93gilmour93
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Same could easily be said for Penguins and Capitals in 16,17,18 if we are playing hypotheticals. Pens have 3 cups in 3 years as many viewed the “real Stanley cup” that series.
Sure but they were the presidents trophy winners in 2016 and 2017 with 120 and 121 points. Pens and caps were the two best teams in the league during that period. Pens had to beat a juggernaut both years during their back to back cup wins.
Why do people keep saying hawks won 3 cups and mentioning the 2010 team even though the poll specifically says "13-15"?
Because this poll seems worded specifically to keep the Hawks from being the obvious choice. 2010, 13, and 15 were all the same core and coach, so they're the strongest team since no other core has a 3rd ring to cause debate.
Why do people keep saying hawks won 3 cups and mentioning the 2010 team even though the poll specifically says "13-15"?
The poll seems pretty straightforward, op listed years to compare teams. If we include 2010 then why not pens 09? Same core of Crosby/Malkin/Letang/Fleury with 3 rings. Also another SCF in 08, which the hawks core can't match.
I still think about that 2014 game 7 OT loss... what could have been..LA and Chicago had to play each other in the Conference finals in 2013 and 2014 though, with each one winning once. They both might have won 3 straight if they didn't have to face another team at this level. Tampa hasn't had the face that and it's arguable whether the Caps were that for the Pens.
you guys would have smoked the Rangers in about the same number of games. Whoever won that game 7 was winning the cupI still think about that 2014 game 7 OT loss... what could have been..
they are badly, but the Hawks won that extra cup that we didn't.I feel like the Kings are getting underrated in this thread.
Between the Bolts and Hawks. Pens didn't have the D/goaltending combo the others had, while the Kings didn't have the gamebreaking offensive talent of the others. Can't go wrong with either the Bolts and Hawks. The Pens and Kings are certainly capable of beating them (as the Kings did to the Hawks in 2014), but they would each be the underdog against either team.
Pens have the 2 best players, but their d corps weren't as deep as the other 3. And for as good as Letang was in 2016, he's still no Keith, Doughty or Hedman.The 2016 Pens have a strong case for #2 best Cup winner since 2005 (2008 Wings #1). They would be pretty evenly matched against any other Cup winner.
Pens have the 2 best players, but their d corps weren't as deep as the other 3. And for as good as Letang was in 2016, he's still no Keith, Doughty or Hedman.
LA and Chicago had to play each other in the Conference finals in 2013 and 2014 though, with each one winning once. They both might have won 3 straight if they didn't have to face another team at this level. Tampa hasn't had the face that and it's arguable whether the Caps were that for the Pens.
I have not read the entire thread so someone might already have responded to that:
It is not a good argument. The Pens and the Caps faced each other 3 years in a row from 2016 to 2018 and the winner won the Cup each time. They were the two best teams those years, just like the Hawks and Kings before. You could easily argue that the Pens AND Caps could have won 3 in a row. Heck, I'd say that the Caps won with the weakest team during that run (and the Pens too in 2017).
Sure it is. You're missing the point of that exchange. I was responding to EasyforKuzy suggesting that Tampa and Pittsburgh deserve more credit for going back to back. My point wasn't that LA and Chicago necessarily deserve more credit for the potential to have 3 in a row, but that they shouldn't be punished for having to play one another. If a couple bounces the other way meant they both went back to back instead of alternating, I don't believe it would suddenly change how good the teams are.
I did mention the Caps for Pittsburgh, and it's a similar situation, where I don't think the Caps and Pens swap winning in '17 and '18 would diminish the Pens team. That said, I don't believe the Caps are quite the same situation, because unlike Chicago and LA they didn't show that they can regularly win in the playoffs, so the idea that they were the two best teams doesn't hold quite as much weight, and they also played in the second round, instead of the third, which means an extra round for something to go wrong.
The disrespect to Montreal lol
Dude I get you totally underestimated them last year and acted like a fool but there's no need to make up BS just because your still hurt.
What are you even talking about ? lol. The OP made this thread before the finals was done and stated the Lightning had won 2 cups in a row, to which I replied "The disrespect to Montreal" as the series was still alive. What did I make up ? lol are you ok man ?