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Uncle Leo
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In light of FishManSam's series of poll's [find the latest one here] I noticed that based on leaf fan's self analysis, which is for obvious reasons biased to some degree, the leaf seem to have the degree of ability to ice a very good blue-line, but not the right combination of personal. Which has lead to years of looking good on paper but not on the ice.

Using the definitions used the poll's

What the poll said?

Elite: Top 5 in their position
1A: 1st line/1st pairing/#1 Goalie
1B: Able to fill in 1st line/1st pairing/Average Starter
2A: 2nd line/2nd pairing/Back-up
2B: Able to fill in 2nd line/2nd pairing/Too good for AHL Starter but not proven
3A: 3rd line/3rd pairing
3B Able to fill in 3rd line/3rd pairing
4A 4th line
4B: Able to fill in 4th line
Scratch: 13th player/7th dman
AHL player: Self explanatory

A strong playoff team will be able to ice...

1A - 1A
2A - 2A
3A - 3A​

With a few spots able to move up or down 1 ranking.

According to the general leafs fan base, our team's defensive core is composed of...

  • Cody Franson 2B
  • Mark Fraser 3A
  • Jake Gardiner 1B
  • Carl Gunnarsson 2B
  • Korbinian Holzer 3A
  • Mike Komisarek 3B
  • Michael Kostka 3B
  • John-Michael Liles 2B
  • Dion Phaneuf 1A

If you map these out based PURELY on ranking with no regard to chemistry, who plays what side.


Phaneuf 1A - Gardiner 1B
Franson 2B - Gunnarsson 2B
Liles 2B - Fraser/Holzer 3A

Comparing that to the ideal playoff defence.

PAR = On Par
x UNDER = Number of rankings below par
x OVER = Number of rankings above par


PAR - 1 UNDER
1 UNDER - 1 UNDER
1 OVER - PAR

Which seems to imply our defence actually isn't that far off from being a playoff level defence.

So What?

Looking at the leafs options going forward on the blue-line a few safe assumptions can be made

  1. Phaneuf will play the 1st pairing, and for the last few years has been playing Left.
  2. Our two best D this season [Franson and Phaneuf] both need a shut down anchor to play with, so will not play together
  3. Gardiner will be playing again with the leafs soon, if not this year, then next.
  4. Gardiner is also an offence first player, who though he could play with Phaneuf or Franson, can use his offensive ability much more freely if also paired with a shut down guy.

Using the above 4 points as strict laws, Phaneuf, Gardiner and Franson will all play on the leafs but will all need to play on different pairings. Ordering them by their value in the poll.


Phaneuf 1A - xxxx
xxxx - Gardiner 1B
Franson 2B - xxxx

With Phaneuf and Franson usually playing left and Gardiner usually playing right, this is how the back bone of our pairs will look.

I propose if we can find a defensive defensemen to match with each of these pairs, then we would have a reasonable playoff level defence.

Luckily we already have 1 of the 3 needed in Fraser. Fraser has shown great chemistry with Franson and plays a very RC brand of hockey. Pairing Fraser with Franson we have...


PAR - xxxx
xxxx - 1 OVER
1 OVER - PAR

Leaving us with the structure of our future blue line. Which has two holes in it.

  • 1A-1B Shut Down D
  • 2A-2B Shut Down D

Looking at the remaining batch...

  • Carl Gunnarsson 2B
  • Korbinian Holzer 3A
  • Mike Komisarek 3B
  • Michael Kostka 3B
  • John-Michael Liles 2B

Then filtering out the 3A/B options since we aren't in need of any more third pairing guys....

  • Carl Gunnarsson 2B
  • John-Michael Liles 2B

We're left with Gunnarsson and JML. Gunnarsson is a fine two-way defensemen and JML is a fine puck mover, but neither are the pieces that we need.

Conclusion

With the additions of a 1st pairing shut down D, 2nd pairing shut down D, sending Holzer to the minors as an emergency call up, letting Kostka go through waivers, Komisarek bought out at the end of the year, and Liles and Gunnarsson traded. We have a high level playoff calibre defence.
 
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It's actually a great analysis and I like the structured thinking you went through. :nod:

Agree with the core pieces being Phaneuf, Gards, Franson, and Fraser being a good fit as the third pairing with Frans. I think GUnnar also fits in just fine and he has been underperforming this year and I think will get back to his normal self.

