Value of: Georgiev
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Rangers won't move him unless it upgrades the Rangers. While Igor was out with covid, Georgiev kept the Rangers in games. Unless the Rangers acquired more goalie depth they can't move Georgiev. Rangers aren't going into the playoffs with Keith Kinkaid as the backup.
stop w/the /thread
there is a recent thread Geo to EDM
most, incl multiple Oil fans, agreed to a recent 2nd prospect + downgrade of 4th now for a 3rd next yr to take Kosk
Hajek also included
would love to upgrade from Lavoie to a better prospect, but can agree on him
prob w/this is that we have established there are 2 Geos.
the underperformer does not get starter's minutes and is a backup
the solid performer gets regular work as a starter
What advocates of your position need to recognize is there are only one set of starter's minutes, period, regardless of who the goalie is.
So either be stupid by not playing Shesty starter mins to keep Geo sharp
or
also be stupid by giving Shesty the mins and then deal with an inferior version of Geo
or be smart, listen to bernmeister, and deal Geo
play Shesty as starter vs top competition, let Kinkaid/Huska play backup vs 2nd tier clubs
then use swag obtained for Geo to upgrade, upgrade, upgrade///
Shest is injury prone, so might hold on to him until a new goalie emerges and pushes his way from the minors.
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No team is going to give up the value Rangers want for him. He will be dealt at the draft.
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Georgiev wouldn't make a lick of difference. He's just another sub-standard goaltender. Oilers would be exchanging crap for crap...
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Avs don't need a goalie and the Oilers aren't buyers. They ain't going to the playoffs.
not paying attention to actual facts
his production is dif as a starter than as a backup
needs the regular work to be sharp and he is not getting it behind Shesty
If he provided consistent starter-level goaltending, he would be a starter. He's not. He's a total questionmark. Oilers need a sure thing.
ManofSteel55
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He's been better of recent than Koskinen has been in 3 years. He isn't a superstar, that's for sure, but Koskinen is done. You can see it in his game, he's finished as an Oiler and an NHL goalie. Gives up after he lets in a shaky goal, and he lets in a shaky goal every game. It sucks, he starts off pretty good every year, but 30 games in, stick a fork in him.
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Ideally we trade for someone now, even if he isnt a sure thing (and really, there arent many/any sure things available at this stage) give the guy the reins, and we could still trade for someone else at the deadline if we need to.
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Ullmark for long term if he’s available
Fleury for short term if he’s available
Huge problems in Edmonton
Fleury for short term if he’s available
Huge problems in Edmonton
no, there is no shame in him not winning starting job vs vezina quality Shesty
that's like sayin Mantle was not good enuf to bat cleanup for the Yankees, and ignoring the #4 hitter was Gehrig.
nothing is certain and only God is absolute.
But if we play percentages, barring injury, Geo, who will also have an odd off game here and there, is gonna shine most of the time w/regular work as a starter.
there is also a likely consequence to staying on the path of the status quo
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to reference a popular quote:
to those who believe, no explanation is necessary
to those who do not, no explanation is possible.
And yes, of course science exists.
To quote the late great Billy Preston....
That's the way God planned it
That's the way God wants it to be
Agree... /thread
So, are we all saying that in the totality of factors: who's available, cost, etc etc that Geo is prob the only option worth considering?
After we answer that then sure, /thread
I believe the quote you meant was "What if God was one of us?"
Explaining predestination vs free will, that is relatively easy.
But since many set a standard of requiring empirical evidence, nothing less, it is difficult to prove the existence of God, as God, being absolute, is not compelled to submit to such a standard.
So it becomes a matter of faith. I hope all who seek it find it.
I won't say more than that here b'c that would cross the line from courtesy response to going off tangent. I am very busy but you may convo me for a bit further discussion if you wish.
You amaze me! Such well though-out wisdom yet your trade offers are outlandish. You are an enigma!
