Proposal: Habs-Van blockbuster

[JuniorNelson]

Just informationally, I think the Sedins are going to be split soon. It's the only sensible solution Vancouver can enact without horrific cost. In the event they are split their individual value can be calculated.

Daniel has a comparable in Eriksson and I do not feel a discount is warranted.

Henrik, if switched to wing, may remain in Vancouver up to the deadline to demonstrate his value. If he refuses to go to the wing, his value is impacted and a twenty five percent salary retention is fair. If he is moved without Daniel, then fifty percent is not unreasonable. Be assured Henrik has value as a set up man or powerplay specialist but he is too slow to center without speedy linemates.

Edler is Canucks number one and is def not on the table.

Henrik (%50 retained) and Burrows for Sergachev and a pick?

 

[go4hockey]

Gotta give salary to take the twins on your team... and not only cap dump, we're talking about 14M.

This says it all there is no way Van can move these guys as no team will have the cap room or be willing to trade back young good players to work the cap. The twins will end in Van if they will not go separate.

 

[go4hockey]

How many threads are there going to be about trading the Sedin Twins to the Habs??

That said... I would give up Plekanec + DD + good prospect + 1st 2017 for both Sedins (4m retained total).

^^^* this said means you have no interest in the twins as that is a total junk offer. Nobody wants DD and that "good prospect" would have to be your best prospect. Your living in a Habs fantasy land.

 

[A Loyal Demidog]

^^^* this said means you have no interest in the twins as that is a total junk offer. Nobody wants DD and that "good prospect" would have to be your best prospect. Your living in a Habs fantasy land.

Plekanec is far from being junk. A 1st + good prospect is far from being junk. DD is just for salary cap purposes. Also, Sedins are 37 year old, not 30. If they were 30, it would be a WAY, WAY different proposal. Also, this thread is MTL-VAN. I don't see how MTL trades away a core player that's necessary for a Cup run for the Sedins. Only Plekanec can be traded, since H. Sedin would take his place.

That said, I've been going through your posts all over this board, and it's clear you have serious issues considering every post you make you tend to try to insult others for their "junk" proposals.

 

[hockeyheadlines]

No to the Sedins.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Change Pacioretty to Sergachev.

Henrik Sedin 2 million retained
Daniel Sedin 2 Million retained
Alex Edler

For


Plekanec
Beaulieu
Sergachev
1st

 

[hockeyheadlines]

Change Pacioretty to Sergachev.

Henrik Sedin 2 million retained
Daniel Sedin 2 Million retained
Alex Edler

For


Plekanec
Beaulieu
Sergachev
1st

Montreal does not want the Sedins. Pass them on to someone else.

 

[Lebowski]

That's absolutely dreadful for the Habs.

 

[Video Coach]

Certainly the Habs could use another 2 legit top 6 forwards but I don't think there's a match because the Habs are a skating team in all 3 zones and I don't think the twins can play that game.

 

[Prairie Habs]

Please remember your cup run is predicated on ufa radulov, and ufa plekz, dd etc.

The op's proposal is a hail mary to connect the best team in the league THIS year.

Outside of your first which has little value you're giving up nothing long term...yes I value Nathan that low. One could argue losing patches and his contract allows you to resign radulov...

It essentially gives you a free play...go all in

Ah, so losing a 30+ goal scorer at 4.5M and gaining two 37 year olds at 14M would free enough cap space?

 

[Lebowski]

Certainly the Habs could use another 2 legit top 6 forwards but I don't think there's a match because the Habs are a skating team in all 3 zones and I don't think the twins can play that game.

Adding the Sedins at the cost of Pacioretty and Plekanec doesn't do a whole lot for us.

Factor in age and contract and I wouldn't even do that deal on its own.

 

[Ace of Hades]

Sedins are 36 not 37. Not that its a huge difference but correction is required.

 

[TacitEndorsement]

Brutal trade for the Canadiens.

 

[jacks*]

Change Pacioretty to Sergachev.

Henrik Sedin 2 million retained
Daniel Sedin 2 Million retained
Alex Edler

For


Plekanec
Beaulieu
Sergachev
1st

Take off the 1st and Sergachev add in DD and the Habs may think about it if the Nucks retain 50 % of the twins contracts.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

Montreal :

Henrik Sedin (1.5M retained)
Daniel Sedin (1.5M retained)
Alex Edler

Vancouver :

Max Pac
Tomas Plekanec
Nathan Beaulieu
1st+2nd if habs make final

Habs go all in for the next 2 years with a supreme 1-2 punch. Aging Sedins against second pairs would still be effective, plus it's a perfect fit for Gallagher's game. Edler garanties a solid first pair till 2019 with Captain Weber.

