TennisMenace
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We will make the playoffs so relax.
We won't win a playoff series but I think we all are used to that so relax some more.
Hate to say it but...
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We will make the playoffs so relax.
We won't win a playoff series but I think we all are used to that so relax some more.
Ice Poutine
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I dont know about Boucher. Great junior coach but his message has been heard before by NHL players and it seems to fall on deaf ears quite rapidly. And i dont know how many NHL teams are beating down his door to invite him back in the league.
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Ice Poutine
LA POUTINE IS BACK!
We will make the playoffs so relax.
We won't win a playoff series but I think we all are used to that so relax some more.
Exactly: we will make the playoffs just so we make a little profit and make the Molson shareholders happy.
We have become the Quebec equivalent of the Maple Laughs with their slogan "Dont win the cup; just make some cash"_____
Raider917
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We will make the playoffs so relax.
We won't win a playoff series but I think we all are used to that so relax some more.
if thats what you like i suppose you can be satisfied
Scintillating10
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He is kind of mundane after awhile but is a brilliant hockey guy. I think we would get one/maybe two overachieving years out of him before he has to go. Sort of like Pat Burns
OldCraig71
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Matthieu Darche will be the next coach of the Habs. He is taking the right path after all, he speaks the language and learned much as mr martins boy toy.
hockeyfan2k11
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The goal continues to be making the playoffs. This franchise does not truly want to win a cup. It doesn't function like a club whose single goal is to win a cup. Too many politics. Reminds me of the Leafs under Ballard.
Liferleafer
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Leaf fan coming in peace. I don't think you need to worry, you guys will be fine. Those 4 points are tough to gain (for the Leafs) and the Sens and Wings are not at their best either. I do admit, much like the Leafs, you guys could use to shore up your D.
Matthieu Darche will be the next coach of the Habs. He is taking the right path after all, he speaks the language and learned much as mr martins boy toy.
I honestly wouldn't even be surprised. He honestly has a better shot at the job than Peter Laviolette.
Right now the last wildcard team in the East is on pace for 89 points.
So we need 30 points in our last 33 games to make the playoffs basically.
A 12-15-6 record would get us there and I really doubt that we'll be that bad for the rest of the season.
So we need 30 points in our last 33 games to make the playoffs basically.
A 12-15-6 record would get us there and I really doubt that we'll be that bad for the rest of the season.
Lafleurs Guy
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Yup, he never ceases to pop in and praise me. It's flattering but quite frankly - a little creepy.
We both love Rosie Dimanno though so it's all good.
Yes please.
The question isn't who could do better... the question is who could do worse?Wich coach would or could come in here and do a better job?
I mean ANY coach has to work with what he's given and right now there's a lot of dead wood in the Habs lineup...
You are absolutely right about the dead wood in the lineup though. Sad to say that we added to it in the offseason...
Knives are being sharpened. If he slumps - at all - it will be the same old story.
And God help him if he plays in the Olympics and doesn't win gold.
We will. Oh good.We will make the playoffs so relax.
We won't win a playoff series but I think we all are used to that so relax some more.
I guess that's the standard of success now. Good thing we're in the East I guess. No need to improve anything.
HeShootsHeScores
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This team will make the playoffs holding on barely above .500. Best case scenario we move to the 2nd round because Price plays at his best.
We can still be positive if we think :
- Emelin will get better, somehow.
- Pacioretty will play with more urgency in his game.
- Subban inner beast unleashes more and more as the most important games are coming.
- Desharnais continues to produce.
- Our defensive zone coverage improves a little bit.
- Bourque gets in a hot streak.
- Galchenyuk comes back and plays awesome, as a break may have done wonders to him.
They definitely need a player like Beaulieu to create offensive rushes and allow the team to approach the offensive part of the game more open minded. Calling him up was a great idea because the team sucked anyway.
Markov is too slow to create anything more than play coming from his great first pass. Right now this teams worst enemy is themselves. The olympic break may help them come back with a fresh perspective.
We can still be positive if we think :
- Emelin will get better, somehow.
