GDT: Game 29 | Caps @ Jackets | 7 PM EST

[S1N4TR4]

I mean he had a couple of stinkers last season too.

I get the excitement but let's slow the roll a bit and make sure he can sustain at the NHL level once the NHL gets a scouting report on him. Let's let him earn it before crowning him king.

after seeing such putrid goaltending all season, it’s refreshing to see someone so composed in net like jet. that’s all.

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

I think Tarasov is done

Don't make the decision on one game but we'll see how the weekend goes and make the call from there to make sure Jet is ready for regular NHL time.

We've seen enough from Tarasov but I would like to see more from Jet considering our organizational goaltending depth behind him is not existent.

after seeing such putrid goaltending all season, it’s refreshing to see someone so composed in net like jet. that’s all.

*might* is the key. It's too early.

 

[VT]

Don't make the decision on one game but we'll see how the weekend goes and make the call from there to make sure Jet is ready for regular NHL time.

We've seen enough from Tarasov but I would like to see more from Jet considering our organizational goaltending depth behind him is not existent.


*might* is the key. It's too early.

If Evason decides to play with Merzlikins for the rest of the season, Jet will end up like Tarasov. He'll be rusty while not being able to make a single mistake.

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

If Evason decides to play with Merzlikins for the rest of the season, Jet will end up like Tarasov. He'll be rusty while not being able to make a single mistake.

Not specifically sure what that means. I think Elvis was playing so much because they had no trust in Tarasov. I think playing time would be more split for the rest of the season if they move on.

They do owe a decent goaltender to Cleveland. I don't know if that can be Tarasov to figure himself out or if they need to acquire one but Cleveland can't go the rest of the season with Sawchenko and Cajan as the goalie tandem if Jet stays here.

 

[NotWendell]

Does Tarry have to pass through waivers to get sent to Cleveland?

 

[CBJ goalie]

What?

Nobody is going to blame Jet for giving up a goal on a shot from that far out?

I came back here expecting people to even try to find a way to blame Elvis for this goal.

You.....I like you.

So very true, if that was Elvis giving up that OT goal he'd be vilified.

I like Jet, he's a calming presence - but yeah, people need to resist crowning him just yet.

 

[NotWendell]

Fantilli just can’t buy a goal

Btw, 43 posts total? that must be the quietest GDT of the season

It sort of matches the enthusiasm of the crowd at Nationwide

You.....I like you.

So very true, if that was Elvis giving up that OT goal he'd be vilified.

I can think of five million reasons why.

 

[Nanabijou]

Does Tarry have to pass through waivers to get sent to Cleveland?

Yes.

 

[NotWendell]

I thought we were outmanned the first 10 minutes. Competent goaltending kept us from going down 2 or 3 goals. Things looked even from there. With four straight FO wins to keep possession, we had a good chance to win it in OT.

 

[Monstershockey]

Good for Jet. Nice to see him finding early success in the NHL. Still has a ways to go, but it is a nice start. Looking at his game logs, he faces a lot of shots per game. He has faced less than 34 shots in a game as much as he has faced 40 or more. He has had a few below .900 games, but followed them up with solid efforts.

The comments on Elvis being villified if he gave up that losing goal is kind of funny. I remember a few short years ago when another guy was getting the crap Elvis is now and we didn't hear how bad the guys were in front of him on a consistant basis.

Don't know if Jet will be able to continue to play solid, but hope to see it. He has put in his time in Cleveland and is a much better goalie now than he was when he arrived here.
He has earned it much like Kivlenieks had before his tragedy.

 

[lakai17]

Nice game by Greaves. It's hard to be consistent for any goalie in the NHL so hopefully he can continue to add stability.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

While I do think people may be jumping the shark on anointing Greaves as the #1 goalie, I have no issue anointing Greaves as the backup with potential to be more.

The only thing that sucks is what it does to Cleveland. Them having success matters to me. Hopefully if Tarasov is waived he can go down there and help. And if he doesn’t make it through, hopefully there’s something we can do to help Cleveland.

 

[Monstershockey]

While I do think people may be jumping the shark on anointing Greaves as the #1 goalie, I have no issue anointing Greaves as the backup with potential to be more.

The only thing that sucks is what it does to Cleveland. Them having success matters to me. Hopefully if Tarasov is waived he can go down there and help. And if he doesn’t make it through, hopefully there’s something we can do to help Cleveland.

It would suck losing Greaves, but its all part of the process. If they decide to go with him as a backup, that's good because he worked hard for it and earned it.

I feel OK with Sawchenko. He may benefit from more consistant playing time, and Cajan has also played better over his time here. If either of those two goes down, who knows what they get.

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

I can think of five million reasons why.

I might be different but I think the only people who should care how much money a guy makes is the guy paying the bills, the accountants, and the guy making the cash.

I am none of those in this scenario.

 

[Napoli]

I might be different but I think the only people who should care how much money a guy makes is the guy paying the bills, the accountants, and the guy making the cash.

I am none of those in this scenario.

Don't think it's about the money itself but how it impacts the team to move on from Elvis. We're essentially stuck with him even if we'd like to move on.

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

Don't think it's about the money itself but how it impacts the team to move on from Elvis. We're essentially stuck with him even if we'd like to move on.

But those are business decisions. You could also have players you could want to keep but don't have the cap space for.

