Grub's Canucks & NHL News, Rumours, and & Fantasy GM | Trade Winds Coming Early

[JT Milker]

How often is Petey a "top 10-12 player" though? Don't get me wrong, I really like EP when he's firing on all cylinders, but it is frustrating that it seems like a relatively infrequent thing. I do agree that Brady Tkachuk is nothing like Lindros, there is nobody like Lindros...I'd say he's more like a Brendan Shanahan, or like his dad Keith. He'll probably go down as one of the best power forwards of this generation, mostly because they seem to be a dying breed, but he does bring a level of intensity and an imposing physical game that is pretty rare these days...I'm not sure where you've come up with the rankings but I would certainly rank Brady Tkachuk higher than 35th, and I wouldn't lean too heavily into EP being a top 10-12 player when he's more consistently out of that range...they're probably a lot closer in value to each other IMO.

He’s one of our top 10-12 players most nights.

 

[theguardianII]

Even if we're willing (not me!) to part with the assets it would cost to bring him in, we have no way to deal with his cap hit if we want to improve the team. we're also paying a lot redundancy....he isn't taking Hughes' PPQB1 job. And his game has fallen off a lot this year he is absolutely not in the top 5 anymore. Expected goals % is barely above 50% and high danger chance and goals % are sub 50 and 40 despite extremely favorable zone starts. A lot of changes to that roster haven't helped, but the numbers are the numbers.

We need a workhorse defender who thrives on the PK, is a really good in zone defender and can move the puck well. Ideally they're a lefty.

Travis Sanheim fits the bill almost perfectly, but he is not getting traded. His teammate Cam York would be an interesting option, but why would they move him?

One name that fits, if Seattle falls out of contention, is Jamie Oleksiak. He fits cap wise, probably isn't prohibitively expensive and has an additional year on his deal.

The team has to have more than one defenceman with 40 points.

Players get hurt and Hughes is getting exposed more than most now playing almost half a game in the easy season.

Anyone would have to be blind not to have seen how he and Hronek evaporated in the real season after the first round against a not very good Nashville team.
Who stepped up? Myers and Zadorov, Myers shutting down and Zadorov doing both. These are the types of players the team needs not just a satisfied player that has found his niche and is content in that role. The team needs more scoring threats from the defence otherwise teams will just circle the wagons and check the notable threats. Myers is getting free because he is jumping up offensively and surprising some teams, he has always had that ability but due to his size his role has been more in a defensive role.

IMO you want players that have expressed they believe that they could be better, like Zadorov and Jiricek because they will work hard to prove themselves.
JT Miller is that kind of player which make them playoff performers.

Deharnais is struggling just to be an NHL regular, Willander hasn't even played pro hockey, prospects are hope not players, Brannstrom might be one of those types but he has a size and strength issue, not his fault.

There might be a few others out there on Buffalo buried behind Dahlin, Powers and Samuelsson< Montreal has a bushel basket of very young defenders playing, Pittsburgh might let Graves go although Pickering might be worth a chance as a depth improvement or upgrade in another month or so, Pettersson would be an upgrade on the AHL guys but then the team is spending more on a real #5/6 guy than they wanted to spend on a proven guy that could play effectively on the top pairing in a pinch,

I guess a question is are the Canucks ALL IN NOW or still or at all thinking of the future in 2 or 3 years? IF NOW then all picks and prospects are in play because none will be impact players on known if they can be for another 3 years.

 

[Bobby9]

Love Brock but no thanks to a 8 year contract.

 

[Ernie]

8 years is a lot for a 28 year old who has been very inconsistent throughout his career. He certainly won't get to 40 goals this season. Perhaps the Canucks see how Lekkermaki progresses this season before they make a commitment.

 

[Diversification]

Love Brock but no thanks to a 8 year contract.

He's the sort of player that TBL would move on from.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

With Detroit going nowhere (again), I wonder if mgmt inquires about Rasmussen. Doubtful he gets dealt but worth a call.

I'd also inquire about Reichel in Chicago.

Team needs another LW given how weak it is on that side and assuming Hoglander is eventually dealt.

As far as defense is concerned, I'd look at Anaheim as they have a few options.

