HF Draft X Rd 1: JackSlater vs Kaner9

Which card do you prefer?

  • JackSlater

    Votes: 11 68.8%
  • Kaner9

    Votes: 5 31.3%

  • Total voters
    16
  • Poll closed .

HandsomeHollywood

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JackSlater Promotions, in association with Florida Man Wrestling, is pleased to present the much awaited event of the summer... SUMMERFEST 34

SUMMERFEST 34 Official Theme


Florida Man Wrestling Official Theme


JackSlater Promotions President: Angelo Poffo

Florida Man Wrestling President: Jim Hurd

Florida Man Wrestling CFO: Ted DiBiase jr.

Ring Announcer: Joel Gertner

Backstage Interviewer: Caylee Turner

Merchandise Table: Virgil

Event Card


Florida Man Wrestling Buy In (Optional Pre-Show)


Mud Match (ongoing throughout the show): Dawn Marie vs. Sunny vs. Missy Hyatt vs. The Kat vs. Robin “Jailbait” Lane vs. Kimona Wanalaya vs. Sapphire vs. Peaches vs. Kamille (With Tony Atlas) vs. Tracy Brooks vs. Major Gunns

* Special Guest Referee: “Gigolo” Jimmy Del Ray

*Special Guest Enforcer: “Playboy” Buddy Rose


Art Barr
vs. Nigel McGuinness


Segregation Match: Jim Neidhart (with The Klanimal and Colonel DeBeers) vs. Junkyard Dog

*Each wrestler can only pin the other on his own half of the ring

*JYD must work in DeBeers’ diamond mine should he lose. The Klanimal must “go for a ride on the big hog” with JYD should he win.


Rick Steiner vs. Adrian Adonis (with Matt “Doink” Borne)



SUMMERFEST 34


1. Alberto Del Rio vs. El Generico


2. Intercontinental Championship Match: mm-Rtěll (Champion and formerly Rick Martel, with mån.sôör, ma.çé, Maryse, and Maxxine) vs. Kota Ibushi

* Ibushi must join Maximum Male Models and change his name to Mikey if he loses.


3. Kanyon vs. Stan Hansen vs. Mike Awesome


4. Florida Man Hardcore Match: The Sheik vs. Abdullah the Butcher vs. The Sandman vs. Jay White vs. Matt Hardy V 2.0 vs. Kevin Sullivan vs. Pampiro Firpo vs. Jos LeDuc vs. Joey Ryan vs. “Legless” Dustin Thomas vs. Joey Janela vs. Gypsy Joe


5. Ricky Johnson (Formerly Ricky Starks, with Ava Raine Johnson) vs. Tully Blanchard (with Velveteen Dream, Doug Gilbert, and Heidenreich)


6. Goldberg vs. Baron von Raschke (with Fritz von Erich)


7. Ass Kicking Contest: MJF vs. Kerry von Erich (with Zach Gowen)
Ass Kicking Contest Rules - First man to kick the ass of the other in each corner of the ring is declared the winner.


8. Tag Team Championship TLC Match: The Young Bucks (Champions, with Vince Russo) vs. World’s Greatest Tag Team vs. The Nasty Boys vs. Airhythmia (Teddy Hart and Jack Evans)


9. Mr. Perfect Curt Hennig vs. Sami Zayn


10. World Heavyweight Championship Match: Randy Savage (Champion, with The Genius) vs. “The Rated XXX Superstar” Edge (With Dawn Marie, Matt Hardy, Gangrel, and Brad Maddox)

Background:
Things have changed at JackSlater Promotions. Class is out and crass is in as the promotion's long time president has been taken to prison. Charges of providing steroids, as alleged by Tammy Sytch, failed to bring him down. In the end it was accusations of sexual harassment by Heidenrich, with Doug Gilbert loudly proclaiming on television that the president was guilty, that brought him down. Long time nemesis Tully Blanchard emerged from prison, ending his days of running his prison ministry, just as a power vacuum seemed to emerge. Blanchard’s plan to take over the promotion was thwarted however as power was handed over to infamous wrestling promoter Angelo “The Miser” Poffo.

