Confirmed with Link: Guentzel's rights traded to Tampa for 25 3rd

[Lempo]

Dr. Samuel Johnson is right about Olson Johnson's being right. Guentzel kept his ask low enough that he doesn't scare away his preferred teams. Must've been a nasty shock if/when our guys met it. Gotta wonder if they did it partially out of spite in case they were suspecting that Guentzel may be acting in mala fide.

Or, perhaps, malahide.

 

[Stickpucker]

Its pretty bleak in here today, did we give up a 3 goal lead in the 3rd against WInnipeg or something?

Even worse...a 2 goal lead to the Rongos.

Are some of you this negative and/or emotional in real life? I’ve always wondered.

They did close down dorthia dix

Friedman definitely makes it sound like if we just agreed at 8x8 awhile ago we’d have him. For better or for worse we f’d around and found out. We didn’t say until Thursday we’d give him the deal he wanted awhile ago. By then teams are talking to him. We don’t have the luxury of playing that way with the big time players.

If this is TD I hope for the future he got his wings clipped and he learns from it. I doubt it.

Moving on. We’ll still be a good team.

Yeah, you can't do this with the girl everyone wants to dance with.

 

[MisterDobz]

Dr. Samuel Johnson is right about Olson Johnson's being right. Guentzel kept his ask low enough that he doesn't scare away his preferred teams. Must've been a nasty shock if/when our guys met it. Gotta wonder if they did it partially out of spite in case they were suspecting that Guentzel may be acting in mala fide.

 

[chaz4hockey]

Are some of you this negative and/or emotional in real life? I’ve always wondered.

There were a bunch of passengers on the Titanic who said happily said their ship would not go not down either.

 

[Svechhammer]

Yeah, you can't do this with the girl everyone wants to dance with.

Eventually they're going to learn that you can't play these kinds of games with top end talent because they are always going to find a top end deal somewhere because that's their worth. You don't nickel and dime the players that are in highest demand in this league and hope to actually keep or land them.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Eventually they're going to learn that you can't play these kinds of games with top end talent because they are always going to find a top end deal somewhere because that's their worth. You don't nickel and dime the players that are in highest demand in this league and hope to actually keep or land them.

Eventually fans will realize that some players prefer to play elsewhere and the cheap talk is well worn out and proven as untrue

 

[FlyingSquirrels]

Bright side: We will have a ton of unexpected Cap space. May not help this year but sure will in a few years down the road.

 

[chaz4hockey]

Eventually fans will realize that some players prefer to play elsewhere and the cheap talk is well worn out and proven as untrue

I am of the belief that Carolina should be a "go-to" market.

Carolina has great in-season weather (well not this month but Florida is a hot box too btw), fantastic/exuberant fans, great in-market people (I rate NC as the best State in the US), great place to raise a family with good Triangle schools, & by 2025 will rank just after the non-tax states for lower taxes, etc.

Owners matter.....lots of examples of downtrodden markets in professional sports turning around with the right owner creating an environment in which top players want to go there versus the "top" markets such as NY, LA, etc.

What the Canes are lacking right now is an owner that markets to players versus one that has to negotiate with every agent & who has to win every deal (like he is in the sub-prime/private equity business). Dundon appears to be an introvert with articles stating he has "no friends" and that is a negative when you are leading a people business (good for drafts though).

FWIW: I also think losing DW who is a top shelf person, takes away the human side of the franchise and that is a loss.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

I am of the belief that Carolina should be a "go-to" market.

Carolina has great in-season weather (well not this month but Florida is a hot box too btw), fantastic/exuberant fans, great in-market people (I rate NC as the best State in the US), good place to raise a family with good Triangle schools, & by 2025 will rank just after the non-tax states for lower taxes, etc.

Owners matter.....lots of examples of downtrodden markets in professional sports turning around with the right owner creating an environment in which top players want to go there versus the "top" markets such as NY, LA, etc.

What the Canes are lacking right now is an owner that markets to players versus one that has to negotiate with every agent & who has to win every deal (like he is in the sub-prime/private equity business). Dundon appears to be an introvert with articles stating he has "no friends" and that is a negative when you are leading a people business (good for drafts though).

FWIW: I also think losing DW who is a top shelf person, takes away the human side of the franchise and that is a loss.

Being a go to market doesn’t mean everyone wants to come here. We have a good market that players want to play in.

Tampa still has the best extras in the game. That matters to players. Tom D has spent a ton to up our extras but I doubt they match TBs.

folks are reading too much into tom D with very little information to try to make an excuse for 2 players who chose elsewhere

 

[Blueline Bomber]

folks are reading too much into tom D with very little information to try to make an excuse for 2 players who chose elsewhere

Sounds more like you’re trying to make an excuse for TomD to deny the repeated allegations about him.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Sounds more like you’re trying to make an excuse for TomD to deny the repeated allegations about him.

However you want to spin it

 

[CandyCanes]

Guentzel you good sleezy negotiator you… If I’m Canes management today I throw a Hail Mary and say f*** you, here’s a 8x8.5M deal Guentz.

 

[Justicebork]

Guentzel you good sleezy negotiator you… If I’m Canes management today I throw a Hail Mary and say f*** you, here’s a 8x8.5M deal Guentz.

We should leak an 8x11M offer without even making such an offer. Chaos. It'll be the NHL offseason version of a bloodsport massacre

 

[Lempo]

Guentzel you good sleezy negotiator you… If I’m Canes management today I throw a Hail Mary and say f*** you, here’s a 8x8.5M deal Guentz.

Or we could get a pick or something out of signing him to an 8 x whatevts contract and trading him to his preferred team before the Free Agency starts.

 

[Rick Davis]

Time to face it fellow Caniacs if FA negotiations for desired players involves teams from Florida we’re going to lose every time. For our particular market it’s best to build from within our system and make hockey trades when available…

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Remember, Gaudreau originally said he wanted to stay in Calgary and Calgary reportedly offered him more than CLB.

Every player gives lip service and says they want to re-sign.

 

[Lempo]

Every player gives lip service and says they want to re-sign.

I do think quite a many has been very fortright in that they "will test the free agency", which I have always took as an euphemism for yeah probably not gonna.

 

[Highest Boss]

 

[HisIceness]

Couldn't get it done. Unreal.

Hopefully Tampa overpays the shit out of him

 

[Jerkob Slavin]

It appears to be over now. Canes Twitter reporting we’ve dealt JG for a 2025 3rd.

 

[Wolfpuck]

Welp.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Oh well. I always thought it was unlikely anyway. The Necas fallout made it seem possible, but back before trading him seemed inevitable there just didn’t seem like any way we’d make it happen with Guentzel.

We’ll see what plan B is.

 

[Lempo]

Please change the title to Confirmed with Link.

 

[HisIceness]

Go get Leon next summer.

 

[Svechhammer]

Good job, front office. Really f***ed yourself in the ass with this one