Have we ever discussed building a line around Marner?

[A1LeafNation]

Marners always been the guy that you play with someone else to get them going. He's a Selke level and potential franchise winger. Have we ever discussed putting players winger him to enhance his skillset. Obviously goal scoring is lacking in the playoffs, so you want him to play with bigger goalscorers moving forward, perhaps Knies. He needs a center more capable that what Tavares has done to date.

Tavares takes up alot of oxygen and getting caved in a top 6 center role. Maybe he is more useful as a winger in the top 6 and not a liability. Nylander is another good player who is also a defensive liability at times. How would you remake the top 6 to build around these guys...if they don't walk?

________ Matthews _______
Knies __________ Marner

Kadri would have been a good center for Marner and Knies if he didn't get himself suspended twice. But the way Florida is allowed to play without consequence has me rethinking the DOPS and their decision making. Who knows...

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[A1LeafNation]

Marners always been the guy that you play with someone else to get them going. He's a Selke level and potential franchise winger. Have we ever discussed putting players winger him to enhance his skillset. Obviously goal scoring is lacking in the playoffs, so you want him to play with bigger goalscorers moving forward, perhaps Knies. He needs a center more capable that what Tavares has done to date.

Tavares takes up alot of oxygen and getting caved in a top 6 center role. Maybe he is more useful as a winger in the top 6 and not a liability. Nylander is another good player who is also a defensive liability at times. How would you remake the top 6 to build around these guys...if they don't walk?

________ Matthews _______
Knies __________ Marner

Kadri would have been a good center for Marner and Knies if he didn't get himself suspended twice. But the way Florida is allowed to play without consequence has me rethinking the DOPS and their decision making. Who knows...

Something like this (fantasy land) could have worked well...

Tkachuk Matthews Wilson
Knies Kadri Marner

 

[Notsince67]

Marner was scoring at a 1.13 ppg pace when he was with kadri from Dec of that year. This was before JT and only is his second year.
Marner could do it but Kadri's ability was also under rated.

 

[ACC1224]

I think it’s more important to have him play with a big skilled winger who can give him some extra room and protect him from abuse.
Tom Wilson would be perfect IMO.

 

[ULF_55]

I think it’s more important to have him play with a big skilled winger who can give him some extra room and protect him from abuse.
Tom Wilson would be perfect IMO.

Expensive.
He did come back from major knee surgery and score 13 in 33, and still put up a lot of PIMs.

Maybe.


I have been somewhat impressed with this 27 year old free agent though.

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[DarkKnight]

He would really benefit from a line mate who can create space, a banger with decent skill who could disrupt schemes. Not saying this is any answer but an Acciari would be an interesting experiment, provided he is with Matthews. Might be out his depth there, but….

 

[notDatsyuk]

Marners always been the guy that you play with someone else to get them going. He's a Selke level and potential franchise winger. Have we ever discussed putting players winger him to enhance his skillset. Obviously goal scoring is lacking in the playoffs, so you want him to play with bigger goalscorers moving forward, perhaps Knies. He needs a center more capable that what Tavares has done to date.

Tavares takes up alot of oxygen and getting caved in a top 6 center role. Maybe he is more useful as a winger in the top 6 and not a liability. Nylander is another good player who is also a defensive liability at times. How would you remake the top 6 to build around these guys...if they don't walk?

________ Matthews _______
Knies __________ Marner

Kadri would have been a good center for Marner and Knies if he didn't get himself suspended twice. But the way Florida is allowed to play without consequence has me rethinking the DOPS and their decision making. Who knows...

"You want him to play with bigger goalscorers" than Matthews?

Agreed Tavares isn't a capable centre any more, and if he wasn't so slow he'd be a decent top-6 winger.

Maybe move Nylander to C and add a fast winger who plays hard?

 

[horner]

Marners always been the guy that you play with someone else to get them going. He's a Selke level and potential franchise winger. Have we ever discussed putting players winger him to enhance his skillset. Obviously goal scoring is lacking in the playoffs, so you want him to play with bigger goalscorers moving forward, perhaps Knies. He needs a center more capable that what Tavares has done to date.

Tavares takes up alot of oxygen and getting caved in a top 6 center role. Maybe he is more useful as a winger in the top 6 and not a liability. Nylander is another good player who is also a defensive liability at times. How would you remake the top 6 to build around these guys...if they don't walk?

________ Matthews _______
Knies __________ Marner

Kadri would have been a good center for Marner and Knies if he didn't get himself suspended twice. But the way Florida is allowed to play without consequence has me rethinking the DOPS and their decision making. Who knows...

Backlkund Calgary rumors are he wants out.
5.3 mil cap hit
1st + prospect

or

Scott Laughton 3 mil cap hit
1st

 

[Gabriel426]

The other two guys need to have a good shot to take advantage of MM passing and vision. Preferably someone who are also good at intercepting pucks in the Dzone and put pressure on pinching Dman to create odd man rushes.
Don’t think we have any wingers who play that way.

 

[LeafSteel]

Knies-Tavares-Marner

I honestly like this line. Knies and Tavares play a possession game.

Marner can thread the puck through the eye of a needle, and both guys have decent finish.

I want to see more of them together.

 

[A1LeafNation]

"You want him to play with bigger goalscorers" than Matthews?