Costs have been cut everywhere and the promotion has even sunk so low as to collaborate with Florida Man Wrestling, hoping to draw in some of the old boys club money and take advantage of desperate last minute stunts. FMW CFO Ten DiBiase jr. has been running the finances for both companies, though observers struggle to ascertain how me makes ends meet. A series of borderline outlaw mud shows have commenced as taste and decorum have left the promotion and unprofessional debauchery have replaced them. Anything that sells in the short term is welcome and for now the lowest common denominator rules the roost in JSP.



Florida Man Wrestling Buy In (optional pre-show)

Mud Match (ongoing throughout the show): Dawn Marie vs. Sunny vs. Missy Hyatt vs. The Kat vs. Robin “Jailbait” Lane vs. Kimona Wanalaya vs. Sapphire vs. Peaches vs. Kamille (With Tony Atlas) vs. Tracy Brooks vs. Major Gunns

* Special Guest Referee: “Gigolo” Jimmy Del Ray

*Special Guest Enforcer: “Playboy” Buddy Rose

The brain trust, term used very loosely, of Florida Man Wrestling believes that it knows what sells – cheap women wrestling in the muck. As such, for the duration of the show a mud wrestling match will be taking place among all of the lovely ladies of FMW. Good idea sure to generate interest? Will the girls be able to mud wrestle for the whole show without getting gassed? Will the Gigolo or the Playboy have a heart attack or avoid a lawsuit? Tune in to find out. Couldn’t think anything less of you already.



Art Barr vs. Nigel McGuinness

The FMW brain trust again had a brilliant idea – two indy darlings taking each other on to appease the online fans. Has Barr cleaned up his act? Will hooligan McGuinness stood to the depths typical of FMW? Tune in to find out.



Segregation Match: Jim Neidhart (with The Klanimal and Colonel DeBeers) vs. Junkyard Dog

*Each wrestler can only pin the other on his own half of the ring

*JYD must work in DeBeers’ diamond mine should he lose. The Klanimal must “go for a ride on the big hog” with JYD should he win.

As we all know, good taste has no place in the wrestling mind of a Florida Man. Junkyard Dog, FMW’s most popular wrestler, has been targeted by Colonel DeBeers to work in his diamond mine in South Africa. He became even more obsessed with this idea when JYD took it upon himself to strip the white robe from The Klanimal, revealed to be Jaime Pressly, and liked what he saw. A white robed thug, Jim Neidhart, was brought in to defend DeBeers’ interests and The Klanimal’s honour. JYD has been getting the best of his adversaries on a weekly basis, dishing out severe beatings and the occasional spanking, however will his luck run out? Tune in to find out.

Rick Steiner (with Alex) vs. Adrian Adonis (with Matt “Doink” Borne)

Simple Rick Steiner has emerged as one of the few FMW wrestlers to become a fan favourite. Many considered it distasteful to have a man as mentally limited as Steiner as an active wrestler, however after getting cleared to wrestle, provided he has his headgear, Steiner has acquitted himself well. With nearly unmatched power and a strong base in freestyle wrestling, Steiner proved to be a star under the tutelage of Kevin Sullivan. Things changed when a jealous Sullivan attacked Steiner with pen ink, leaving Steiner with only Alex, his trusty hand puppet, to guide him. Steiner continued to endear himself to the crowd when he attracted to attention of Borne Again, a man obsessed with ridding wrestlers of ridiculous characteristics. Having, for the most part, eliminated Doink from his mind, he has also gotten Adrian Adonis to, mostly, drop the flowery motif and go back to his hard hitting big-city ways. He has also gotten Art Barr, after having his drunken breakdowns after losing the tag titles at Sumerfest 33, to drop most elements of his Juicer persona. Fans have wondered whether Steiner will keep his persona and remain an FMW favourite or whether he would be better off as a more serious wrestler with full mental capacity and move on to JackSlater Promotions.



Main Card

In lieu of a musical montage, official welcome from Angelo Poffo, Jim Hurd, Ted DiBiase jr. as well as in depth directions to Virgil's merchandise stand.

1. Alberto Del Rio vs. El Generico

El Generico has returned after years away, once again donning his mask and cape to fight for good. Noted philanthropist Alberto Del Rio initially took JackSlater Promotions by storm, after coming over from Floida Man Wrestling, with his class and charisma. However cracks began appearing in his façade. Del Rio was caught splooging on titles, as he often had been encouraged to do in FMW, and wrestling with suspicious white powder on his face. Angelo Poffo, happy to take Del Rio’s money as suggested by DiBiase,, has consistently looked the other way, however a vignette filmed from one of Del Rio’s palatial Mexican compounds has drawn much attention. The orphans that Del Rio claims to have sponsored and given purpose to appear to be working in a shady factory, producing what Del Rio calls his patented Patron Snow Cones. Soon after, seemingly to defend the orphans, El Generico emerged to consistently tamper with Del Rio’s plans. A match has been set with Del Rio finally going face to mask with the fan favourite, the mysterious but heroic El Generico. Ole!