- Pacioretty will play with more urgency in his game.
- Subban inner beast unleashes more and more as the most important games are coming.
- Desharnais continues to produce.
- Our defensive zone coverage improves a little bit.
- Bourque gets in a hot streak.
- Galchenyuk comes back and plays awesome, as a break may have done wonders to him.
They definitely need a player like Beaulieu to create offensive rushes and allow the team to approach the offensive part of the game more open minded. Calling him up was a great idea because the team sucked anyway.
Markov is too slow to create anything more than play coming from his great first pass. Right now this teams worst enemy is themselves. The olympic break may help them come back with a fresh perspective.
All we need is a defenseman to get rid of Cube and Murray and put Emelin on the third pairing + go back to the puck possession gameplan we had at the start of the season.
Lafleurs Guy
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Going back to the original gameplan would be a good start. Still dont' know why they broke up the EGG line...
At this point though, I really think a coaching change is in order. If nothing else that would help because we can't play any worse than we've been playing for a while now.
I don't think this is overreacting either. We've seen the club flounder for a while now and the Chicago game (where we were marvelous) sticks out like a sore thumb.
CanadienShark
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It's the Atlantic division, I'm not too worried about getting into the playoffs.
Do I think we'll get swept in the first round? Yes.
Do I think we'll get swept in the first round? Yes.
This team is doing exactly what most envisioned at the start of the season: fight for a playoffs spot. That's the talent and dedication level the team truly has.
Next year's success wont be more on Therrien than on Bergevin's shoulders and his players' developpment personel.
Next year's success wont be more on Therrien than on Bergevin's shoulders and his players' developpment personel.
Mr. Hab, there's no mystery to the 9-0-1 run. 2 goals or less allowed for a stretch of games, as you claim will be the only -- or likely -- winning strategy. I remember that stretch and was always thinking, "If they don'T allow a third goal, they have a shot at winning…" News headlines always raved about Price not allowing more than two goals for this many or that many consecutive games….
The D has been horrible, primarily since Markov and Subban were separated. Granted, there's not much beyond that pairing but, they play nearly half the game, when together and, the puck is in the other zone most of the time. The other D pairings generate next to zero offense but, if they play good D, with no expectations the other way, we can win 3-2, 2-1, and so on with solid goaltending.
The real problem is that MOntreal forwards have taken on the personality of a team that can run and gun with the best -- Just not a reality! The back check has been non-existent for a long while now. The lack of defensive support from our forwards -- most of them, anyhow -- has shown how fragile the overall D really is.
Regardless of size for The Habs, the system will be the key to surviving -- or advancing -- in the playoffs. Players will likely be more willing, at that time, to espouse such a system again.
Until then, let's hope the players don't manage to run themselves out of a playoff spot….
sampollock
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the team is too small, can't handle the bigger clubs, playoffs will prove that.
Emelin is not hitting, why? worried about this knee??
but last night he was sad, no hitting, nothing.
Showed MB in the press box, why? proud of getting pushed around, this club will not survive in the playoffs, OTT killed us last year, and again it will happen
the only small guy that works and makes a diff is Gally. after that avg 3rd liners in the small guys,
Emelin is not hitting, why? worried about this knee??
but last night he was sad, no hitting, nothing.
Showed MB in the press box, why? proud of getting pushed around, this club will not survive in the playoffs, OTT killed us last year, and again it will happen
the only small guy that works and makes a diff is Gally. after that avg 3rd liners in the small guys,
OldCraig71
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It seems to be the best way for a guy to get hired in the NHL, how many panel guys on both TSN and RDS get jobs? Quite a few, I would like to see Darche get a shot, why not? Surely he could be just as good as any of the others we've had in the last 15 years. He would make PK the captain and would be great with the ahl call ups having spent so much time there, keep gallant and hire Larry Robinson to coach the d. Problem solved.
TennisMenace
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Scriptor, well written/intelligent post. Imo, the management, coaches...have to properly evaluate the team in a realistic way and make a decision and stick to it (do we build around Price and PK Subban...defense first and foremost, or do we build a run and gun team that will revolve around scoring as many goals as possible...lots of 5-4 or 6-4 games/high scoring games,etc... we don't have the firepower to be a team that consistently scores
many goals every game...imo, at least not yet!).
