GDT: Game 32. Meet me in St Louis 5pm

hohosaregood

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Eklund probably gonna be back up with the Lunds by the 2nd period so not really a big deal but you guys do bring up good points about where Eklund's game is at right now. He can play like an excellent 1st line winger when he's going at 100% and he's getting into the board battles and winning pucks but when he's not, he's not nearly as effective.

His playmaking is good, his shooting is solid, his pace is fine but he's not very fast. It's kinda the whole A game vs B game thing again. His physical attributes and his skill aren't exactly there yet where he can just hang and make a plus level contribution when he's not maxing out, especially with where the team is at. If we had some better top 9 puck retrieval and point men, he probably wouldn't need to go as hard to be effective.

Should he be the one getting demoted? Eh I'd probably drop someone else but I think Eklund can do enough stuff with those linemates regardless.
 

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In the day and age of the 3 inning start and 14 pitchers on a squad

Hate to say it and it wont happen, but, get rid of the DH, then the double switch comes back into play and starters may go at least 5 or 6. Kinda like, well, the way it used to be
Innings to starting pitchers in the NL had been going down at almost exactly the same rate, and to essentially the same absolute figure, as in the AL pre-universal DH. Pitchers batting will do nothing, because teams know that they'd be giving up probably two plate appearances to a pitcher at the cost of reduced effectiveness against 18 batters.

The only way to force starters to stay in the game longer is to mandate it by rule. Pitchers will continue to go at 200% and blow their arms out early because they know that if they don't, someone else will take their job (and they're probably still blow their arms out early at 100% or even 80%, because pitching is an inherently destructive act and only a few lucky people are able to avoid breaking themselves before becoming ineffective, with little or no way to predict whether they'll be lucky or not). Every pitcher's goal is just to be lucky enough to be effective long enough to get that big contract.
 
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Let's SNOG this f***er:

Blues 5 (Buchnevich, Thomas, Parayko, Toropchenko, Neighbours)
Sharks 2 (Wennberg, Celebrini)

Wearing my new Celebrini shirt (some call these shirseys, but I will not) for the first time tonight. Kind of crap compared to the old ones I've had (thinner fabric, worse fit) but what are you going to do when Fanatics has their deathgrip on things now?
 
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Innings to starting pitchers in the NL had been going down at almost exactly the same rate, and to essentially the same absolute figure, as in the AL pre-universal DH. Pitchers batting will do nothing, because teams know that they'd be giving up probably two plate appearances to a pitcher at the cost of reduced effectiveness against 18 batters.

The only way to force starters to stay in the game longer is to mandate it by rule. Pitchers will continue to go at 200% and blow their arms out early because they know that if they don't, someone else will take their job (and they're probably still blow their arms out early at 100% or even 80%, because pitching is an inherently destructive act and only a few lucky people able to avoid breaking themselves before becoming ineffective, with little or no way to predict whether they'll be lucky or not). Every pitcher's goal is just to be lucky enough to be effective long enough to get that big contract.
Or just limit the amount of pitchers a team can carry on a roster and change the rules regarding minor league options and callups---or a least have a certain number of non injury callups per month or season maximized

You make some fair points but a manager may well let a good starter hit in the 4th or 5th inning to keep him in the game without a DH because the starter might be better than the "situational " releiver and pitching might be more optimized

I see it the other way too. Interesting to ponder!
 
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