I also can't imagine VD getting much more rope. He's an anchor right now and the signing (even at $2M) is not looking good.

 

[Burke's Evil Spirit]

Even if we're willing (not me!) to part with the assets it would cost to bring him in, we have no way to deal with his cap hit if we want to improve the team. we're also paying a lot redundancy....he isn't taking Hughes' PPQB1 job. And his game has fallen off a lot this year he is absolutely not in the top 5 anymore. Expected goals % is barely above 50% and high danger chance and goals % are sub 50 and 40 despite extremely favorable zone starts. A lot of changes to that roster haven't helped, but the numbers are the numbers.

We need a workhorse defender who thrives on the PK, is a really good in zone defender and can move the puck well. Ideally they're a lefty.

Travis Sanheim fits the bill almost perfectly, but he is not getting traded. His teammate Cam York would be an interesting option, but why would they move him?

One name that fits, if Seattle falls out of contention, is Jamie Oleksiak. He fits cap wise, probably isn't prohibitively expensive and has an additional year on his deal.

This is exactly where I'm at, too. Other names to potentially consider:

Hampus Lindholm
Adam Pelech
Cam Fowler (Adminttedly not a great PKer but would be a terrific 5-on-5 asset for this team)

If there is any smoke at *all* to the K'Andre Miller rumors the Canucks should be in on that.

 

[Ernie]

He's the sort of player that TBL would move on from.

And Vegas.

 

[Jerry the great]

Boeser knows he's riding JT's coattails a bit - he said it outright on the spittin chicklets podcast last year - so maybe he's flexible on term. I'd offer $8MM on a 5 year deal (expires at the same time Miller's deal), but no chance i'd go 8 years unless the cap hit was less than $7MM (and it would need to be structured so he's easy to dump in the last 2 years).

 

[StreetHawk]

8 years is a lot for a 28 year old who has been very inconsistent throughout his career. He certainly won't get to 40 goals this season. Perhaps the Canucks see how Lekkermaki progresses this season before they make a commitment.

He will be a 28 year old, not great skater. So, term is a big issue with his skating. Like the guy, but 8 years is a long time. DeBrusk went in the same draft, and got 7 years this off-season, so it would be the same as Brock getting 6 years for both to end at the same time.

I'd like to see a reduction on max term deals. NBA is at 5/4 I believe. But not sure what the NHL could offer the PA to take a reduction down to 6/5 or even 7/6 might be too hard. Main things the NHL could give up are lower UFA from 27 down to like 26. Include some revenue not part of HRR, increase player % of HRR, arb rights for anyone coming off elc, etc. But, this is more a GM thing than an owner thing. All it does is redistribute the salary cap. Cut down years, then the AAV is higher as that last year or 2 is going to be worth less in real dollars. Shesh in years 7/8 gets $9.5 mill per year in real money. So, you'd be adding an extra $700K roughly onto the $11.5 mill cap number to get to $12.2 million AAV on a 6 year term or $300K on a 7 year term, as an example, though I think the real money difference would be more.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

I don't know how quick I'd be to move on from Boeser. He was huge in the post season last year, is a character guy, and was off to another strong start before Jeannot concussed him.

I get the theory of replacing guys internally to keep the cap strong, but I don't see anyone prepared to step into his shoes as soon as next season. And the cost to acquire such a player by trade or free agency would likely be just as, if not more, prohibitive.

 

[Burke's Evil Spirit]

He will be a 28 year old, not great skater. So, term is a big issue with his skating. Like the guy, but 8 years is a long time. DeBrusk went in the same draft, and got 7 years this off-season, so it would be the same as Brock getting 6 years for both to end at the same time.

I'd like to see a reduction on max term deals. NBA is at 5/4 I believe. But not sure what the NHL could offer the PA to take a reduction down to 6/5 or even 7/6 might be too hard. Main things the NHL could give up are lower UFA from 27 down to like 26. Include some revenue not part of HRR, increase player % of HRR, arb rights for anyone coming off elc, etc. But, this is more a GM thing than an owner thing. All it does is redistribute the salary cap. Cut down years, then the AAV is higher as that last year or 2 is going to be worth less in real dollars. Shesh in years 7/8 gets $9.5 mill per year in real money. So, you'd be adding an extra $700K roughly onto the $11.5 mill cap number to get to $12.2 million AAV on a 6 year term or $300K on a 7 year term, as an example, though I think the real money difference would be more.

