Has Connor Bedard quietly became underrated ?

[WarriorofTime]

What happend to Bedard's shot?

No forwards to set him up

 

[Bombshell11]

No forwards to set him up

Come on man, watch Michkov on the pp and Bedard.

A 1st oa with the gen tag shouldnt need someone to set him up empty netters.

The goal yesterday was a nice one. No one set him up, the release was elite, he beat the goalie. He should be doing more of that, but hes not

 

[WarriorofTime]

Come on man, watch Michkov on the pp and Bedard.

A 1st oa with the gen tag shouldnt need someone to set him up empty netters.

The goal yesterday was a nice one. No one set him up, the release was elite, he beat the goalie. He should be doing more of that, but hes not

Bedard doesn't have any empty netters this year and only had 1 last season. Pay attention.

 

[Bombshell11]

Bedard doesn't have any empty netters this year and only had 1 last season. Pay attention.

You said he needed someone to set him up, empty net in this context i meant when a goalie gets out of position

 

[ClydeLee]

Donato is irrelevant its great for him hes got an opportunity to show hes a capable player when needed.

Bedard should be producing at a higher pace. 2.5 is low

Michkov is working with 3.4 pts per 60 min

What happend to Bedard's shot? How come, after a full year and half my team did not succeed at improving Bedard's shooting? These are questions i would be asking my self if i was a chicago fan.

That's basically the main reason they fired a coach.

 

[Fantomas]

Wouldn't write off Bedard just yet. I remember he had a miserable start to his draft-year season in the dub and then turned on the jets. Obviously this is a different situation but he's growing and filling out. My prediction is that at some point he catches fire, probably in the second half, and everyone will be excited again.

 

[Chelios]

Come on man, watch Michkov on the pp and Bedard.

A 1st oa with the gen tag shouldnt need someone to set him up empty netters.

The goal yesterday was a nice one. No one set him up, the release was elite, he beat the goalie. He should be doing more of that, but hes not

You do realize that, for all their faults, Chicago is 11th in PP% this season and that is almost entirely because of Bedard.

 

[Chelios]

What happend to Bedard's shot? How come, after a full year and half my team did not succeed at improving Bedard's shooting? These are questions i would be asking my self if i was a chicago fan.

Nothing happened to his shot. What happened is that he is, by far and away, the best offensive player on his team. Teams can, and do, sell out to take away his shot. Add to that that there is no other players that can reliably make plays to get him the puck in space, and you have your answer. Anyone who watches Chicago regularly can tell you this.

 

[Bombshell11]

Nothing happened to his shot. What happened is that he is, by far and away, the best offensive player on his team. Teams can, and do, sell out to take away his shot. Add to that that there is no other players that can reliably make plays to get him the puck in space, and you have your answer. Anyone who watches Chicago regularly can tell you this.

No1 problem for Bedard is his usage. Its terrible. He's been overly used, he can't even handle it. This is not his fault but we need to recognize he cant play 20 mins a night (right now) and i dont understand why they do it in Chicago. Its stupid, you risk burning him out, ruin his confidence and break him.

No2 Supporting cast, its abysmal, we all agree on that

No3 Positional, he plays to be the hero on the ice rather than be effective, this hurts his game and Chicagos game as well, regardless with who he's playing with. Chicago needs to stop treating him like he's their McDavid and comeback to reality.

 

[Chelios]

No1 problem for Bedard is his usage. Its terrible. He's been overly used, he can't even handle it. This is not his fault but we need to recognize he cant play 20 mins a night (right now) and i dont understand why they do it in Chicago. Its stupid, you risk burning him out, ruin his confidence and break him.

He is by far and away the best offensive player on the team, of course they are going to play him a ton. They have also been weirdly competitive this year despite their record, so they have been within a goal in the 3rd in almost every game this season. Of course you are going to get your best player out there in those situations. Every coach would be doing the same thing.

No3 Positional, he plays to be the hero on the ice rather than be effective, this hurts his game and Chicagos game as well, regardless with who he's playing with. Chicago needs to stop treating him like he's their McDavid and comeback to reality.

He definitely can force things at times and make some ill-advised plays, but I don't think it is him trying to be a "hero", its just a function of him having basically the weight of the offence on his shoulders and trying to make some thing happen. Its not like he is being selfish, he has more than twice as many assists as any other forward on the team. And no, he is not Chicago's McDavid. In a weird way he is actually more important because Bedard doesn't have a Draisaitl to help.

 

[Juxtaposer]

These "Celebrini has a better supporting cast than Bedard" excuses are getting old. Celebrini just put up three points last night playing with Nikolai Kovalenko. It doesn't matter who he's playing with, he simply makes things happen every shift.

 

[sensfan4lifee]

These "Celebrini has a better supporting cast than Bedard" excuses are getting old. Celebrini just put up three points last night playing with Nikolai Kovalenko. It doesn't matter who he's playing with, he simply makes things happen every shift.

Celebrini is not and will not ever be better than Bedard, you fan boys of Celebrini are becoming annoying.

 

[Juxtaposer]

Celebrini is not and will not ever be better than Bedard, you fan boys of Celebrini are becoming annoying.