Backstage interview: MJF

2. Intercontinental Championship Match: mm-Rtěll (formerly Rick Martel and also Intercontinental Champion, with mån.sôör, ma.çé, Maryse, and Maxxine) vs. Kota Ibushi

*Ibushi must join Maximum Male Models if he loses


The Maximum Male Models have been riding high under the leadership of the former Rick Martel. Endorsements are rolling in, online fan engagement (only with lady fans, they swear) is proving lucrative, sales of Arrogance have picked up, and even a title has been worked into Martel’s wardrobe. mm-Rtěll, wearing the intercontinental title, now fashioned as a skinny Gucci style belt, has recognized a flaw in the group’s plan for global dominance. The Maximum Male Models thought that they had every major ethnic group covered – Swarthy, Ebony, and Tanned – before becoming aware of the newest global sensation: K-Pop. mm-Rtěll found the perfect man for the job in Kota Ibushi, though his Japanese citizenship has not seemed to register with the leader of the group. mm-Rtěll’s offer, given through managers Maryse and Maxxine, was spurned by a confused Ibushi, leading the group to brutally strike back by sinking to lows up to and including dumping out all of Ibushi’s expensive Japanese shampoo. Fed up, Ibushi choked mm-Rtěll with his own skinny title belt and squirting the other models in the face with Arrogance, temporarily blinding them and throwing off their acid cleansing regimes.

A match has been set – Ibushi is challenging mm-Rtěll for the title. mm-Rtěll’s request that it be a no blows to the face match has been denied as Angelo Poffo refused to pay for the extra ink on the flyers to promote the match. It will be a title and some peace if Ibush wins, however he will have to join the Maximum Male Models and be re-christened as “Mikey” should he be defeated.



3. Kanyon vs. Stan Hansen vs. Mike Awesome

Often disregarded by fans despite his charisma and hard hitting wrestling moves, Kanyon eventually fell under the sway of Stan Hansen after the big Texan saved Kanyon from a beating at the hands of Abdullah the Butcher. Lacking confidence, Kanyon generally did whatever Hansen desired, despite how abusive Hansen seemed to become. Beatings became increasingly worse until Hansen even branded Kanyon’s ass on television. When Kanyon protested that livestock gets branded, Hansen informed him that that’s what he is – Hansen’s livestock, boy. Something snapped in Kanyon as he began appearing strung out at JackSlater Promotions shows, enraging old school Hansen, until he threw a chair at Hansen’s face, leaving the big man requiring the use of an eyepatch for months. Hansen would continue attacking the loner Kanyon, sometimes on his own and sometimes with cronies from the Texas wrestling scene, however Kanyon did manage to turn the tables on him once in a backstage gym and do an unspeakable act off camera on Hansen’s face, necessitating a mustache shave.

Kanyon came to require backup after using his fingernails to maim another Hansen crony, and Mike Awesome emerged to fill the void. Kanyon bulked up and added even more Awesome-style intensity to his matches as Hansen, or “asswipe” as Kanyon began calling him, seemed wary of messing with his “livestock”. Things changed during a cage match between Kanyon and Hansen when Awesome entered the ring and revealed the truth – he was Hansen’s protégé before arriving in JSP. The two would team up to break Kanyon’s neck in brutal fashion. Cameras checked in on Kanyons recovery for months as Awesome seemed to show remorse for his actions, begging for forgiveness du to his tremendous guilt and even taking it upon himself to attack Hansen. Kanyon has refused all aid from Awesome and claims that once he is finished with Hansen he will decimate Awesome. Things became so heated that Hansen attacked and incapacitated his own son when Kanyon began to take him under his wing in order to rile up his tormentor. Awesome, with his increasingly reckless wrestling style, swears to help Kanyon in his goals whether “Chris” appreciates it or not. Hansen, fuming mad like a bull seeing red, has openly stated that he’s going to finish the job on Kanyon and make Awesome remember whose boy he is.