Not being a great skater might be an asset as he ages - he will know how to be effective without mobility. Joe Pavelski is a good example of this.

That being said, 8 years on Brock is a tough pill to swallow. And to be honest if I had to choose between re-upping Boeser or Garland, I would choose Garland 10 times out of 10 - he'll come a lot cheaper and on shorter term.

 

[StreetHawk]

Not being a great skater might be an asset as he ages - he will know how to be effective without mobility. Joe Pavelski is a good example of this.

That being said, 8 years on Brock is a tough pill to swallow. And to be honest if I had to choose between re-upping Boeser or Garland, I would choose Garland 10 times out of 10 - he'll come a lot cheaper and on shorter term.

Pav thought the game at such a high level. Not sure Brock would be in the same realm as Joe in that regard.

But, it's the reality of free agency.

 

[Peen]

He will be a 28 year old, not great skater. So, term is a big issue with his skating. Like the guy, but 8 years is a long time. DeBrusk went in the same draft, and got 7 years this off-season, so it would be the same as Brock getting 6 years for both to end at the same time.

I'd like to see a reduction on max term deals. NBA is at 5/4 I believe. But not sure what the NHL could offer the PA to take a reduction down to 6/5 or even 7/6 might be too hard. Main things the NHL could give up are lower UFA from 27 down to like 26. Include some revenue not part of HRR, increase player % of HRR, arb rights for anyone coming off elc, etc. But, this is more a GM thing than an owner thing. All it does is redistribute the salary cap. Cut down years, then the AAV is higher as that last year or 2 is going to be worth less in real dollars. Shesh in years 7/8 gets $9.5 mill per year in real money. So, you'd be adding an extra $700K roughly onto the $11.5 mill cap number to get to $12.2 million AAV on a 6 year term or $300K on a 7 year term, as an example, though I think the real money difference would be more.

NHLers should be making more per year but the contract lengths should come down, totally right.

Should absolutely match NBA contract lengths. Teams need to be accountable and player movement makes shit fun.

 

[pitseleh]

A few more Hughes / no Hughes stats (all 5v5):

- No player is above 50% CF% when Hughes is on the bench. The same was true in the playoffs last year (except Juulsen in very limited minutes), so we’ve got a half season worth of games where that has been the case.

- Forbort, Brannstrom and Sprong are the three highest CF% when Hughes is on the bench. Two obviously don’t matter much since they hardly played.

- Sherwood, Pettersson and Suter are the only three regular forwards above 45% (all between 46-47%) when Hughes is off the ice.

- Boeser, Heinen and Miller have the worst results without Hughes, in the 38-39% range.

- The team has a 39% CF rate when neither Brannstrom nor Hughes are on the ice. That’s in almost 40% of the team’s 5v5 ice time.

 

[Burke's Evil Spirit]

A few more Hughes / no Hughes stats (all 5v5):

- No player is above 50% CF% when Hughes is on the bench. The same was true in the playoffs last year (except Juulsen in very limited minutes), so we’ve got a half season worth of games where that has been the case.

- Forbort, Brannstrom and Sprong are the three highest CF% when Hughes is on the bench. Two obviously don’t matter much since they hardly played.

- Sherwood, Pettersson and Suter are the only three regular forwards above 45% (all between 46-47%) when Hughes is off the ice.

- Boeser, Heinen and Miller have the worst results without Hughes, in the 38-39% range.

- The team has a 39% CF rate when neither Brannstrom nor Hughes are on the ice. That’s in almost 40% of the team’s 5v5 ice time.

Where are people getting WOWY stats these days?

 

[Deeds26]

Tomorrow is Pride Night, which means a Provorov trade is coming today E4

 

[Bobby9]

6x6 is where I want the team to land w BB6

That would put him at like 76M over his career w the Canucks.

 

[brock hughes007]

Boeser update.

The jump from $6.65 to $8 isn't enormous, IMO. I'm a big Boeser fan and want him to stay. But I think the term and what the cap does will be key points.