This really just means we need a first line shut-down defender, and our D will be playoff calibre.

We also, conveniently, need a first line center (maybe Kadri develops into that?)

And we need a first string goalie.

So...three pieces from strong contention :)
 
Interesting analysis.

I like that Franson is finally getting some respect on this team. I hope to see Gardiner up as soon as possible.

I think Fraser has earned his spot, but Holzer/Kostka have to go. Gunnarsson seems to have taken a step back from last year due to his ailing hip injury, but I think he's better than the aforementioned two.

Our D is probably slightly better than average but we allow a ton of shots, having one of the worst shot differentials in the league.
 
Interesting read. Basically he said..

Phaneuf - ??
Gardiner- ??
Fraser - Franson

Trade bait- Liles, Gunnar

I believe we need to give Holzer more time to adjust. He may be able to slot in beside Gardiner with a little more experience.
 
By your analysis you could probably slot gunnarsson beside gardiner so really the key is to get another top pairing d or a really good 2nd pairing guy. Will be interesting to see how things look with Reilly in the lineup.
 
It's actually a great analysis and I like the structured thinking you went through. :nod:

Agree with the core pieces being Phaneuf, Gards, Franson, and Fraser being a good fit as the third pairing with Frans. I think GUnnar also fits in just fine and he has been underperforming this year and I think will get back to his normal self.

This really just means we need a first line shut-down defender, and our D will be playoff calibre.

We also, conveniently, need a first line center (maybe Kadri develops into that?)

And we need a first string goalie.

So...three pieces from strong contention :)

If we had a #1c and first pairing d this team would look a lot better. Reimer may still be that #1 hes at least a good 1B goalie.
 
Interesting read. Basically he said..

Phaneuf - ??
Gardiner- ??
Fraser - Franson

Trade bait- Liles, Gunnar

I believe we need to give Holzer more time to adjust. He may be able to slot in beside Gardiner with a little more experience.

If Gardiner is not coming up anytime soon, I would rather send Holzer down their to play with him.

If we were willing to break up Franson and Fraser:

Phaneuf [LD] - Gunnarsson [LD] (25-30 min)
Liles [LD] - Franson [RD] (20 min)
Fraser [LD] - Kostka [RD] (10-15 min)
 
I think a Gardiner/Gunnarson pairing would be beastly. Fraser/Franson is a very good third pairing as well. When you really think about it, our only defensive needs are for 1) someone to play with Phaneuf and 2) Gardiner to be 100% healthy. Then we're set. Holzer/Kostka fights for the 7th spot while Liles/Komisarek are moved out.
 
I don't agree with the assumption that all play-off teams have this:

1a/1a
2a/2a
3a/3a

Thats just not the case ever or rarely at most. That said, the defense(whole team) has been giving up to many goals/shots/scoring chances. Its time to get physical and defensive more consistantly again.
 
If Gardiner is not coming up anytime soon, I would rather send Holzer down their to play with him.

If we were willing to break up Franson and Fraser:

Phaneuf [LD] - Gunnarsson [LD] (25-30 min)
Liles [LD] - Franson [RD] (20 min)
Fraser [LD] - Kostka [RD] (10-15 min)


I agree, sending Holzer down to pair up with Gardiner would be a good idea, especially if Gardiner isn't coming back up this season.

I don't agree with breaking up Fraser and Franson, those two work well together. Maybe it's time to stick Liles and Komi on a defensive pairing together to showcase for a trade.
 
I think a Gardiner/Gunnarson pairing would be beastly. Fraser/Franson is a very good third pairing as well. When you really think about it, our only defensive needs are for 1) someone to play with Phaneuf and 2) Gardiner to be 100% healthy. Then we're set. Holzer/Kostka fights for the 7th spot while Liles/Komisarek are moved out.

Agreed, it would be convenient if we could find a vet to competently play with Phaneuf until a long term option is known. Maybe a derek morris type from Pheonix. 34, only signed till the end of next year, shoots right and can handle 21 minutes a game.

Then roll with:

Phaneuf-Morris
Gunnar-Gardiner
Fraser-Franson
 

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