4. Florida Man Hardcore Match: The Sheik vs. Abdullah the Butcher vs. The Sandman vs. Jay White vs. Matt Hardy V 2.0 vs. Kevin Sullivan vs. Pampiro Firpo vs. Jos LeDuc vs. Joey Ryan vs. “Legless” Dustin Thomas vs. Joey Janela vs. Gypsy Joe

Florida Man Wrestling is contributing further to Summerfest by contributing several of its originator’s favourites in this match where anything goes. Masters of the fireball, a knife pervert, criminal perverts, an axe wielding maniac, a legless man, a blowhard, whatever the f*** Joey Janela is, a hobo, a demon, and more. Surely the fans will be thoroughly entertained as this match draws countless eyeballs.

Backstage interview: Ricky Johnson

5. Ricky Johnson (Formerly Ricky Starks, with Ava Raine Johnson) vs Tully Blanchard (with Velveteen Dream, Doug Gilbert, and Heidenreich)

Ricky Starks always imagined he was headed for the top of the card and he was not shy about telling everyone about it. With his electrifying cadence elastic eyebrow, silky unbuttoned shirts, leather shoes, familiar tone, and general swagger, Starks felt that he was well on his way to becoming the champion of the people. Others felt that Starks was a pale imitation of former JackSlater Promotions champion The Rock. Eyebrows were further raised when Starks had a sudden, live wedding to Ava Raine, daughter of Starks’ wrestling hero, after what many people termed love bombing. After changing his name to Ricky Johnson, the boos to which Ricky had become accustomed became more harsh. Chants of “Die Ricky Die” rang throughout bingo halls and high school gymnasiums as JSP toured. No matter how many times Ava Raine screamed at the crowd that “Ricky doesn’t suck!” the negativity only got worse. Ricky’s failed attempt to make the CFL, instantly being cut, and his direct to Tubi film debut in Tooth Fairy 3 did not help matters.

Things came to a head when Tully Blanchard returned from prison to JSP with some of his prison ministry minions. Laughing at Ricky and saying that he’s much more pebble than Rock, or even more derisively calling him “Fruity Pebble” with a wink, things culminated with Blanchard and his ministry whipping Ricky with a belt, like he was a little boy. To the surprise of all, Ricky would not stay down. He rose every time. He has told Blanchard that he takes his job, his name, and the legacy he hopes to inherit very seriously even if no one else does. He’s proud of his family even if his family is not proud of him. He will stand up for himself, his wife, and even for the people who call for his death every week. If the slobs in the audience are jealous of a man who knows how to dress and look good, speak with confidence, and who wants to entertain, then they can kiss his candy ass. Now ignoring the fans while still maintaining his previous attire, Starks has let everyone know that he won’t take this shit anymore.



6. Goldberg vs Baron von Raschke (with Fritz von Erich)

Goldberg is on the finest streak that JSP has ever seen, stacking up wins at a rate that has infuriated online smarks who are desperately trying to track his progress. Now one thing stands in his way – Baron von Raschke, supposed nazi and legendary FMW villain. The Baron, along with nazi pal Fritz von Erich, has heard the chatter surrounding this match but is defiant – he does not care for squash, despite the crowd chanting it at him, but his iron claw is more than capable of crushing one. Goldberg has not commented on the match, clearly not caring for cape twirling or goose stepping, but instead plainly asked “who’s next?”



7. Ass Kicking Contest: MJF vs. Kerry von Erich (with Zach Gowen)

Few have taken to the relative lawlessness of the new JackSlater Promotions as well as former Florida Man Wrestling star Maxwell Jacob Friedman. Free to pursue all vices and be as crass as he wants, MJF has been a constant thorn in the side of many. This is especially true of one Zach Gowen, whom MJF has targeted relentlessly since first seeing the one legged man wrestle as he himself passed out laughing. One legged Boston Crabs hounded Gowen, as did leg sweeps, tosses down the stairs, Upon Gowen once gaining the upper hand by costing MJF a match via interference with his missile dropkick, MJF delivered a solemn promo in which he promised to do the thing he’s always dreamed of but never done– taking on a one legged man in an ass kicking contest. So it came to pass that MJF boldly stood in the ring, contract already signed, to face his one legged opponent. While Zach Gowen did emerge from behind the curtain, he did not hop down to the ring. MJF would face a different opponent – The Modern Day Warrior Kerry von Erich, who stunned both MJF and the audience by revealing that he has been wrestling in a prosthetic. Putting his days of riding high and banging the greasy JSP rats behind him, at least temporarily, Kerry von Erich appeared focused and relatively clean. The contract signed, after a terrified MJF fled the ring and left the paper on the mat, the world will now know how MJF handles himself in an ass kicking contest against a one legged man.

