intriguing that have to go with him.
Would love Lazar, but not sure if the off. upside is there. Perfectly happy with him too, and I know D is jacked but still, Pulock's tools are so intriguing that have to go with him.
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EspenK
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I could live with Pulock only because it strengthens a deep pool and will help facilitate trades down the line.
We need to build our forward pipeline and I wanted to vote Mantha because of all the good things, size & points but because of negative things I've read I voted for Rychel. who put up 161 pts the last two yrs in 136 games.
We need to build our forward pipeline and I wanted to vote Mantha because of all the good things, size & points but because of negative things I've read I voted for Rychel. who put up 161 pts the last two yrs in 136 games.
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Some great talent still left on the board. Hard not to vote for Pulock, and I've been on Mantha's bandwagon for a while and have recently been warming up to Rychel... but I had to go with Hartman. He's said the men in his family are late bloomers and that he should hit a growth spurt. He plays a big man's game, and if he gets another 2-3 inches on him he could turn into a true power forward.
That said, I was the Caps in our board's mock and wanted to move down to take Laurent Dauphin. I highly recommend doing some research on the kid. He's got skill, he's crafty, and he's got a motor that doesn't stop. Biggest thing for him though is that he's not strong enough, especially in the lower body. If he can put on 25-30 lbs in the next two years, watch out. I think he'll be the steal of the draft if he's developed properly.
Check out his U-18 tournament highlights. I'm not big on highlights that much because they don't tell the whole story, but seriously there is a lot of footage of him at the tournament going hard to the next and slipping away from checks. He is a crafty, crafty player.
That said, I was the Caps in our board's mock and wanted to move down to take Laurent Dauphin. I highly recommend doing some research on the kid. He's got skill, he's crafty, and he's got a motor that doesn't stop. Biggest thing for him though is that he's not strong enough, especially in the lower body. If he can put on 25-30 lbs in the next two years, watch out. I think he'll be the steal of the draft if he's developed properly.
Check out his U-18 tournament highlights. I'm not big on highlights that much because they don't tell the whole story, but seriously there is a lot of footage of him at the tournament going hard to the next and slipping away from checks. He is a crafty, crafty player.
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I was on the fence between Mantha and Pulock, and voted Pulock. I'm surprised that you found the negative reputation for Mantha more legit than the negative reputation for Rychel. I don't know either way but my impression was that Mantha's rep was unjustified and I'm not so sure with Rychel.
Pulock. There are a few good forwards still available, but Pulock is the best talent, IMO, and offers the most value at 19.
EspenK
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Can't recall hearing that much negative about Rychel.
I think the 9 of us who voted for a forward should caucus and throw all our votes behind one guy.
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Can't see Pulock falling this far in the actual draft, but if he does, we'll take him!
Give my nod to Ryan Hartman also ... hope he falls to our next pick. If so, we have had a hell of a first round.
Give my nod to Ryan Hartman also ... hope he falls to our next pick. If so, we have had a hell of a first round.
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georgiabluejacket
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Between Pulock & Hartman for myself as well with Pulock winning out just because I think Hartman will be there at L.A's pick
georgiabluejacket
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I was high on Rychel even after initially hearing the negatives about him(trade debacle, questions on work ethic, diva), but for some reason I'm starting to think they're worst that I first thought
thanks for the participation guys and with the 19th Overall selection the Columbus Blue Jackets Select Ryan Pulock
You guys are in such an awesome position for this tremendous draft.
I think getting Horvat at 14, and then the top D on your board at 19 is the way to go. Then you can go BPA at LAs pick.
I think getting Horvat at 14, and then the top D on your board at 19 is the way to go. Then you can go BPA at LAs pick.
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If a top 10 player somehow drops to us, I would most likely want to take him.
Other than that, I say Mantha. For me it was between him or Rychel. I like Rychel but I feel that Mantha is the better fit for CBJ and will be the better player.
I like Pulock also. However, I doubt he'll be around at 14.
Other than that, I say Mantha. For me it was between him or Rychel. I like Rychel but I feel that Mantha is the better fit for CBJ and will be the better player.
I like Pulock also. However, I doubt he'll be around at 14.
EspenK
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From reading all the scouting reports and mock drafts the one thing that appears certain is there is very little certainty especially outside of the top 4 and for sure outside of the top 8-10.
I think the one thing for sure is that we will have two pretty decent prospects at 14 & 19 should we chose to pick there. 27 looks a bit dicier but a few of the reports I've looked at lately have name guys still available at 30 and beyond so even there chances are good.
Just wish it would hurry up and get here.
Xoggz22
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From all accounts it appears there is a clear top 7 in this draft.
Jones
McKinnon
Drouin
Barkov
Nichushkin
Lindholm
Monahan
Some could make the argument it's a top 8 and include Nurse. After watching the SC playoffs it's obvious having solid top level shut down defensemen with skating ability can significantly help a team.
Beyond this it gets really muddy. If CBJ were to move up I would be happy with any of the above (not Nurse for the CBJ in the top 7). The next group is widely varied and the depth continues to look very good. Don't like to wish my life away but I'm with others who wish June 30 would get here...then slow down.
Jones
McKinnon
Drouin
Barkov
Nichushkin
Lindholm
Monahan
Some could make the argument it's a top 8 and include Nurse. After watching the SC playoffs it's obvious having solid top level shut down defensemen with skating ability can significantly help a team.
Beyond this it gets really muddy. If CBJ were to move up I would be happy with any of the above (not Nurse for the CBJ in the top 7). The next group is widely varied and the depth continues to look very good. Don't like to wish my life away but I'm with others who wish June 30 would get here...then slow down.
Sore Loser
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From all accounts it appears there is a clear top 7 in this draft.
Jones
McKinnon
Drouin
Barkov
Nichushkin
Lindholm
Monahan
Some could make the argument it's a top 8 and include Nurse. After watching the SC playoffs it's obvious having solid top level shut down defensemen with skating ability can significantly help a team.
Beyond this it gets really muddy. If CBJ were to move up I would be happy with any of the above (not Nurse for the CBJ in the top 7). The next group is widely varied and the depth continues to look very good. Don't like to wish my life away but I'm with others who wish June 30 would get here...then slow down.
After the first two, there are some question marks with the other five ... as is the case in any draft. While they all look like good bets to pan out, there is still the possibility that a player taken 14th is better than one or all of them.
Xoggz22
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I should have qualified this. My point was that I think this is the likely consensus of top players. By "muddy" I meant more that the lists begin to vary wildly after this group. I do agree that I think McKinnon and Jones seem to be the consensus top 2 and both project very, very high! If CBJ moves up, it's one of these 7 I would be looking to move up for....
Sore Loser
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I think a lot of people are about the same up until about 10 or 12 ... then you see it really start to vary. You are right about the top-7, but there's that next tier of guys that includes Nurse, Zadorov, and maybe Shinkaruk, Pulock, and Domi. Personally, I even have Nurse ahead of Monahan, because solid defenders are so hard to come by.
The only way I want to move up is if the cost is right. I'd love to land Elias Lindholm, at 5 or 6, but if we have to give up more than a couple of picks to do it, I'd be against it.