I'm sorry the fact that Macklin Celebrini is better than Connor Bedard is annoying to you! Take a nap and come back tomorrow with more "but muh linemates" excuses, I'm sure it'll work better then.

 

[Bombshell11]

Celebrini is not and will not ever be better than Bedard, you fan boys of Celebrini are becoming annoying.

Celebrini and Michkov are better and its a fact

He is by far and away the best offensive player on the team, of course they are going to play him a ton. They have also been weirdly competitive this year despite their record, so they have been within a goal in the 3rd in almost every game this season. Of course you are going to get your best player out there in those situations. Every coach would be doing the same thing.



He definitely can force things at times and make some ill-advised plays, but I don't think it is him trying to be a "hero", its just a function of him having basically the weight of the offence on his shoulders and trying to make some thing happen. Its not like he is being selfish, he has more than twice as many assists as any other forward on the team. And no, he is not Chicago's McDavid. In a weird way he is actually more important because Bedard doesn't have a Draisaitl to help.

We're saying the same thing essentially at the core of it

 

[braunm]

Bédard needs a Drai or Rantanen

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Celebrini is not and will not ever be better than Bedard, you fan boys of Celebrini are becoming annoying.

I'm on the fence about who will be better. But, despite being a year younger, Celebrini has unquestionably been better this season, and I'm starting to think he might have the brighter future (which would be a change in my position from the start of the season). He's able to create a lot more on his own than Bedard.

 

[Incharge1976]

He is by far and away the best offensive player on the team, of course they are going to play him a ton. They have also been weirdly competitive this year despite their record, so they have been within a goal in the 3rd in almost every game this season. Of course you are going to get your best player out there in those situations. Every coach would be doing the same thing.

They shouldn't overuse him to squeeze out some more wins. They aren't good enough to make the playoffs, so they should let him naturally progress with ice time. Sure they probably get a few less wins but it's not like that's not better for them right now.

 

[BHawk21]

Celebrinis all around game is much better than Bedards. Bedard just went through a giant struggle to start the season and still is leading his team in scoring as a 19 year old. 24points in 28 games.

My guess is for the rest of this season Bedard heats back up again and beats out Celebrini in points by a decent margin. Celebrinis all around game stays better. They both continue to grow into top 10 players in the league.

Would have been the ideal 1 2 punch in Chicago. Damn

They shouldn't overuse him to squeeze out some more wins. They aren't good enough to make the playoffs, so they should let him naturally progress with ice time. Sure they probably get a few less wins but it's not like that's not better for them right now.

how are they overusing him? Hes playing 19:47 min a game and 3:30 of its on the PP. Hes the best offensive player on the hawks by far and the hawks are the lowest scoring team in the league.

 

[McFlyingV]

Celebrini is not and will not ever be better than Bedard, you fan boys of Celebrini are becoming annoying.

They're in very similar categories as players.

 

[Juxtaposer]

All joking aside, no one sane is saying that Bedard won't be a star scorer in the NHL. He's an incredible talent. Just that maybe we should put to bed the "generational" talk and admit that he isn't in a separate tier from Celebrini and Michkov.

Those three guys are the NHL stars of tomorrow.

 

[Brookbank]

Posting for the record later

Hockey Collectors Starting to Call Bedard a Bust

 

[OverTheLine]

I think the answer to the thread title is both yes and no. No in the sense that it seems fairly unlikely he'll crack the Crosby/McDavid threshold and enter the extremely exclusive pantheon of players with an argument at Top 10/Top 5 all time.

Yes in the sense that people saying he's a bust are completely bonkers. The kid is very much on track to becoming a top-level star in this league, and I think it's clear that while he probably will never become the unanimous best player of his generation (ala a Crosby or McD), he very easily could still become a MacKinnon level player who is in the conversation for the best player in the league for at least a few years of his career.

This however is also true for Michkov and Celebrini; I think all three are showing similar levels of potential star-power and Hawks fans who are still clinging on to the narrative that Bedard is head-and-shoulders above them are a little out of touch. He could end up being a tier above them, but either of them could just as easily end up a tier above him. At this point it's too early to tell, and it's clear his size and skating are big issues that he needs to address in order to unlock his full potential as the game-breaking superstar he should ultimately turn out to be.

 

[FDBluth]

Neither Michkov or Celebrini are leading their team in points or points per game. Bedard is easily leading his team in points per game. And did last year too. This year there's ONE other player on his team that is on pace for more than 40 points. Like how is that even possible in today's NHL.

Even though none of their teams are good, Bedard's is frickin' terrible.

 

[Luigi Lemieux]

Neither Michkov or Celebrini are leading their team in points or points per game. Bedard is easily leading his team in points per game. And did last year too. This year there's ONE other player on his team that is on pace for more than 40 points. Like how is that even possible in today's NHL.

Even though none of their teams are good, Bedard's is frickin' terrible.

Absolutely massive failure on Chicago's part. How do you do that to your young star. I mean SJ isn't good yet either but at least they have a few decent players and play a fun style.

 

[Turin]

Celebrini is not and will not ever be better than Bedard, you fan boys of Celebrini are becoming annoying.

He is better than Bedard right now.