Backstage interview: The Young Bucks with Vince Russo

8. Tag Team Championship TLC Match: The Young Bucks (Champions, with Vince Russo) vs. World’s Greatest Tag Team vs. The Nasty Boys vs. Airhythmia (Teddy Hart and Jack Evans)

The lawlessness and tackiness of the new JackSlater Promotions has allowed The Young Bucks to climb the ladder in the promotion. Under the previous leadership they tended to be squashed fairly regularly by wrestlers who generally seemed tougher, more serious, even more professional. Goofy bullshit was stepped on and wrestlers defended their own finishers. However times have changed and the Young Bucks no longer need to pick Nasty armpit hair out of their teeth or desperately show the boys the praise they get in the rag sheets. As the Young Bucks have gained influence however, they have begun pushing their own weight around.

They have taken issue with the name of The World’s Greatest Tag Team, as they feel that their online accolades and rag sheet praise make them the best automatically. They are also angry with The Nasty Boys, their former backstage bullies, who live a lifestyle at odds with the evangelical Young Bucks, now comfortable enough to express and pontificate on their faith, Cucamonga style. They are especially horrified by Airythmia, FMW superstars Teddy Hart and Jack Evans, who lead an offensive lifestyle and perform even more asinine maneuvers than even the Young Bucks imagined. Even the Young Bucks have complained about Hart and Evans’ lack of professionalism, though no one seems to care. Fortunately another evangelical Christian with a disregard for professionalism in wrestling, Vince Russo, has joined forces with the Young Bucks as they’ve politicked their way to the top. Russo and The Bucks want some more ink in the sheets, plus they want to work as close to god as possible, and thus they have campaigned for a TLC match for the title.

In the end, Poffo has rented some ladders, chairs, and tables from Home Depot and a TLC match is going to take place.

Backstage interviews: Sami Zayn and Curt Hennig

9. Mr. Perfect Curt Hennig vs. Sami Zayn



Even at a low point, nearly crashing airplanes an pulling pranks that many have deemed quite malicious, Curt Hennig still manages to project a perfect, if also seedy, image. It has driven JackSlater Promotions’ guerrilla filmmaker Sami Zayn to the brink of madness as he has attempted to find footage of the man who is “Proud to be Perfect” at anything less than perfect, especially since he dfeated Zayn’s best friend at Summerfest 30. Every towel toss, every gum slam, every jam session with his Perfect Friend Savage, has been perfect whenever Zayn records, leading to much hair pulling and wild gesticulating. Zayn has chastised the fans that Hennig sets an unrealistic standard – no one can be perfect, and it’s even worse when someone lets himself go and retains his “perfect” abilities. Perfect has not wilted from the pressure, instead openly encouraging Zayn to follow him in his pursuit of imperfection, somewhat endearing JSP fans to him as a new side of the somewhat down on his luck Hennig emerges. JSPs resident truth teller has become further enraged as images of Hennig occasionally struggling as he fights substance and health issues have warmed fans to the arrogant superstar. Zayn has continued to tell the fans that he is doing this for their own good and their own mental health. He has continually declared that Hennig is NOT perfect and that he “is not who he says he is”. Zayn claims that he is the only JSP wrestler who is exactly who he claims to be and that at Summerfest he will prove, though his glorious victory, that while Curt Hennig is active in JackSlater Promotions, Mr. Perfect is long gone.

Backstage Interviews: Randy Savage and Edge

10. World Heavyweight Championship Match: Randy Savage (Champion, with The Genius) vs. “The Rated XXX Superstar” Edge (With Dawn Marie, Gangrel, Matt Hardy, and Brad Maddox)

The pressure of carrying JackSlater Promotions for his father has caused Randy Savage to crack it seems. Savage in behaviour as well as name, he is a far cry from the former JSP champion from Summerfest 29. Thinner and reduced to stealing steaks from grocery stores in his waistband, voice rising and falling unpredictably, stringy blonde hair, endlessly having to protect The Genius from severe beatings – not the Savage that fans are accustomed to but one who has managed to show up for JSP time and again. Paranoid and erratic Savage has continued thanklessly carrying the title as even his father conspires to cost him the title through overwork and misery compensation.

