Value of: Help Me Find Some RFA Comps.

[rt]

I'm looking for RFA fowards that have re-signed this summer (2016) for between 900kay and 3.9mil per year. Preferably they'd be 27yrs old or younger.

So far I have...

• Andrew Shaw-24yrs-322gp-0.43ppg-6yrs-$3.90avg
• Tomas Hertl-22yrs-200gp-0.51ppg-2yrs-$3.00avg
• Boone Jenner-23yrs-185gp-0.51ppg-2yrs-$2.90avg
• J.T. Miller-23yrs-196gp-0.39ppg-2yrs-$2.75avg
• Kevin Hayes-24yrs-158gp-0.51ppg-2yrs-$2.60avg
• Marcus Foligno-24yrs-267gp-0.35ppg-1yr-$2.25avg
• Namestnikov-23yrs-127gp-0.40ppg-2yrs-$2.00avg
• Jason Zucker-24yrs-169gp-0.36ppg-2yrs-$2.00avg
• Calle Jarnkrok-24yrs-167gp-0.34ppg-6yrs-$2.00avg
• J.T. Brown - 26yrs -198gp-0.26ppg-2yrs-$1.25avg
• Johan Larsson-23yrs-142gp-0.26ppg-1yr-$1.00avg

Who am I missing?

Thanks in advance!

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[Off Sides]

Hayes, and Miller both signed bridge deals in that range unless I misread something, Fast was last off-season

 

[rt]

Hayes, and Miller both signed bridge deals in that range unless I misread something, Fast was last off-season

Thank you very much. That's exactly what I'm hoping for.

 

[Maukkis]

Lowry and Armia both fit your criteria, but I guess they are not what you're looking for...?

Rieder, amirite?

 

[dechire]

Killorn- 4.45 (higher aav than you wanted but he was a non-elite RFA forward)
JT Brown- 1.25

If Nichushkin signs soon then he'd fit your criteria.

 

[Djp]

Foligno did a 1yr QO deal--he will be 25 on Sept 16.
Girgensons likely around $1.2M-$1.6M 1-2 yr deal. lower if a 1 yr deal. He will be 22 on Sept 16
Larsson did a 1 yr $950K 1 yr deal. he will be 24 on Sept 16

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Jason Zucker
24 years old
169 NHL games
0.36 points per game
2 years x $2M per year
3rd contract

 

[Eric Sachs]

I'm looking for RFA fowards that have re-signed this summer (2016) for between 900kay and 3.9mil per year. Preferably they'd be 27yrs old or younger.

RFAs by definition are 27 years old or younger.

If you are 27 years old by June 30th, you will be a UFA on July 1st regardless of how many seasons you've accrued, etc.

 

[rt]

RFAs by definition are 27 years old or younger.

If you are 27 years old by June 30th, you will be a UFA on July 1st regardless of how many seasons you've accrued, etc.

Great point. Thank you!

 

[Riptide]

Are you looking for arbitration comparables? Because for that, only contracts that do not extend into UFA years are allowed to be used.

 

[Eric Sachs]

Are you looking for arbitration comparables? Because for that, only contracts that do not extend into UFA years are allowed to be used.

Is that true?

(iii) The following categories of evidence are inadmissible and shall not be considered by the Salary Arbitrator:
(A) Any SPC the term of which began when the Player party to such SPC was not a Group 2 Player;
(B) Any SPC entered into by an Unrestricted Free Agent, including SPCs signed by Players after the Player's Club has exercised a walk-away right pursuant to Section 12.10;

Group 2 is RFA so as long as the contract started during RFA, it can be used as a comparable? I've long thought that only the RFA years are allowed to be evidence but that doesn't seem to be the case either.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Rickard Rakell will likely fall within that range once he signs.

 

[RodTheBawd]

Curious why $3.9 is your cutoff? I was going to say Victor Rask, but he's $4m.

 

[IME]

Curious why $3.9 is your cutoff? I was going to say Victor Rask, but he's $4m.

Probably because anything higher allows a team to invoke its walk-away right.

 

[Viqsi]

William Karlsson. $1m/year, two years. 23 years old. 102 gp, 0.25ppg.

 

[strictlyrandy]

Grigorenko signed for 1 yr @ 1.3

 

[Riptide]

Is that true?



Group 2 is RFA so as long as the contract started during RFA, it can be used as a comparable? I've long thought that only the RFA years are allowed to be evidence but that doesn't seem to be the case either.

I always thought so... but I guess I learn something new every day.

 

[mouser]

Group 2 is RFA so as long as the contract started during RFA, it can be used as a comparable? I've long thought that only the RFA years are allowed to be evidence but that doesn't seem to be the case either.

The CBA doesn't bar non-RFA years from being used in arbitration in a RFA+UFA contract, but I'd expect the team reps at the arbitration hearing can make the argument to the arbitrator that he shouldn't base a ruling on them and instead the RFA years are better comparables.

Even that's problematic though, e.g. Front-loaded contracts with higher pay in the RFA years and lower in UFA. Probably one of the major reasons we rarely see salary arbitrations reach the hearing stage anymore. The mix of RFA/UFA contracts is tilted towards higher player awards IMO.

 

[RodTheBawd]

Probably because anything higher allows a team to invoke its walk-away right.

Ahh, thanks. I didn't make the connection since I still had $3.5M in my head.