Imo, our chances are better if we build around defense (you already have the starting blocks in Price and PK Subban...our two MVPs...and Plekanec is a young veteran who can give us another good 4-5 seasons imo (and is never injured...*knock on wood*). Pleks is our most important and underrated forward...constantly checking the opposition's top lines and bringing some decent offense and always dangerous on the PK...and never complains...always performs no matter who he's playing with).
Lots of Hab fans would like to see as many goals as possible (same here!), but...we have to be realistic. Do we have more chances of being a successful/consistent winning team that only allows an average of 2 to 2.25 goals per game, or do we have more chances at success trying to be a team that tries to score as many goals per game as possible (5-4 or 6-5 games). 2-1 or 3-2 scores aren't always fun, but imo winning a lot will always be the best option imo no matter how boring your system...if it works...great!! ('93 Habs weren't built on offense, offense, offense...it was built around a goalie, defense and hard team work...defense that revolved around Patrick Roy, Desjardins, Schneider, JJ Daigneault, Odelein...we really need to strengthen our top 4 d-core).
I'm a Gorges fan, but I have to be honest...I'm not at all happy with the way he's been playing since his $3.9mil/year contract. He used to do everything to get the puck out of our zone (true warrior)...now he struggles with or without the puck, but many here will still say he's worth $3.9 because he blocks shots and cares!! (this is your average #5-6 dman). I want way more from Gorges...way more. I want the good ol' Gorges back!!
Emelin...I never trusted his defence 101 (with or without the puck). Yes he gives solid body-checks (or used to!!) and can block shots sometimes, but for $4.5mil/year...he has to be way better than a very average #5-6 dman.
Good coach or not...when Emelin gets schooled the way he did by Kadri...it won't make a difference if Bowman is behind the bench. Emelin better look at the chest/body and follow it, stick to it, not get mesmerized by the puck like a novice dman!! That was awful...and it had to be VS the Leaves (of all teams!!). I really wonder about his defense 101 (common sense that most good NHL dmen have). I'm not worried about DD's contract anymore...I'm more worried about Emelin's contract (gulp!). I really really want Emelin to prove me wrong...I'll be waiting and watching!
I really really hope our Habs build around Price and PK Subban...defence first and foremost (like with Roy+Desjardins+Schneider). This may be our only chance of going far in playoffs in the next 2-3-4 seasons+. You have got to surround Price with better, quality dmen...you have to (and PK Subban needs lots of help...Gorges and Emelin are not really helping Subban right now).
We have enough firepower (or barely!) with Pacioretty, Galchenyuk, Pleks, Gallagher, Eller...better to try and win by allowing no more than 2 goals per game. We don't have a Crosby+Malkin and others lie them to score 4-5-6 goals on most nights. Let's be realistic. So what's it going to be? Defensive team or a team that has no identity (confused!?!)...score 4 goals one night, let in 4-5 goals another night...can't stand inconsistent teams! (not organized, no real system,etc).
Our Crosby and Malkin is Price and PK Subban...build around that, add to that. If we can win a lot and go far in the playoffs with many 2-1 and 3-2 victories...I'll gladly take it!!
Just my opinion!
p.s.: really hoping J.Tinordi can help us (defensively) within a year or two (or sooner!!). We need more defensive dmen (or two-way dmen) who can keep it simple/smart in our zone (almost no mistakes) and be disciplined. Give Price and Subban all the help they can get (high-paid Gorges+ Emelin need to help our Habs way more...'cause right now we're in trouble with them being our #3-4 dmen...
, unless they can really pick it up...let's wait and see).
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It seems he did a lot more than make a great first pass in the game against Chicago.
paulhiggins
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Some teams (like my Leafs) would prefer to sleep through many games. Tell Subban and Gallagher to let sleeping dogs lie, rather than get the other teams riled up. Good players but they are costing you games.