Edge on the other hand is enjoying life in the new JackSlater Promotions. Edge, or Sexton Hardcastle as he is known in Japan, has found a way to make the cash-strapped promotion money, leaving him in a position of power. Using his fame in Japan stemming from his series of shampoo commercials, The “Rated XXX Superstar” has built an online empire, having LIVE sex celebrations on the INTERNET while selling his special shampoo plus used items from FMW’s lady wrestlers in vending machines in Japan. With his special director Gangrel, his manservant, uplifted from homelessness, Matt Hardy V2.0, his personal cameraman Brad Maddox, and his “vixen and costar” Dawn Marie Edge plans to take the title in a reign of decadence. Having already taken Savage’s girl and ruined her, plus refusing to give her back, Edge now plans to have it all by shamelessly taking the one thing giving Savage purpose.


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Kaner9:
STEEL CAGE MATCH Eddie Guerrero vs Walter

Andrade and Charlotte vs HHH and Stephanie McMahon

Samoa Joe vs Jake The Snake Roberts

The New Day – Xavier Woods Kofi Kingston and Big E vs The Midnight Express – Bobby Eaton Stan Lane and Dennis Condrey

Sid Justice vs Samoa Joe

Jeff Hardy vs Darby Allin vs Buddy Matthews

KENTA vs Kawada

Goldust vs Dalton Castle
 

JackSlater

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I voted for my own card obviously, though I am lukewarm on it. I found it hard to fill in the blanks on several things that I hadn't planned out well in advance. As such the main event angle is basically nothing (I wanted ICW outlaw Savage vs. scumbag Edge) and the tag angle is weak. I think that the matchups are mainly fine. I obviously took inspiration from another GM for parts of the show. Mainly glad that I was able to do a simple angle I've wanted to do for years.

Kaner9 - Looks good in ring. I'm somewhat surprised by Samoa Joe pulling double duty with no explanation. Overall I would just like to see something to provide some context for what is going on. For example Goldust vs Castle could be easy fun. It is a show that would still be worth seeing but I'd like to see more. Strength to me is probably the very strong main event as well as some decent variety with the multi-man matches.
 
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branimal84

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I voted for JackSlater. It's really hard to compare the two, if I'm being honest. Kaner9's card has a few great bouts (Eddie Guerrero v. WALTER would be awesome to see), but there's no background or explanation for any of the matches; there isn't even a name for the show.

I understand it's a personal choice whether or not to expand upon your matches, but seeing things like an incredible MJF/Kerry Von Erich backstory and the "segregation match" on JackSlater's card left me blown away with the levels of creativity.
 
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Habsrule

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I went with Kaner but it was a close one.

Can either of you explain who Samoa Joe and Sami Zayn / El Generico pulled double duty? I’m not against it but just seeing if their was a storyline between them.
 
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JackSlater

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I went with Kaner but it was a close one.

Can either of you explain who Samoa Joe and Sami Zayn / El Generico pulled double duty? I’m not against it but just seeing if their was a storyline between them.
Zayn is a heel and explicitly accusing Hennig of not being who he says he is. He's a crazy hypocrite though. Zayn sees himself as a face however and tries to help people, and as noted El Generico, pure whitemeat babyface, has suddenly re-emerged.
 

JackSlater

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I voted for JackSlater. It's really hard to compare the two, if I'm being honest. Kaner9's card has a few great bouts (Eddie Guerrero v. WALTER would be awesome to see), but there's no background or explanation for any of the matches; there isn't even a name for the show.

I understand it's a personal choice whether or not to expand upon your matches, but seeing things like an incredible MJF/Kerry Von Erich backstory and the "segregation match" on JackSlater's card left me blown away with the levels of creativity.
I completely stole the segregation match from one of Jericho's books. I just threw the match in there because I wanted to use cartoonish heel Colonel DeBeers.
 

