gary69
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I hate VAR. So many beautiful goals denied.
Yeah, in the past this would have been celebrated as an entertaing match with some great goals.
I hate VAR. So many beautiful goals denied.
As opposed to what this was, which was an entertaining matchYeah, in the past this would have been celebrated as an entertaing match with some great goals.
Now I don’t know what to believe, because they’ve both never had a correct opinion but objectively one of them has to be right on thisKevin Kilbane and Steven Caldwell are arguing about the handball on TSN.
There is no doubt there was contact between ball and hand, the question is whether it gave an advantage, isn't that the handball standard? In my opinion the replays are inconclusive in this regard.It’s not egregious handball by any means and probably could’ve gone either way without VAR, but it’s quite hilarious how there are people who actually act like it’s a huge injustice to call it when the ball very clearly hits someone in the hand.
I was celebrating 3 times like crazy and we only won 1-0.Yeah, in the past this would have been celebrated as an entertaing match with some great goals.
They call that exact handball 99% of the time it happens in the midfield, sometimes multiple times a game. The moment you allow it just because it led to a goal, it has become a advantage.There is no doubt there was contact between ball and hand, the question is whether it gave an advantage, isn't that the handball standard? In my opinion the replays are inconclusive in this regard.
As opposed to what this was, which was an entertaining match
Slovakia had a ton of guys go to ground for 2-3 min at a time along with max subs. Could have easily seen 9-10min.Jesus H
How much extra time was given for Belgium to get back in the game.
The question really is whether it's deliberate and they've developed a few standards to determine that (because they can't read people's minds). Openda's contact meets the standard pretty easily because his arm is extended and he knows where the ball is i.e. it's not so much whether he actively seeks out to handle it, it's that he happily accepts that his hand could be helpful in controlling the ball.There is no doubt there was contact between ball and hand, the question is whether it gave an advantage, isn't that the handball standard? In my opinion the replays are inconclusive in this regard.
Either of those you mention would be bigger. By a country mile.Fox kept harping on about this was the biggest upset in Euro history, I guess if you're looking at strictly FIFA Rankings yes (though Belgium probably shouldn't be 3rd in the world), but I mean come on the first game of a group stage can't compare to some of the wins Greece got in 2004 or Iceland vs. England (2016)
The UEFA rules specifically state that when judging handball intent does not matter. It's a faul whether deliberate or not. Intent may be used for additional penalties like a issuing a yellow card or sending the player off.The question really is whether it's deliberate
First of all, UEFA doesn't make those rules - they follow the Laws of the Game. I read the current rule yesterday and I've followed how this rule has evolved over the last number of decades. I mean I've literally argued with other kids about this rule in like 1987 - because it's always been a cause of controversy at just about every level of the sport. I'm aware of what it currently says.The UEFA rules specifically state that when judging handball intent does not matter. It's a faul whether deliberate or not. Intent may be used for additional penalties like a issuing a yellow card or sending the player off.
There was a write up on sportingnews just a couple of days ago.
Handball rules in football explained, including latest changes by FIFA, Premier League to hand ball in soccer | Sporting News United Kingdom
It is well-established that using your arms or hands is not allowed in football. Yet changes to the rules have made it difficult to comprehend for players, coaches, fans and even officials themselves.www.sportingnews.com