Prospect Info: Grand Rapids Griffins, 2024 - 2025 Season

[HoweFan]

Maybe he's going to Buffalo?

Oh Gawd. I’m sorry I asked lol

 

[schuelma24]

Husso getting bombed. 6-0 in the 3rd.

 

[Our Lady Peace]

Griffs have been quite out of sync for the past while, particularly with Lombardi gone. Him and Danielson 1/2Cs is a boon for them

Tonight they've been undisciplined and paying the price for it

Snively breaks the shutout though lol

 

[ShanahanMan]

Bruh what is happening over there.

 

[Frk It]

It's like anything else in life.... does a straight A student need much tutoring? I didn't. I received none.

I've taught ski lessons for years, some people can learn just by watching, others need in depth explanation. (A lot of instructors hate teaching adults for that very reason.) It's the ability to teach the lower end students that's a challenge. The Wings fail in that regards. I mean Raz still has skating issues, and Joey still doesn't grasp the game. Kasper is struggling offensively. It's much easier to coach naturally gifted athletes like Ray, Mo, and Ed. On top of that, a lot of their development was in the SHL outside of the organization.

I just think at the end of the day you are making gambles and you have to live with that.

Some kids will be able to add 25 lbs of muscle to their frame or add 25% to their skating and some won’t. What org they develop in wouldn’t change that. And you don’t know who can do what over the next 2-3 years when you are drafting 17 years old.

 

[Gniwder]

I just think at the end of the day you are making gambles and you have to live with that.

Some kids will be able to add 25 lbs of muscle to their frame or add 25% to their skating and some won’t. What org they develop in wouldn’t change that. And you don’t know who can do what over the next 2-3 years when you are drafting 17 years old.

I was thinking more along the way of skill development and not so much physical development. I think the Wings organization is on par with the rest of the league as far as being able to bulk up prospects. Ray, Joey, Burger, and even Mazur (this one surprised me) put on some weight.

In terms of skill, I'm talking about even simple stuff like stick handling, defending the puck, shooting, reading defensive coverage and finding soft spots, etc. The team couldn't fix Zadina's timing issue on his one timer, Raz' skating still isn't fixed, Kasper's shooting leaves a lot to be desired, and Joey hasn't learned a damn thing in the past 2 seasons. Zadina looks better in Switzerland because he's using the whole ice and not doing that one move where he tries to split the defender in the middle. So there's an issue with teaching hockey IQ as well.

Blash and Fester were both collegiate goalies, Watson was an ECHL defenseman. Not really the kind of guys you would want teaching offensive skills. Lashoff is Watson assistant along with a former DEL player. If the coaches can't get it done then Dan Cleary and Dwayne Blais
need to do more than what they're doing.

Anyways, I'm surprised at how much better Brandt Clarke's skating looks now, and I'm pretty sure that wouldn't have happened with the Wings.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

I was thinking more along the way of skill development and not so much physical development. I think the Wings organization is on par with the rest of the league as far as being able to bulk up prospects. Ray, Joey, Burger, and even Mazur (this one surprised me) put on some weight.

In terms of skill, I'm talking about even simple stuff like stick handling, defending the puck, shooting, reading defensive coverage and finding soft spots, etc. The team couldn't fix Zadina's timing issue on his one timer, Raz' skating still isn't fixed, Kasper's shooting leaves a lot to be desired, and Joey hasn't learned a damn thing in the past 2 seasons. Zadina looks better in Switzerland because he's using the whole ice and not doing that one move where he tries to split the defender in the middle. So there's an issue with teaching hockey IQ as well.

Blash and Fester were both collegiate goalies, Watson was an ECHL defenseman. Not really the kind of guys you would want teaching offensive skills. Lashoff is Watson assistant along with a former DEL player. If the coaches can't get it done then Dan Cleary and Dwayne Blais
need to do more than what they're doing.

Anyways, I'm surprised at how much better Brandt Clarke's skating looks now, and I'm pretty sure that wouldn't have happened with the Wings.

Ras’ skating has come along substantially. The last two years he can actually play as an F1 a lot. My problem with Ras is they didn’t bulk him up enough. Maybe that is because of the trade off in skating, I do wish he played at closer to 240 and was a bully around the net.

Zadina looks better in Europe because there is more time and space. I think trying to teach that is incredibly challenging. NHL defenders are also substantially better at disrupting with their sticks in my opinion. With the skating and hockey IQ they take away a lot of time and space. They can show it in video but ultimately it is on the player. Zadina would recover himself in the zone a lot, I doubt it was because they weren’t showing him video on him doing it and trying to coach him out of it. Zadina is also a mediocre athlete in terms of explosion, a few of us actually said this in the euphoria of his draft night.