GKJ

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The double character thing is something I’ve always wanted to do but couldn’t find the mind for it.
 

les Habs

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@JackSlater Per usual your creativity is off the charts and I appreciate it even if some of it might not resonate with me. Examples of what did though, and largely most of it did even if I'm not mentioning it, a match that's constantly in the background, MJF's portion of the one-legged thing, Japanese shampoo sponsorship for a guy like Edge and more.

@Kaner9 As others have noted, I'd really like more background in some instances and am curious as to Samoa Joe on twice. That said I think without it your card is still pretty straightforward. I think you did a really good job of putting together matches that look thought out and not like you're piecing together a card with guys that randomly picked, and I want to stress this. So well done.

I will say for me that this was a lot closer than it might pan out and I'm honestly torn, but went with Jack in the end. Still have to stress that Kaner's card looks well put together and thought out for a draft when you consider it top to bottom.
 
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NextBigThing

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I don’t care about storylines or work rate. I care about star power. So JackSlater gets my vote. Eddie Guerrero (one of the lowest drawing WWE champions of all time) being in the top match really hurts the card.
 
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les Habs

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I don’t care about storylines or work rate. I care about star power. So JackSlater gets my vote. Eddie Guerrero (one of the lowest drawing WWE champions of all time) being in the top match really hurts the card.

I should keep my mouth shut for an obvious reason, but I have some time to kill. To each their own about what card would interest them and how they vote. However, in these drafts Eddie Guerrero consistently gets picked ahead of other wrestlers with more "star power" and with a history of higher draws. In my experience he's also very fondly remembered for his career both from an in-ring and out of the ring standpoint. On top of that, the simple math of a draft like this likely puts him at the top end of a card and probably in the main event most years. You also have to remember that one of the unwritten rules for some of us is that a match should not have already taken place either in real life or on a previous draft card, so that starts to limit things to a degree. Call me biased as he's probably top 10 and if not surely top 20 for me all time (and I have yet to ever draft him), but I would never vote against a card simply because Eddie Guerrero is in the main event much less because in real life he was a low draw for the WWE. Assuming he was indeed a low draw that just tells me that in part the fans back then just had bad taste.
 
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NextBigThing

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I should keep my mouth shut for an obvious reason, but I have some time to kill. To each their own about what card would interest them and how they vote. However, in these drafts Eddie Guerrero consistently gets picked ahead of other wrestlers with more "star power" and with a history of higher draws. In my experience he's also very fondly remembered for his career both from an in-ring and out of the ring standpoint. On top of that, the simple math of a draft like this likely puts him at the top end of a card and probably in the main event most years. You also have to remember that one of the unwritten rules for some of us is that a match should not have already taken place either in real life or on a previous draft card, so that starts to limit things to a degree. Call me biased as he's probably top 10 and if not surely top 20 for me all time (and I have yet to ever draft him), but I would never vote against a card simply because Eddie Guerrero is in the main event much less because in real life he was a low draw for the WWE. Assuming he was indeed a low draw that just tells me that in part the fans back then just had bad taste.
I respect your opinion, but it is my vote. Eddie wouldn’t even sniff my top 50 as I rank on star power and drawing ability.
 

Megahab

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I respect your opinion, but it is my vote. Eddie wouldn’t even sniff my top 50 as I rank on star power and drawing ability.
Why not just rank on who you like? Do you actually dislike certain wrestlers just because other people aren't paying to watch them? That's so weird. It's like not watching a TV show because their ratings aren't high.
 

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Buddy, I just totally zoned out thinkin about that that Ass Kickin' contest. Of course it ends with the hand swinging the foot to the arse, but who's getting who and how it got there is up to whoever! That's an old school Wrestlemania match if I ever saw one LOL
 

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Lmao I used Samoa Joe twice on accident. I was gonna pick someone else in free agent time and didn't. I shoulda gave a name to my show to my bad there. IMO still a lotta good matches there but I like both cards. I like my main event best of any I seen so far and I like my tag matches and high flying.

Good cards everybody :thumbu:
 

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Gotta go JackSlater here, who should be getting some sort of achievement award for churning out consistently great shows every year in this thing. A lot of elements of the Florida Man Buy-In cracked me up, including it's very existence. The booking of Art Barr vs Nigel McGuinness in particular tickled me.
Always creative and envelope-pushing with a great angle between Von Erich and MJF. One of your weaker main events but the rest of the show more than makes up for it.

