GDT: Game 29: Red Wings at flyers 7:00 pm et 12/12/24

wingsfannn919191

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These ppl make me laugh. Besides larkin Ken Holland left us absolutely nothing when he left

Redwings are still waiting on a long list of guys coming. When they start busting that's when fans can panic cause itll be another 10 yrs of pain.

Also if anyone's mad at what's going on blame chris ilitch. Yzerman said the rebuild would be slow then all of a sudden gives longterm deals to garbage bottom 6 guys ? I'd bet money ilitch told yzerman we needed to be competitive quicker to get seats at the arena

That helped slow down the rebuild. I like kasper but we should have been lower if not these moves the last few drafts

Kasper could have been michkov/leonard
Danielson could have been a gauthier
Nygard could have been silayev/dickinson

Michkov/leonard
Gauthier
Silayev/dickinson

+ seider raymond pellikka cossa Augustine buchnikoov finnie lombardi wallinder etc...

I'd say it's a big difference

I dont want us to lose next 50 games but we need to start dropping some slots. Huge stars arent signing here at the moment. Only has beens
 

WF19

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Starting to get a bit worried about Kasper's production, I know he's young but there aren't many players who had his kind of stats when they were 20 and then became very good point producers. At least I can't think of many.
The whole team is hot garbage right now, he'll be fine when we have a competent coach that can put proper lines together. Coincidentally, Larkin, Raymond, Debrincat, Seider and Ed are our top point producers. No one outside of the top lines are doing anything. Can't even complain about the goaltending this year it should be good enough yet we get outshot by large margins frequently and are one line deep.

I've been a die hard fan my entire life, this is the first year I can remember that I'm not worried to miss the game. I'm confident in Yzerman and I can kind of understand his plan but Lalonde runs the worst system I've seen, so not entertaining.
 

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These ppl make me laugh. Besides larkin Ken Holland left us absolutely nothing when he left

Redwings are still waiting on a long list of guys coming. When they start busting that's when fans can panic cause itll be another 10 yrs of pain.

Also if anyone's mad at what's going on blame chris ilitch. Yzerman said the rebuild would be slow then all of a sudden gives longterm deals to garbage bottom 6 guys ? I'd bet money ilitch told yzerman we needed to be competitive quicker to get seats at the arena

That helped slow down the rebuild. I like kasper but we should have been lower if not these moves the last few drafts

Kasper could have been michkov/leonard
Danielson could have been a gauthier
Nygard could have been silayev/dickinson

Michkov/leonard
Gauthier
Silayev/dickinson

+ seider raymond pellikka cossa Augustine buchnikoov finnie lombardi wallinder etc...

I'd say it's a big difference

I dont want us to lose next 50 games but we need to start dropping some slots. Huge stars arent signing here at the moment. Only has beens

I don't think Yzerman is the type of guy that would take those kind of orders, and his stature is such that I don't think the owner would dictate to him how to run the team.
 
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wingsfannn919191

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Starting to get a bit worried about Kasper's production, I know he's young but there aren't many players who had his kind of stats when they were 20 and then became very good point producers. At least I can't think of many.
Not worried yet . Teams playing like trash, his linemates keep changing and are unproductive as well

If we put a kasper larkin raymond top line his stats would start going up while debrincat would get more 0's. We basically have one line that's producing and our 2 youngest defensemen
 
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wingsfannn919191

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I don't think Yzerman is the type of guy that would take those kind of or orders, and his stature is such that I don't think the owner would dictate to him how to run the team.
Not the kind of guy who would take those orders ???? From his boss??? The same guy who he had to ask permission to sign Stamkos and never heard back from???

Let's be real if his owner tells him to do something he cant say f*** off I'm steve yzerman lmao

I could 100% see chris ilitch telling him the arena needed to start being packed up again
 

rangersblues

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Time to start the sell. I'd rather watch scrubs and kids at this point. At least they'd try. Anyone not named Larkin, Seider, Ed, Ray and Kasper should be available. Maybe keep Talbot so we have a legit vet to platoon with Cossa next year.

Maybe we can pull a Tigers if we deal some or all of a vets and get a competent coach or tank and get a legit top 3.

This is utter trash to watch. You can't sell this as innsulating young guys or preventing a losing culture. If this isn't a losing culture I don't know what is...
Selling is a great idea. But to sell anything you need a buyer and you couldn't give most of our guys away for free.
 

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Not the kind of guy who would take those orders ???? From his boss??? The same guy who he had to ask permission to sign Stamkos and never heard back from???

Let's be real if his owner tells him to do something he cant say f*** off I'm steve yzerman lmao

I could 100% see chris ilitch telling him the arena needed to start being packed up again

Can we stop using Terry Foster as a source lol

It’s silly
 

JoesuffP

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We’re too slow down the middle. We can’t be the slower of the teams every night.

Need to be a good forechecking team
 

FMichael

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To be fair mostly everyone is a wings killer at this point
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Gniwder

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These ppl make me laugh. Besides larkin Ken Holland left us absolutely nothing when he left

Redwings are still waiting on a long list of guys coming. When they start busting that's when fans can panic cause itll be another 10 yrs of pain.

Also if anyone's mad at what's going on blame chris ilitch. Yzerman said the rebuild would be slow then all of a sudden gives longterm deals to garbage bottom 6 guys ? I'd bet money ilitch told yzerman we needed to be competitive quicker to get seats at the arena

That helped slow down the rebuild. I like kasper but we should have been lower if not these moves the last few drafts

Kasper could have been michkov/leonard
Danielson could have been a gauthier
Nygard could have been silayev/dickinson

Michkov/leonard
Gauthier
Silayev/dickinson

+ seider raymond pellikka cossa Augustine buchnikoov finnie lombardi wallinder etc...

I'd say it's a big difference

I dont want us to lose next 50 games but we need to start dropping some slots. Huge stars arent signing here at the moment. Only has beens

Wait, I thought the narrative is that Chris is cheap. Now you're saying Chris forced Stevie to spend money?

The issue is that Stevie is signing a bunch of garbage players under $6M. Copp and Compher combined make more than $10M. For that price, I'd rather have one legit star player and a warm body than 2 mediocre players. Too bad Copp has 2 more seasons and Compher has 3. We have a lot more shitty hockey coming our way.
 

FMichael

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Wait, I thought the narrative is that Chris is cheap. Now you're saying Chris forced Stevie to spend money?

The issue is that Stevie is signing a bunch of garbage players under $6M. Copp and Compher combined make more than $10M. For that price, I'd rather have one legit star player and a warm body than 2 mediocre players. Too bad Copp has 2 more seasons and Compher has 3. We have a lot more shitty hockey coming our way.
But who's that 'star' player available?

Unfortunate reality is slim pickings :(

Vegas/Winnipeg in OT...Very entertaining!
 

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