If I'm not mistaken, HF Boards just recently updated their forum list to put the Coyotes under the Central Division.
I knew this was happening, but it sure seems odd.
I knew this was happening, but it sure seems odd.
HF Boards Coyotes now in the Central Division
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In a few years, the central division will curse the day we arrived.
...for a different reason than they do now!
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Aside from the Avalanche and maybe Winnipeg and Chicago I see a lot of the Central teams aging out of their best players and not a ton of replacements in the pipeline. The Coyotes have a chance in 3-4 years to jump into the top half of the division and make the playoffs if the tank is really successful (getting a 1C in one of the next two drafts) and the current prospects turn into NHLers. This drastic of a rebuild almost certainly puts them 5+ years away from perennial playoff contention though.
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Even Chicago might decline. They have Kubalik-Dach-DeBrincat but Jones will be 27 in October, and they've really only got one top prospect left in their pool. They really pushed all their chips in to give Kane/Toews a couple of more kicks at the can. Might get ugly after that.
Minnesota is the one that's really tough to figure for me. It seems like Kaprizov REALLY wants to be a UFA. And those Suter/Parise buyouts have landed them in quite the bizarre cap dilemma. Like they have to go hard this season, take a couple of seasons off, and try again later. Haha.
Chicago just sold almost all of their assets. They want another cup in the next three years and will then come crashing down.
Out:
Boqvist
2021 1st
2022 1st
In:
Fluery
Seth Jones (8yr contract.....)
They will potentially run into more goalie issues next season. And from their down years they now only have Dach and Reichle to show for it.
Minnesota is on the riser group to me. They have a great group of young prospects are are really starting to get the most out of their younger players. It feel like they have finally found an identity that is more akin to Dallas than their old trap style of play. Rossi and Boldy haven't hit the team yet, and they manage to hit on players in later rounds or late in the 1st now. Nashville is a little more in-between. They may have their version of Carey Price in Askarov and we know that a goalie of that caliber can keep mediocre teams very competitive, however that may be in 4+ seasons. They may actually start to be bad sooner rather than later and align more closely with our rebuild where they start coming out of a re-tool right when we emerge. Winnipeg is so good at drafting they may be able to continually be competitive and very good for years.
In three years I see the division standings as:
Colorado
Minnesota
Winnipeg
Chicago
St. Louis
Nashville
Dallas
Depending on our drafts and FA moves I think we could sit between Minnesota and St Louis. But agreed, we are entering this division at a decent time. Anaheim, L.A, Seattle could all be emerging from rebuild as we do and be very strong. EDM will always be competitive with McDrai and Vancouver looks to be a tough team for several seasons.
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I had forgotten about Chicago giving up Boqvist recently, which severely hurts their future on the backend as their defense is entirely dependent on the Jones brothers at this point... I still like DeDrincat-Dach-Kubalik, all have shown they can play in the NHL and that could be their 1st line for almost the next decade which is an envious position. If Lankinen turns out to be the real deal, which could be helped by having Fleury as a mentor then they've at least got a 1st line and a goalie of the future but they're definitely gonna have some holes to fill in the future.
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Tripped me the hell up looking for the forum, I was almost ready to think we just got deleted before I remembered the division change 
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Dallas has several good young players in the pipeline. Not saying they're guaranteed to be great, but I feel better about their chances than Chicago's or St Louis'.
Jets were the 8th youngest team in the league last season.
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I liked Dellandrea more than Hayton back in 2018. I think I still do in 2021 - haha. Ugh...
I honestly feel like Dallas' prospect pool is one of 5 I know very little about haha. Will they be enough to supplement an aging Seguin and Benn? Generally the games between AZ and Dallas lately have been miserable to watch as a Yotes fan, so I don't even have a great definition on your current core.
St. Louis is interesting, all indications are that the Faulk contract and aging forwards will make them crumble in a couple years, but they do draft pretty well and Armstrong seems well liked and connected to pull off trades that favor him. Agreed that they could easily be the worst in 2-3 years, or some how pull more diamonds out of their prospect pool and keep it churning.
I beg to differ. Dallas, Chicago, STL and Nashville I think are all going to start declining in a couple years steeply. And with a little draft luck, you never know.
You can't underestimate Kane either. Could easily be a 60+ point producer into his 40's. He just seems like that type of player. I don't think Toews will make it past the next couple of seasons and will go the way of the Getzlaf's of the league. The scary thing is how much money they will throw at the duo when their contracts are due. Do they overpay to keep the band together and keep the lukewarm fans happy, or do they make the right decision and potentially let Toews walk and try to get Kane on a smaller deal. Two more seasons until they both get paid again, I'm sure they are looking at it as two more seasons to get another cup.
Agreed, of course the scary thing is one lotto win and either of those teams will completely refill their prospect pool haha. The top 3 picks of the next two drafts seem good enough to be able to help drag a declining franchise out of the gutter.
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Dellandrea is actually rather maligned by Stars fans. I don't think he's as bad as they make him out to be, but he's hardly the only prospect coming up.
But Jason Robertson and Roope Hintz played well this season. Have Mavrik Borque coming up and looks good. Got Thomas Harley coming in on defense. Benn hasn't really played well in two or three years. Tyler Seguin was out all last year. Neither produced above a second line forward during their cup run. They're a good team defensively and have Jake Oettinger at goalie who looks to be ready to start now. Their main production that's aging out is Joe Pavelski. And at least one of their forwards should pan out.
The Stars could be in a better position. Especially as far as cap space goes, if/when Klingberg gets extended could make a huge difference in that regard. But overall they're okay. Definitely don't see them being bottom of the central in three years. And if they are they won't be a Buffalo/Ducks bottom 3 team in the league.
Anyway, y'all need a goalie? They were throwing around the idea of Khudobin + picks for Kessel at 50% retained on the Stars board. Though we're somewhat concerned with the idea of Phil Kessel surrounded by Texas BBQ.
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It's always bugged me somewhat that we changed names from Phoenix to Arizona and *still* werent listed first in the division because of sodding Anaheim. Looks neater now.
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Glad there will be less 8:30 puck drops.
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