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[Jyrki21]

Confirmed...



Too funny. There was also that time Shorthouse won the draw live on air.

 

[Delocatedfan]

Batherson would be a very good add but not sure the Vancouver Canucks have the pieces or cap space next year to add him while keeping Brock / Suter around.

Also did JT look off still to anyone else? I get its his first media appearance but he looked like a guy going through the motions

 

[StreetHawk]

Batherson would be a very good add but not sure the Vancouver Canucks have the pieces or cap space next year to add him while keeping Brock / Suter around.

Also did JT look off still to anyone else? I get its his first media appearance but he looked like a guy going through the motions

Canucks have limited assets. Cutoff is back to Hughes in Rd 1 of 2018. Since then, either the picks didn't amount to anything or were used in trade, often resulting in nothing right now aside from Miller for the 2019 3rd and 2020 1st. OEL deal with Garland cost a 1st and 2nd. Dick/Mik cost assets to dump. Add in the Lindholm trade, there isn't much left from post Q. Hughes.

It's Hog who isn't fitting in with Tocchet. Klim, Lekky, D Petey, KK in the AHL. Wallinder in college. Mynio in WHL.

Just draft capital really left to use as they need to hold onto Wallinder. So, that doesn't fit what some clubs need in return for their players.

 

[ephmrl]

Wonder if a Hoglander for Krebs swap would make sense for both teams. Krebs seems under utilized in Buffalo.

Maybe a bigger package of Byram + Krebs for Hoglander + picks + prospect?

 

[MS]

Dhaliwal reporting today on the show that he’s heard Deharnais’s name out there. Mentioned he’s heard it from a few sources.

Goes on to say that the Canucks have no issues moving on from guys who don’t work out. I’m paraphrasing but that’s the gist.

Deharnais is slow but also really struggles to move the puck under pressure. Could see a team him on though.

This is exactly what should be happening. It isn't working out and he's not a top-6 guy and not worth $2 million.

They already have Noah Juulsen as a 7RHD making $800k. Desharnais doesn't have a sport or a role here and needs to go.

 

[Bleach Clean]

The promise of Desharnais to what he actually is... Yeah, they have to move him. I hope this gets them to rethink their Tree-focused strategy on defense.

I wonder if WSH would consider a Desharnais for Bear swap? They're both at $2m, VD has the extra year, and Bear is in the minors at present.

Maybe Calgary too if they're willing to deal out Barrie.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

VD, Hoglander + pick/prospect for Petterson + O'Connor.

 

[wonton15]

Wouldn’t surprise me if they threw Heinen’s name out there too. Probably doesn’t have that much value, but I imagine they’re not sold on dumping Hoglander yet. Can’t roll out Hog and Heinen at $3M and $2.5M next year if they’re going to play like this.

 

[sting101]

VD just always seems like something you want to get rid of

 

[sting101]

yes Heinen/Hoglander...i would even add Suter if i thought Raty could move into his spot. Skatng is still an issue though even if it's getting closer. Can't risk being deficient down the middle vs losing a winger.

Desharnais is 2 million wasted and needs to go.

Krebs and Jokiharju should be of interest.

 

[TruGr1t]

Nobody is trading for Heinen or Desharnais. Give your head a shake. WTF.

"Here have these crappy contracts we literally just signed ... durrrr."

 

[credulous]

Nobody is trading for Heinen or Desharnais. Give your head a shake. WTF.

counterpoint: heinen, desharnais and a 2nd for rasmus andersson?

 

[TruGr1t]

counterpoint: heinen, desharnais and a 2nd for rasmus andersson?

Way shittier than Raymond, Ballard and a 2nd.

 

[VanillaCoke]

Ppl still bringing up Ethan bear as any kind of option is laughable nonsense and peak dim jim.

Ethan bear is garbage and not an NHL player, is not, and has not been for many years and many franchises.

 

[calnuck]

yes Heinen/Hoglander...i would even add Suter if i thought Raty could move into his spot. Skatng is still an issue though even if it's getting closer. Can't risk being deficient down the middle vs losing a winger.

Desharnais is 2 million wasted and needs to go.

Krebs and Jokiharju should be of interest.

Trading Suter is an awful idea. Dude brings a ton of value relative to his cap hit

 

[LemonSauceD]

Heinen + Desharnais and a 4th + C prospect or something for Krebs and Jokiharju.

Buffalo would definitely be the type of team take on veterans.

 

[bossram]

Trading Suter is an awful idea. Dude brings a ton of value relative to his cap hit

The guy's been doing the job keeping them afloat as 2C for $1.6M...so trade him? He can play wing on your top line. He can solidify the bottom-six. Yeah. I don't get some people. Bafflling.

 

[God]

Batherson would be a very good add but not sure the Vancouver Canucks have the pieces or cap space next year to add him while keeping Brock / Suter around.

Batherson is similar to Boeser - complementary player, great offensively but not great defensively. And we probably only have space for one of him and Brock, and I probably defer to the homegrown guy.

 

[Nucker101]

VD, Hoglander + pick/prospect for Petterson + O'Connor.

If they do chase Pettersson, I love the idea of trying to get O'Connor too.

 

[sting101]

Trading Suter is an awful idea. Dude brings a ton of value relative to his cap hit

He's UFA though. So does Hoglander at his current cap hit once he gets going which he will

 

[Hodgy]

Nobody is trading for Heinen or Desharnais. Give your head a shake. WTF.

"Here have these crappy contracts we literally just signed ... durrrr."

I don't really think Heinen and Desharnais are comparable at all. Desharnais doesn't look like a consistent NHL player, and certainly not on a competitive team, while Heinen looks fines to me although his point totals are bit lower than you'd expect.

 

[Josepho]

Heinen is a nothingy defensive 3rd liner making nothing defensive 3rd liner money. I don't really think there should be any issue moving his contract if the team decides to do that.

Desharnais, no idea. Columbus/Anaheim have terrible PKs and a lot of money, so maybe not impossible.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

I could see a team out there having interest in a guy like Desharnais. The question is for what in return. My money would be on a player in somewhat similar circumstances (struggling in their current fit) and maybe comparable cap, too.

 

[Rotang]

Looking at numbers for defenders (ES, min 1000 mins across 23/24 and 24/25 combined), one thing that stands out is that the Canucks have the two worst defenders in the league in primary assists/60: Desharnais and Soucy.

Desharnais has zero primary assists in over 1200 minutes played. Soucy had one in 1000 minutes played.

Even a guy like Juulsen had three in under 700 minutes last year.

If you told me that stat about Soucy at the beginning of the year I wouldn't believe you, his fall-off has been remarkable. Desharnais... less surprising.

 

[sting101]

The guy's been doing the job keeping them afloat as 2C for $1.6M...so trade him? He can play wing on your top line. He can solidify the bottom-six. Yeah. I don't get some people. Bafflling.

Trading Suter is an awful idea. Dude brings a ton of value relative to his cap hit

Ok go back to Desharnais Heinen Karlsson for KeAndre Miller then. Rangers will be drooling over that package.

The point is Suter has had a hot start (22% shooting vs his typical 12-13%) and represents value and for some teams a stop gap top6 who would probably re sign at a decent rate. For us he's a good player but not great as a top6 or as a 3C and will want a significant raise.

You have to give something to get teams don't want all our bad contracts. As i said it would be contingent on Raty taking steps he hasn't yet or maybe if you get Krebs Jokiharju and move Suter Heinen Desharnais you take that and run