Kaner9, while someone who's never been big on providing details, also gives some good stuff here. I think New Day vs Midnight would have potential to steal any show, Joe vs Roberts is probably a sneakily great match in-ring and on promos, and the main event of Eddie vs Walter would be great from bell to bell.

Good start.
 

BruinDust

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Kaner9 - You had some interesting match-ups, but I've knocked a few cards now for giving me matches that I can very easily potential still see. Hardy - Darby - Matthews could happen at any time. I like the similarity of Castle vs. Goldust but AEW could give us Castle vs. Dustin Rhodes. Loved Sid vs. Joe. Would be a physical, believable match. New Day vs. Midnight Express are certainly a dream tag team match even if I've never been a big fan of either team (wasn't really exposed to Midnight's prime). I really like HHH/Steph vs. Charlotte/Andrade and the interesting match-up of the main event level male on one side and the main event level female on the other, which I'm not sure has really been done before. I like ideas like that. Original and believable.

Eddie is a strange one for me. In-ring work-rate wise he's one of the best in-ring workers of all-time. But he's a guy I'd have a hard time building a card's main event around if I'm envisioning a large stadium in front of 60-70 thousand, whether it be this draft or in real life. As the 2nd biggest match I can see it, not my true main event. But that's personal preference.
 

BruinDust

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JackSlater - A very strong card again this year. Lots of unique ideas that are totally fresh and original. Segregation matches. The Ass-kicking contest. Good stuff.

I like using Zayn in both his masked and unmasked characters. Although I can't stand Del Rio.

The mm-Rtell with Maximum Male Models was great. I liked how you got Gypsy Joe into a match. I had thoughts about drafting him this year. Surprised you never had something more for Jay White.

The Ricky Johnson (Starks) with Rock's daughter makes a lot of sense, as he's been compared to Dwayne in his look and mannerisms I like how you tied it together

The tag team match did nothing for me personally. Neither team I am a fan of.

Any card with Goldberg and Mr. Perfect Curt Henning will usually get high marks for me.

You have maybe the best main event of the draft this year. I think Savage and Edge could put on a hell of a show. Your top 3 singles matches (Savage/Edge, Henning/Zayn, and MJF/Von Erich are pretty strong.

As with most years, you have the most creative and detailed storylines and they come with their own flavor that feels nothing like what we've seen on TV or a throwback to any era, but a take on pro wrestling all its own.
 

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JackSlater - A very strong card again this year. Lots of unique ideas that are totally fresh and original. Segregation matches. The Ass-kicking contest. Good stuff.

I like using Zayn in both his masked and unmasked characters. Although I can't stand Del Rio.

The mm-Rtell with Maximum Male Models was great. I liked how you got Gypsy Joe into a match. I had thoughts about drafting him this year. Surprised you never had something more for Jay White.

The Ricky Johnson (Starks) with Rock's daughter makes a lot of sense, as he's been compared to Dwayne in his look and mannerisms I like how you tied it together

The tag team match did nothing for me personally. Neither team I am a fan of.

Any card with Goldberg and Mr. Perfect Curt Henning will usually get high marks for me.

You have maybe the best main event of the draft this year. I think Savage and Edge could put on a hell of a show. Your top 3 singles matches (Savage/Edge, Henning/Zayn, and MJF/Von Erich are pretty strong.

As with most years, you have the most creative and detailed storylines and they come with their own flavor that feels nothing like what we've seen on TV or a throwback to any era, but a take on pro wrestling all its own.
I'm happy with how the Rick Martel angle came out. Jay White and Matt Hardy are situations where I took two guys because they were there and their ability more than warranted their location in the draft. I figured they could help the battle royal. White is kind of a joke to me honestly so I threw him in that match to be a weirdo. I regret not doing more with Matt Hardy - I really enjoy Matt Hardy V1 and while I called this V2, I couldn't justify doing another angle just so I could make up new Matt facts like "Matt frequently uses a bidet" when I was struggling to conclude my main event. I sort of consider it the loser Matt Hardy who made a fool of himself online in the mid late 2000s talking about ice cold grapes.

In terms of names and in-ring performance I think my main event is just fine. I'm disappointed with it overall though as it didn't accomplish what I wanted. I regret not reaching for the main eventer I really wanted, as I shouldn't have let my high draft pick influence which wrestler I took.

I am happy that someone else at least considered Gypsy Joe.
 
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