I understand both from a business perspective but it doesn't change how I think about their actual on ice performance. I feel like some people here hold extra anger against a person because of his pay check and I just simply ask "How does what someone else makes impact your day to day life?"

 

[Cyclones Rock]

It would suck losing Greaves, but its all part of the process. If they decide to go with him as a backup, that's good because he worked hard for it and earned it.

I feel OK with Sawchenko. He may benefit from more consistant playing time, and Cajan has also played better over his time here. If either of those two goes down, who knows what they get.

I've had the opportunity to watch Cajan play a lot this season. He's really good now. He's on an absolutely horrible team which can't score goals (a tad less than 2 per game) and gives up 4 goals per game. A team which is dead last in the ECHL and is tracking for 36 points (72 game season).

He's performing exceptionally well for a remarkably awful team

Here's a look at Cajan versus the other two goalies on the Cyclones roster:

30	Pavel Cajan	7	395	15	2.28	2	4	1	0	0	160	0.914
50	Vyacheslav Peksa	8	445	25	3.38	1	5	1	2	1	160	0.865
31	Jon Gillies	4	240	19	4.76	0	3	1	1	0	107	0.849

Gillies has some NHL time on his resume to put things into perspective. Cajan looks every bit the goalie that UPL (the Buffalo Sabres starter) was when he was in Cincinnati. I will note that I don't claim to be able to evaluate goaltending technique on any high level, but I think Cajan's numbers really are stand out given the dreadful circumstance he's in this year.

 

[Monstershockey]

I've had the opportunity to watch Cajan play a lot this season. He's really good now. He's on an absolutely horrible team which can't score goals (a tad less than 2 per game) and gives up 4 goals per game. A team which is dead last in the ECHL and is tracking for 36 points (72 game season).

He's performing exceptionally well for a remarkably awful team

Here's a look at Cajan versus the other two goalies on the Cyclones roster:

30	Pavel Cajan	7	395	15	2.28	2	4	1	0	0	160	0.914
50	Vyacheslav Peksa	8	445	25	3.38	1	5	1	2	1	160	0.865
31	Jon Gillies	4	240	19	4.76	0	3	1	1	0	107	0.849

Gillies has some NHL time on his resume to put things into perspective. Cajan looks every bit the goalie that UPL (the Buffalo Sabres starter) was when he was in Cincinnati. I will note that I don't claim to be able to evaluate goaltending technique on any high level, but I think Cajan's numbers really are stand out given the dreadful circumstance he's in this year.

I have been wanting to watch more of Cincinnati to see Cajan play. I caught part of a game a few weeks ago and he looked good in that one.

I have to say though, Cincinnati's stream of the game was nice. Great picture and announcers, although I can't remember if it was Cincy's guys or not, but it was a better production than the majority of AHL streams I watch, by a lot.

 

[Cyclones Rock]

I have been wanting to watch more of Cincinnati to see Cajan play. I caught part of a game a few weeks ago and he looked good in that one.

I have to say though, Cincinnati's stream of the game was nice. Great picture and announcers, although I can't remember if it was Cincy's guys or not, but it was a better production than the majority of AHL streams I watch, by a lot.

I haven't. You want some free tix??

I never watch their games unless I'm there-and even then there's a lot of phone time this season I've heard that the provider of the streams (Flo hockey, I think) does a good job in most arenas.

 

[VT]

I might be different but I think the only people who should care how much money a guy makes is the guy paying the bills, the accountants, and the guy making the cash.

I am none of those in this scenario.

But there is interest from a team that Elvis could be moved to, but won't be because of his contract.

 

[Doggy]

But there is interest from a team that Elvis could be moved to, but won't be because of his contract.

A team in the Swiss league? If they'd be willing to cover 40% of the contract I'd do that deal today (that's cheaper than buying him out) and would not have to give up any other assets to show him the door?

 

[VT]

A team in the Swiss league? If they'd be willing to cover 40% of the contract I'd do that deal today (that's cheaper than buying him out) and would not have to give up any other assets to show him the door?

Only if Elvis agrees, otherwise they can't move him to Switzerland. Which I doubt.

 

[Napoli]

But those are business decisions. You could also have players you could want to keep but don't have the cap space for.

I understand both from a business perspective but it doesn't change how I think about their actual on ice performance. I feel like some people here hold extra anger against a person because of his pay check and I just simply ask "How does what someone else makes impact your day to day life?"

Well people dislike Elvis for a couple reasons but most prominently is his inconsistentcy. That all reflects back to him not being worth his contract. Especially his first couple years where he was egregiously poor.

The contract is simply in the way, if he was playing well enough to earn it, specifically throughout the entirety of the contract, that's one thing, but he simply hasn't performed. There's no "extra angst" towards him, it's, "this guy is getting paid how much and this is how he plays?"

 

[Doggy]

Well people dislike Elvis for a couple reasons but most prominently is his inconsistentcy. That all reflects back to him not being worth his contract. Especially his first couple years where he was egregiously poor.

The contract is simply in the way, if he was playing well enough to earn it, specifically throughout the entirety of the contract, that's one thing, but he simply hasn't performed. There's no "extra angst" towards him, it's, "this guy is getting paid how much and this is how he plays?"

He was consistent in the first couple years of the contract...consistently bad.