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First half was pretty good. The rest and ultimately the entire last season mostly sucked, for a lot of reasons. It’ll only get worse with time
I think it is going to have a Star Wars like following eventually honestly. In 20 years Kit Harrington and Emilia Clarke will be signing autographs at nerd conventions.
eel-lee-phontI'm still salty that there were no elephants
People will eventually come to see that bad writing and horrible character development has plagued the show since season 5.
People will eventually come to see that bad writing and horrible character development has plagued the show since season 5.
Speaking of season 5(and 7/8)
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Season 6 was no more carried by "GRRM plot points" than 5, 7, and 8 were. Do you think GRRM only provided plot points for season 6 or something?Season 6 actually wasn’t bad, as it was mostly carried by GRRM plot points (Hold the Door, R+L=J, etc.).
But yeah, seasons 5, 7, and 8 were just dreadful.
Season 6 was no more carried by "GRRM plot points" than 5, 7, and 8 were. Do you think GRRM only provided plot points for season 6 or something?
In about three months the meme will change as all the video essays of “being too hard on season 8” hit the web as the shock wears off.
Yeah, just like all the criticism of The Last Jedi went away, right?
People don’t like the final season because the final season was awful. Period.
No? Use your brain:
5 deviated significantly from the source material (Jaime and Bronn in Dorne), and 7 and 8 were comprised almost entirely of D&D fan fiction. Martin provided the following plot points for the final season:
- Jon’s true parentage
- Hold the Door
- Dany going “Mad Queen”
- King Bran
That’s it.
Arya killing the Night King is pure show schlock considering the Night King isn’t even a character in the books, and D&D admitted they made up that entire plot point. Kidnap a Zombie was convoluted fan service nonsense invented entirely by the show. Etc etc. Most of the seasons 5-8 were fan fiction. But Hold the Door and Jon’s parentage were particularly strong twists rooted in book material and revealed in season 6.
I don’t understand what you’re objecting to here. Martin distanced himself from the show quite a bit in the final seasons, and was tweeting out recommendations to watch The Last Kingdom ffs.
The Last Kingdom is an excellent show. I would easily take it over post season 4 GOT.
Yeah, just like all the criticism of The Last Jedi went away, right?
People don’t like the final season because the final season was awful. Period.
During a recent appearance on Leonard Maltin’s movie podcast, recorded weeks after “Thrones” wrapped its run, Martin said he’s never seen anything like the “madness” that runs across the internet.
“The Internet is toxic in a way that old fanzine culture and fandoms — comics fans, science fiction fans — in those days, was not,” Martin said. “There were disagreements. There were feuds, but nothing like the madness that you see on the internet.”
“How will it all end? I hear people asking,” Martin wrote. “The same ending as the show? Different? Well… yes. And no. And yes. And no. And yes. And no. And yes. I am working in a very different medium than David and Dan [the TV show creators Benioff and Weiss], never forget. They had six hours for this final season. I expect these last two books of mine will fill 3000 manuscript pages between them before I’m done… and if more pages and chapters and scenes are needed, I’ll add them.”