Agreed Tavares isn't a capable centre any more, and if he wasn't so slow he'd be a decent top-6 winger.

Maybe move Nylander to C and add a fast winger who plays hard?

To me, both Matthews and Marner need protection on their lines. They are incapable of standing up for themselves in a meaningful way.

Marner is a franchise player should be capable of carrying his own line same as Matthews. Knies is the same type of player as Matthews (not as good but a big scorer, and not mean enough yet) so that's why I have them separated.

______ Matthews ______
Knies _________ Marner

 

[Fogelhund]

Two lines that worked very well... in VERY limited to limited regular season minutes for us... but seem to be somewhat realistic... are..

Tavares Matthews Marner
Knies RoR Nylander

When RoR was played higher up in the lineup, he did pretty well. When he became the third line C, in the playoffs, things really went south. It's unfortunate Keefe didn't put him back in the top six.

That being said... Tavares Matthews Marner wasn't too effective in the whole 10 minutes that they played together in the playoffs.

Tavares as a C in the playoffs.. with Knies JT Marner and Kerfoot JT Nylander, provided us with the highest xGoals % of any of our playoff lines... again, small numbers though.

Barring any trades, which seem unlikely at this point... Tavares, Matthews, Marner, Knies and Nylander seem locked in our top six... it's just who is the sixth guy?

 

[Clark4Ever]

In his rookie season, Babcock had him on the 3rd line with Bozak and JVR and he did a good job driving that line.

 

[m1ker]

i'm thinking something like Tkachuk-Bennett-Marner

 

[Arzak]

I think it's mostly because you build lines around C.

We could have the best shutdown line in hockey with Marner.

Hell, I can see a team like that winning the Cup. Bergeron was getting 0 offensive time when Bruins won the Cup.

0% chance we'll have one.
We need Mitch chasing 100.

Maybe the poster that's trying to tell JT to go, could also tell Marner to work on his shot or focus on his Selke skills.

 

[notDatsyuk]

To me, both Matthews and Marner need protection on their lines. They are incapable of standing up for themselves in a meaningful way.

Marner is a franchise player should be capable of carrying his own line same as Matthews. Knies is the same type of player as Matthews (not as good but a big scorer, and not mean enough yet) so that's why I have them separated.

______ Matthews ______
Knies _________ Marner

So not a bigger goalscorer, but a tougher player? OK.

I don't think Matthews needs 'protection' so much as a winger who doesn't need it.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Knies-Tavares-Marner

I honestly like this line. Knies and Tavares play a possession game.

Marner can thread the puck through the eye of a needle, and both guys have decent finish.

I want to see more of them together.

Since Mitch doesn't play as fast a game as Willy, JT doesn't slow him down as much, but I think it's a waste of both wingers to have JT between them.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Two lines that worked very well... in VERY limited to limited regular season minutes for us... but seem to be somewhat realistic... are..

Tavares Matthews Marner
Knies RoR Nylander

When RoR was played higher up in the lineup, he did pretty well. When he became the third line C, in the playoffs, things really went south. It's unfortunate Keefe didn't put him back in the top six.

That being said... Tavares Matthews Marner wasn't too effective in the whole 10 minutes that they played together in the playoffs.

Tavares as a C in the playoffs.. with Knies JT Marner and Kerfoot JT Nylander, provided us with the highest xGoals % of any of our playoff lines... again, small numbers though.

Barring any trades, which seem unlikely at this point... Tavares, Matthews, Marner, Knies and Nylander seem locked in our top six... it's just who is the sixth guy?

I think those lines were good despite JT, rather than with him.

I can see JT still being our 2C by default, but I don't think he should be anything more than 3C and PP.

 

[A1LeafNation]

So not a bigger goalscorer, but a tougher player? OK.

I don't think Matthews needs 'protection' so much as a winger who doesn't need it.

Both like a Wilson or one of the Tkachuks.

 

[Canadian Finn]

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[thusk]

Marners always been the guy that you play with someone else to get them going. He's a Selke level and potential franchise winger. Have we ever discussed putting players winger him to enhance his skillset. Obviously goal scoring is lacking in the playoffs, so you want him to play with bigger goalscorers moving forward, perhaps Knies. He needs a center more capable that what Tavares has done to date.

Tavares takes up alot of oxygen and getting caved in a top 6 center role. Maybe he is more useful as a winger in the top 6 and not a liability. Nylander is another good player who is also a defensive liability at times. How would you remake the top 6 to build around these guys...if they don't walk?

________ Matthews _______
Knies __________ Marner

Kadri would have been a good center for Marner and Knies if he didn't get himself suspended twice. But the way Florida is allowed to play without consequence has me rethinking the DOPS and their decision making. Who knows...

Since Mitch doesn't play as fast a game as Willy, JT doesn't slow him down as much, but I think it's a waste of both wingers to have JT between them.

And when willy was playing with Matthews, you wasting Matthews... he always being worst playing with Willy

So nylander cant play with matthews and tavares... so he should play on 3rd line line like i said

And when marner was playing with Matthews youbl waste a big part of Marner because hes not as dominant than when hes driving his own line

For me best thing could be

Knies-Matthews-Jarnkrok
______-Jt-Marner
_____-_____-Nylander

Using nylander like florida doing with reinhart