Goal scorers

[Overrated]

One name is missing that should definitely be there which is Boris Mikhailov.

 

[carjackmalone]

Why is Kurri overlooked

 

[The Panther]

It's very hard to isolate a particular skill and rank it -- and of course there's a lot more that goes into volume of goals scored than just the player's ability -- but anyway, I'll try (this is just NHL based, btw, if that wasn't obvious):

1. Mario Lemieux
2. Alex Ovechkin
3. Bobby Hull
4. Maurice Richard
5. Wayne Gretzky
6. Gordie Howe
7. Brett Hull
8. Mike Bossy
9. Phil Esposito
10. Jaromir Jagr / Pavel Bure / Auston Matthews

I feel like Charlie Conacher's and Jari Kurri's periods as elite goal scorers were just a tad too short to make the top 10.

It's still early days on Matthews, but if he can get another 60-ish goal season this year, maybe he kicks aside Jagr and Bure and starts to climb up the list further...

 

[rmartin65]

It's very hard to isolate a particular skill and rank it -- and of course there's a lot more that goes into volume of goals scored than just the player's ability -- but anyway, I'll try (this is just NHL based, btw, if that wasn't obvious):

1. Mario Lemieux
2. Alex Ovechkin
3. Bobby Hull
4. Maurice Richard
5. Wayne Gretzky
6. Gordie Howe
7. Brett Hull
8. Mike Bossy
9. Phil Esposito
10. Jaromir Jagr / Pavel Bure / Auston Matthews

I feel like Charlie Conacher's and Jari Kurri's periods as elite goal scorers were just a tad too short to make the top 10.

A six year span as the top goal scorer in the league is a tad too short? I can't get behind that.

 

[The Panther]

A six year span as the top goal scorer in the league is a tad too short? I can't get behind that.

Talking about Conacher? You may be right, and I'm certainly more prime than I am longevity (more than most on here, in my experience).

But... with Conacher, yes, he's got 5 out of 6 years as the #1 goal scorer. But he falls off the cliff at age 26, which is rather young. For the next five years (mostly in his late-20s), he was 45th in goals scored, and was at 0.20 goals per game.

It's not a stick to beat him with because his 1931 to 1936 seasons are amazing and speak for themselves. I would be interested in the thoughts of others who know more about Conacher / this era than I do...

 

[rmartin65]

Talking about Conacher? You may be right, and I'm certainly more prime than I am longevity (more than most on here, in my experience).

But... with Conacher, yes, he's got 5 out of 6 years as the #1 goal scorer. But he falls off the cliff at age 26, which is rather young. For the next five years (mostly in his late-20s), he was 45th in goals scored, and was at 0.20 goals per game.

It's not a stick to beat him with because his 1931 to 1936 seasons are amazing and speak for themselves. I would be interested in the thoughts of others who know more about Conacher / this era than I do...

Conacher, like Bure, dealt with a lot of injuries. Conacher fell off a cliff due to a broken wrist in 1937 and a dislocated shoulder in 1938, which limited him to just 34 games over the two seasons. Modern medicine likely would have seen him return to his high-scoring days.

In any case, here is how Conacher stacks up with several other bubble players mentioned in this thread. I'm only looking at top 5 finishes, since we are looking at the cream of the crop here.

	Conacher	Bure	Jagr	Stamkos	Bossy	Selanne	Matthews
Raw Goals, Leader	5	3	0	2	2	3	3
Raw Goals, Top 5	5	5	6	6	8	5	5
Goals/Game, Leader	5	1	1	2	1	2	3
Goals/Game, Top 5	5	4	7	6	9	5	6

Conacher doesn't seem out of place in terms of number of seasons a top-tier scorer, and he clearly peaked higher (as of now; Matthews could change that moving forward).