Vancouver gets a great scoring LH on a friendly contract for 3 years minimum, an aging but still effective center in Plekanec, who's essential for the cap situation but can be traded for futures later. They can also finally start the youth transition with the picks and a young top 4D with size and speed.

IMO most teams can't afford the Sedins last 2 years for the asking price, who needs a new 14M second line? For the habs it makes perfect sense timing wise, they need a second line and they'd be over the top until price gets paid. They have to waive desharnais or cap dump someone somewhere to make it work this year.

Fair or not?

No team will give up that much for the Sedin's their cap hits are simply too much. Even if we retain 50%, that is still 7 million against the cap. They will retire Canucks. Period.

 

[Brock Radunske]

Montreal :

Henrik Sedin (1.5M retained)
Daniel Sedin (1.5M retained)
Alex Edler

Vancouver :

Max Pac
Tomas Plekanec
Nathan Beaulieu
1st+2nd if habs make final

Habs go all in for the next 2 years with a supreme 1-2 punch. Aging Sedins against second pairs would still be effective, plus it's a perfect fit for Gallagher's game. Edler garanties a solid first pair till 2019 with Captain Weber.

Vancouver gets a great scoring LH on a friendly contract for 3 years minimum, an aging but still effective center in Plekanec, who's essential for the cap situation but can be traded for futures later. They can also finally start the youth transition with the picks and a young top 4D with size and speed.

IMO most teams can't afford the Sedins last 2 years for the asking price, who needs a new 14M second line? For the habs it makes perfect sense timing wise, they need a second line and they'd be over the top until price gets paid. They have to waive desharnais or cap dump someone somewhere to make it work this year.

Fair or not?

Change Pleks to one of McCarron/Juulsen and take off the conditions to the picks and its a lot closer

 

[hockeyheadlines]

Change Pleks to one of McCarron/Juulsen and take off the conditions to the picks and its a lot closer

No it's not. Trade the Sedins to Toronto instead for JVR and Nylander or Marner.

 

[Brock Radunske]

No it's not. Trade the Sedins to Toronto instead for JVR and Nylander or Marner.

How is that relevant?
And are you forgetting Edler? Literally Vancouver's three best players.
The OP is the one wanting Montreal to load up for the playoffs

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

No it's not. Trade the Sedins to Toronto instead for JVR and Nylander or Marner.

Sarcasm?

 

[hockeyheadlines]

How is that relevant?
And are you forgetting Edler? Literally Vancouver's three best players.
The OP is the one wanting Montreal to load up for the playoffs

It's relevant because I seriously doubt the OP is a Montreal fan.

We'll leave Vancouver to find another team to dump them on. I think Toronto sounds right, don't you?

 

[The Alien]

The inclusion of Pacs is an overkill. Plz remember the Sedin's are 37.

The Sedins are 37? You're about as good with facts as your temporary name-sake.

 

[Legend123]

The Sedins are 37? You're about as good with facts as your temporary name-sake.

36 same *****.

 

[Legend123]

Change Pleks to one of McCarron/Juulsen and take off the conditions to the picks and its a lot closer

This guy always expects the Habs to massively overpay for every proposal. Damn, why you the habs so much?? Tell me, whens the last time the Habs offered an overpay or at least good value in a trade since the hiring of MB?? Pacs alone would get both sedins and some of edler.

 

[HuGo Sham]

with all due respect to the nucks and sedins, habs aren't going to give up their prime assets or pacioretty for two, 36 y.o players making 7 million each. wake up

Vancity is also in no position to be asking teams to overpay. they're a non-playoff team. If this deal were to happen it would be to make sedins happy or for salary cap reasons - in other words, benning has 0 leverage. you're not getting ton of rebuilding assets OR habs captain who's 10 years younger, already has 4, 30 goal seasons - on possibly the best contract in NHL.

 

[racoon]

It's relevant because I seriously doubt the OP is a Montreal fan.

We'll leave Vancouver to find another team to dump them on. I think Toronto sounds right, don't you?

I am a montreal fan who posted this because I believe we'd have the best team in the league. Maybe the picks are too much, what if we take em out?

I don't think any habs fan can deny the fact we'd have a better team on the ice.

Henrik>>Plekanec
Edler>>>Beaulieu
Patch>>Daniel