Kaako Kappo
Kaako Kappo
There is no ****ing upward trend. The opponents have been garbage aside from the Czech, and our game has looked like ******* since beginning. Nothing has evolved.
GDT: Group B - May 13 - Norway (2) vs Finland (3) OT
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There is no ****ing upward trend. The opponents have been garbage aside from the Czech, and our game has looked like ******* since beginning. Nothing has evolved.
Or you are just plain wrong, because you seem to really like Marjamäki a lot, and give him constantly excuses for whatever reasons. So it is after all you who goes here with feelings. The facts tell that Finland is playing very badly under him. Every game is very difficult, even how weak the opponent would be. The results and how bad the play looks like are the facts.
I remember you always speaking highly of him as a coach. Maybe you need to understand that Marjamäki is not after all such a great coach that you so much wanted him to be?
StiffSquid
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Fact is that there is no upward trend. Team plays like crap. And why do you watch hockey then? Hockey is all about emotions and feels. Because if it's not , then what is left?
I don't know of course how the people in power for the job of the coach for the national team in the ice hockey association think. But may be the team needs to miss the quarterfinal before they fire Marjamäki. Possibly high loss in quarterfinal isn't reason enough for them to do it.
Gsus
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There's nothing wrong with being emotional. But analyzing the game while under emotion is rarely generating any worthwhile opinions.
And once again, since my neutrality seems to tick you lot off and you constantly seem to miss it: If this team doesn't reach the QF, I'll be fully of the mind that Marjamäki needs to go.
If this team doesn't reach the QF, I'll be fully of the mind that Marjamäki needs to go.
If this team doesn't reach the QF, I'll be fully of the mind that Marjamäki needs to go.
If this team doesn't reach the QF, I'll be fully of the mind that Marjamäki needs to go.
If this team doesn't reach the QF, I'll be fully of the mind that Marjamäki needs to go.
If this team doesn't reach the QF, I'll be fully of the mind that Marjamäki needs to go.
If this team doesn't reach the QF, I'll be fully of the mind that Marjamäki needs to go.
Capisci?
Anf if Finland should reach the quarterfinal by luckily circumstances but gets crashed by the opponent with 10-1 or something similar, do you think Marjamäki should still coach the team also at the Olympic Games next year?
He should go even if they reach the QF. I see that only getting to the best four should really save him. And even then I would be probably pissed, because I honestly don't want Finland to play this crap anti-hockey that he seems to believe so strongly in. These kinds of coaches in general are the cancer of hockey unfortunately.
What on earth? The most consistent game? Yeah, maybe the most consistently bad game. Upward trend? So an overtime win vs Norway after 5 games played is an UPWARD TREND?
Making QFs shouldn't be the "result we should be happy with". Finland has NEVER missed QFs. That doesn't mean that every single tournament has been good by Finland. Finland could probably make QFs even if the coach was playing golf the entire tournament. That's really not the kind of thinking I can get behind at all.
If Finland gets a medal he can try one more year in my opinion. Otherwise probably not. Regardless of medal or not it would be really tempting to get Jukka Jalonen or someone like that for next season.
There is only 3things you have to care in these tournaments. Get to top 8 and win last 3games. Who the **** cares how it is happening. Most of those small countries and even bigger are really tired after first week... lets just see what happenens. I still think that something like 99% Finnish people does not understand a **** about tournament hockey or pro coaching.
In case you missed it, we were pretty much in control the entire game - something this team hasn't done in this tournament this far. 5-on-5 everything else worked save for scoring. It was a full, complete 60-minute-performance. So if that happens - after not happening before - what else it is except a move in the right direction?
That's not to say one should be happy with how the things are, given how crucial part of the game of hockey scoring is. Ultimately, I've a feeling that while the direction is right, the road will run out before things are fully satisfactory.
And I have a hard time reading the majority of the Finnish commenters' posts without picturing them wearing a Peltonen #16 jersey and a Karjala cap.
And you two don't seem to understand when a team plays bad. I understand that winning is the most important thing in competive hockey. But I have to say that if we will be in the future aiming for medals with this slow, passive and overly calculated crap that is absolute anti-hockey, then I will at least vote with not even watching national team hockey.
The hockey scene has to get rid of these anti-hockey coaches like Marjamäki, or the whole game will be completely ruined.
This is so embarassing, trying to lose every game in last minutes... I wish we dont reach QF. Next two games are losses, wondering how much goals we give vs. Canada.
Oh, that team doesn't play good. But I think most of you are just being a little ridiculous if you pour the entire pail on the coach. Because the players we have aren't exactly top shelf either.
The way I recall it, the slow starts were universally panned earlier, and pointed as a prime example for Marjamäki's game plan being sucky. Did you miss it perchance, that for today's game they had almost completely done away with them? For the entire game, Finland was trying to turn the movement upwards as soon as they got the puck.
And, like I said, it - in part - instantly gave us a performance that at least looked constant for whole 60 minutes. However, they still had struggles scoring. So perhaps the logical conclusion should be you can fault some of the struggles - but not all of them - on the coach.
Heia Norge
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Norwegian PP has Div.1 esque written all over it, absolutely horrible to watch. We where lucky to get one point today. 
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It was sarcasm, when Lions did well in the first period of Czech game. It was my way to admit that I was wrong that time. I have feeling that all problems aren't on marjamäki, but I also have feeling coach isn't something we need to protect. We need to refresh things and it means firing the coach after the tournament.
We have been playing bad most of time since World Cup. Having this kind of problems with Belarus, France and Norway - while good for them, is unacceptable. We are not supposed to find positives with microscope from these things, I think any reasonable fan just wants to put stop to it.
I get, that in football, changing coach might not help anything at all. They're using mostly the best available men or close and just can't get it done even against non top countries. But if we play like this in hockey, we definitely can put the responsibility on head coach. Material, even in this tournament, is enough for some sort of decency of effort.
Korpisalo dont save Pucks in the right situations
DEF dont help the Keeper
Off dont score at right Time
Qf is the max this year
DEF dont help the Keeper
Off dont score at right Time
Qf is the max this year
Well, I don't know, it wasn't too bad, an important win and there are no points for artistry. I don't think Switzerland is that impressive and and in quarterfinals Finland tends to be a very tough opponent. Of course, it's not a very skilled team but it's definitely getting better on ice, even if slowly...
