Toggle sidebar

Has there ever been a worse offseason and trade deadline by a new GM than what Barry Trotz pulled off?

  • Xenforo Cloud has upgraded us to version 2.3.6. Please report any issues you experience.
  • We are currently aware of "log in/security error" issues that are affecting some users. We apologize and ask for your patience as we try to get these issues fixed.
NoNecksCurse

NoNecksCurse

Registered User
Oct 19, 2011
13,342
5,250
Feel free to add other blunders. Just going to name a few and then read the replies.

  • Signed Stamkos to 4 years, 32 million. I don't think a single team would take his contract for free.
  • Signed Skjei, Marchessault, and Stamkos for a combined 108.5 million. The predators are currently the 3rd worst team in the league
  • Traded away Novak for Bunting (who is out for the year) but Dubas fleeced him into throwing in Schenn for a 4th round pick. He just signed Novak to a 3 year deal on March 4th 2024. Dubas turns around and flips Schenn for a 2nd and 4th round pick.
  • Similarly, he paid Pittsburgh and Dubas a 3rd and 6th round pick to TAKE Cody Glass. Pittsburgh just traded Glass for a 3rd round pick.
  • Signed Dante Fabbro in March and waived him. Fabbro has played well for CBJ on their top pair and logs over 20 minutes of ice time a game.
  • Signed Carrier to a 3 year deal in July 2024 and traded him to MTL for Barron (bad asset management)
  • Chose Saros over Askarov. Signed Saros to an 8 year, 61.9 million deal.
  • Nashville is in lottery draft pick contention and made zero moves today. No transactions even listed on Milwaukee's page (our AHL affiliate).

Feel free to add more. Those are just the ones that stick out.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
  • Wow
  • Love
Reactions: mdobbs, pouf pouf, FinPanda and 20 others
Lou has got to be close, re-signing Palmieri when you could have got a solid asset for him is one of the dumbest decisions in NHL history, holding on to other soon to be expiring contracts on a team that is going nowhere in a hot market is equally as dumb
 
  • Like
Reactions: The Real JT and shello
I give you the 2016 offseason and draft by Vancouver

Canucks
- Draft Juolevi over Tkachuk or Sergachev
- Vancouver had a deal in place that if Columbus drafted anybody other than PLD Vancouver would have sent Bo Horvat, Tanev, and the 5th pick to montreal for Subban
- They are the 2nd worst team in the league and they have 5 draft picks……
- they sign loui Eriksson to one of the worst contracts in the NHL, and it is buyout proof
- they trade Jared McCan and picks for Erik FRANKING Gubbranson
 
  • Like
Reactions: mdobbs, Halakitlikethat, MikeyMike01 and 6 others
NoNecksCurse said:
Feel free to add other blunders. Just going to name a few and then read the replies.

  • Signed Stamkos to 4 years, 32 million. I don't think a single team would take his contract for free.
  • Signed Skjei, Marchessault, and Stamkos for a combined 108.5 million. The predators are currently the 3rd worst team in the league
  • Traded away Novak for Bunting (who is out for the year) but Dubas fleeced him into throwing in Schenn for a 4th round pick. He just signed Novak to a 3 year deal on March 4th 2024. Dubas turns around and flips Schenn for a 2nd and 4th round pick.
  • Similarly, he paid Pittsburgh and Dubas a 3rd and 6th round pick to TAKE Cody Glass. Pittsburgh just traded Glass for a 3rd round pick.
  • Signed Dante Fabbro in March and waived him. Fabbro has played well for CBJ on their top fair and logs over 20 minutes of ice time a game.
  • Signed Carrier to a 3 year deal in July 2024 and traded him to MTL for Barron (bad asset management)
  • Chose Saros over Askarov. Signed Saros to an 8 year, 61.9 million deal.
  • Nashville is in lottery draft pick contention and made zero moves today. No transactions even listed on Milwaukee's page (our AHL affiliate).

Feel free to add more. Those are just the ones that stick out.
Click to expand...
It’s been one big train wreck. Not this past summer, but buying out Duchene is as egregious as anything else he’s done. Giving away tolvanen for nothing was bad too.
 
  • Like
Reactions: NoNecksCurse and Summer Rose
NoNecksCurse said:
Trotz was just in an interview saying Bunting was "their guy."

Trotz should never be allowed to trade with Dubas again.
Click to expand...

I mean, as a Penguins fan I'd fully understand Trotz being barred from making another deal with us. Just a baffling series of moves.

Bunting isn't out for the season, he had an appendectomy and almost certainly will be back before the season ends, but that doesn't make that specific move any less nonsensical. A guy who turns 30 before the start of next season who may be the streakiest player in the league isn't the kind of player Nashville should be targeting. He's a solid player, but he's not a consistent presence and has some massive flaws in his game. He makes a ton of sense as depth on a contender, especially with his penchant for monster games...but he then goes dead quiet for weeks on end. At his age that's not a fixable flaw, it's just who he is. He absolutely will go off at least once before the end of the season and that'll build up hope for that to be sustained, but it won't be...which is why he hasn't stuck with any of his employers.

This is a crash course in why coaches shouldn't also be GMs. It feels like a lot of these moves have been based on little more than vibes. If you catch one of Bunting's monster games then yes, I get a glowing scouting report...but you just need to watch his next game to remember why he's much more of a journeyman than a cornerstone.

I'm not trying to be cruel or anything of the sort, I just don't get his thought process on any of these moves. The Penguins comfortably won each of those deals. Glass wasn't bad enough nor expensive enough to require an asset to take (hence the Penguins double-dipping on 3rd rounders involving Glass), Tomasino is flawed but skilled and generally pretty solid, and his valuation of Bunting was just way off. I'd stop well short of putting Trotz in Milbury territory quite yet, but he's clearly infinitely better at being a HC than a GM.
 