Good luck..40goals 1 time in his career.
Soft player ,lazy at times skates like he is stuck in cement.Often injured.I think we can find someone better for that money.So big pass for me.

 

[sting101]

Even if we're willing (not me!) to part with the assets it would cost to bring him in, we have no way to deal with his cap hit if we want to improve the team. we're also paying a lot redundancy....he isn't taking Hughes' PPQB1 job. And his game has fallen off a lot this year he is absolutely not in the top 5 anymore. Expected goals % is barely above 50% and high danger chance and goals % are sub 50 and 40 despite extremely favorable zone starts. A lot of changes to that roster haven't helped, but the numbers are the numbers.

We need a workhorse defender who thrives on the PK, is a really good in zone defender and can move the puck well. Ideally they're a lefty.

Travis Sanheim fits the bill almost perfectly, but he is not getting traded. His teammate Cam York would be an interesting option, but why would they move him?

One name that fits, if Seattle falls out of contention, is Jamie Oleksiak. He fits cap wise, probably isn't prohibitively expensive and has an additional year on his deal.

Oleksiak and Pelech would be 2 guys i would be calling on. Get this year and 1 or 3 more without having to hand a UFA a anchor deal and phase in EP2 hopefully

 

[pitseleh]

Where are people getting WOWY stats these days?

I use Natural Stat Trick. Combination of the Player Index and Line Tool.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

If the Nucks don't give Boeser what he wants, someone in FA will.

With the Cap increasing significantly, there will be plenty of interest.

 

[sting101]

Vinny D is the easy choice to move on from, give Forbort a little rope see what he can provide
Brannstrom is fine in and out of the line up, I wouldn’t complain one bit about his game he’s been head and shoulders better than everybody not named Hughes or Soucy
Myers has been decent enough, he can’t seem to get a shot through

Hindsight being 20/20 we should have kept Ian Cole for one more year while we wait for the farm team to produce

yes Cole at 3m vs Forbort and Desharnais at 3.5. would have much preferred that.

 

[brock hughes007]

If the Nucks don't give Boeser what he wants, someone in FA will.

With the Cap increasing significantly, there will be plenty of interest.

I'm sure it will be nice for him to go home to Minnesota

 

[Vector]

Frank Seravalli's interview with Halford & Brough this morning.

Canucks Home Record

• Doesn’t understand why they play so poorly at home
• They get home and forget how to play hockey

Miller

• Logical next step is to practice today
• Imagine he’ll be back at some time on this homestand
• Nothing is set in stone
• Is going to have to speak to the media at some point

Cam Fowler

• Really likes Cam Fowler as a fit for the Canucks; doesn’t know the plausibility of it
• Knows his tenure in Anaheim is coming to an end
• Has a 4 team NTC
• Is willing to work with the Ducks to find a place that fits for him
• Thinks Fowler has lots of game left
• Believes there will be a bounce-back
• If the Ducks are willing to retain 50%, he is a very attractive trade piece

Nashville Predators

• Would be shocked if nothing happens by the end of this week
• Predators were really active last week when speaking to teams and many thought the Predators were really close in making something happen
• Other teams got a sense that Trotz isn’t completely convinced he knows what he wants to do
• For all intents and purposes, their season is over
• Thinks Trotz feels a lot of responsibility, as a former coach, to blame Brunette for this season
• Believes Stamkos was completely shell-shocked for the first two months of the season after leaving Tampa Bay

Brady Tkachuk

• Soft tampering is made up and means nothing
• No proof, no hard evidence, and the Senators don’t even pretend that there’s any evidence
• No NHL investigation
• In order to open a tampering investigation, evidence must be supplied

New York Ranger

• Can’t make changes based on the results of one game
• Rangers were 12-7-1 before Drury sent out that memo and 14-12-1 afterwards
• Rangers are waiting to see how the season goes after trading Trouba

Buffalo Sabres

• Sabres have been in a spiral for weeks
• Sabres are, next to the Predators, are the most interesting team in the league
• Mentions that Jack Quinn has been a frequent healthy scratch
• Cold, snow, and taxes aren’t the reason people don’t want to go to
• Buffalo; support is for the team is fantastic and the suburbs are fantastic; it’s only a bad place to play when the team is garbage
• Cycle of dumpster fires