  • Like
Reactions: DownIsTheNewUp, BHD and Summer Rose
NoNecksCurse said:
Feel free to add other blunders. Just going to name a few and then read the replies.

  • Nashville is in lottery draft pick contention and made zero moves today. No transactions even listed on Milwaukee's page (our AHL affiliate).

Feel free to add more. Those are just the ones that stick out.
Click to expand...
1741403948811.png
 
NoNecksCurse said:
Feel free to add other blunders. Just going to name a few and then read the replies.

  • Signed Stamkos to 4 years, 32 million. I don't think a single team would take his contract for free.
  • Signed Skjei, Marchessault, and Stamkos for a combined 108.5 million. The predators are currently the 3rd worst team in the league
  • Traded away Novak for Bunting (who is out for the year) but Dubas fleeced him into throwing in Schenn for a 4th round pick. He just signed Novak to a 3 year deal on March 4th 2024. Dubas turns around and flips Schenn for a 2nd and 4th round pick.
  • Similarly, he paid Pittsburgh and Dubas a 3rd and 6th round pick to TAKE Cody Glass. Pittsburgh just traded Glass for a 3rd round pick.
  • Signed Dante Fabbro in March and waived him. Fabbro has played well for CBJ on their top fair and logs over 20 minutes of ice time a game.
  • Signed Carrier to a 3 year deal in July 2024 and traded him to MTL for Barron (bad asset management)
  • Chose Saros over Askarov. Signed Saros to an 8 year, 61.9 million deal.
  • Nashville is in lottery draft pick contention and made zero moves today. No transactions even listed on Milwaukee's page (our AHL affiliate).

Feel free to add more. Those are just the ones that stick out.
Click to expand...

Feels, man. Good summary.

The “trading a guy who then gets flipped for more” is an instant firing for me. Other GMs just don’t even respect you at that point.
 
  • Like
Reactions: mdobbs, The Electrician, Kcb12345 and 3 others
TheDawnOfANewTage said:
Feels, man. Good summary.

The “trading a guy who then gets flipped for more” is an instant firing for me. Other GMs just don’t even respect you at that point.
Click to expand...
Twice, to the same team, while throwing in a bonus 3rd and 6th for taking Glass (who he had signed to an extension the year before).

Unless you think there's a big difference between Novak and Bunting's value, I think it's a net loss (and/or opportunity cost, whichever) of a 2nd, two 3rds, and a 6th. All in 6ish months!
 
  • Wow
  • Like
Reactions: a mangy Meowth and Coffee
You said:
Twice, to the same team, while throwing in a bonus 3rd and 6th for taking Glass (who he had signed to an extension the year before).

Unless you think there's a big difference between Novak and Bunting's value, I think it's a net loss (and/or opportunity cost, whichever) of a 2nd, two 3rds, and a 6th. All in 6ish months!
Click to expand...
Haven’t seen you post since may last year , dude
 
  • Like
Reactions: You and Summer Rose
Nogatco Rd said:
It’s been one big train wreck. Not this past summer, but buying out Duchene is as egregious as anything else he’s done. Giving away tolvanen for nothing was bad too.
Click to expand...
Should have listed Duchene. That one is not talked about enough. Thanks.

Tolvanen was Poile.

Disclaimer: Trotz was officially GM July 1st 2023. You could make an argument both were Trotz' decision or had his full support. He shadowed Poile for his final year from what I remember.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Summer Rose
Trotz is a smart man. Thought he would be a pretty good GM, especially since he has direct access to Poile. He is off to about as bad a start as possible. I wonder how much of this is on him or if those around him are giving rotten advice. Good thing is he has nowhere to go but up.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Summer Rose
Breakers said:
I give you the 2016 offseason and draft by Vancouver

Canucks
- Draft Juolevi over Tkachuk or Sergachev
- Vancouver had a deal in place that if Columbus drafted anybody other than PLD Vancouver would have sent Bo Horvat, Tanev, and the 5th pick to montreal for Subban
- They are the 2nd worst team in the league and they have 5 draft picks……
- they sign loui Eriksson to one of the worst contracts in the NHL, and it is buyout proof
- they trade Jared McCan and picks for Erik FRANKING Gubbranson
Click to expand...
This isn't even close to as bad as some of the things Trotz and Yzerman have done lately. Loui Ericksson was never in the top 10 worst contracts in the league.

Gudbranson got a 4 million dollar contract after his canucks term was up. And he played a full season last year. I get that these hit close to home but I just dont think they compare
 
Last edited:
It is apparent that Trotz has never played a competitive season of Yahoo fantasy hockey. Nobody in a serious fantasy league does these things. Nevermind an actual NHL team. He would get torn apart in a serious fantasy league.
 
  • Haha
  • Like
Reactions: Doubledose and Nogatco Rd
Breakers said:
I give you the 2016 offseason and draft by Vancouver

Canucks
- Draft Juolevi over Tkachuk or Sergachev
- Vancouver had a deal in place that if Columbus drafted anybody other than PLD Vancouver would have sent Bo Horvat, Tanev, and the 5th pick to montreal for Subban
- They are the 2nd worst team in the league and they have 5 draft picks……
- they sign loui Eriksson to one of the worst contracts in the NHL, and it is buyout proof
- they trade Jared McCan and picks for Erik FRANKING Gubbranson
Click to expand...
Without Eriksson they don't get OEL though. So that's something.

Not a good thing. But something.
 
  • Haha
Reactions: TheGreenTBer and a mangy Meowth
You must log in or register to reply here.

Latest posts

Ad

Ad

Top Bottom