Post-Game Talk: GAME 25 - BLACK FRIDAY INDEED - Pittsburgh 2 BRUINS 1

Gordoff

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BTW, a question of those in the know: When does the league front office shut down for the holidays? What is the last day that a team can make a trade before Christmas?
 

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It's an easier pass if the goal is for the receiver to stop the puck before shooting. For Pasta to get off the one-timer properly when the pass is coming at him from an angle, it needs to be spinning counter clock-wise, which is much easier for a left-hand player at the top of the umbrella to pull off than a righty, who naturally spins those angle passes clock-wise, the spin being caused by the hands being pulled slightly inward while making a passing motion.

The left-handed point man also has his hands further away from the penalty killing forwards than a righty making it harder to pick off the pass.

This issue is both McAvoy's reluctance to shoot, his indecisive decision making, and what hand he shoots with.

I'd put Lohrei there ASAP and see how it goes. If that fails, when Hampus comes back I'd use him there. But I'd have McAvoy permanent off the 1st PP unit pronto.

The other change I would make is I'd take Zacha off the PP unit, replace him with Brazeau and put Brazeau in the bumper and have him drift from the bumper to the front of the net trying to move defenders with him. Marchand would go down low beside the net where Zacha is now, Elias to the right side half-wall. Pasta in the same spot. The don't need to invert every player on the PP, Elias can work on his natural side.
Monty and now Sacco can't see the forest for the trees. Don't know what it is but they seem to have no imagination. Keep doing the same thing over and over with worse results.
The players last night looked as unmotivated as they did 2 weeks ago.
They need Attila The Hun behind the bench at this point?
If this goes on past the Holidays, I see no reason to keep 90% of the players or coaches on UP. Once the fans start voting with their $$$ it'll be curtains for all.
Some here have said that we're spoiled, if that's the case what are the multi-millionaire players?!!
 

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Under Montgomery, I feel like they tried an umbrella formation 1-1-3 one game and they got some good looks in. I'm not sure why there is a reluctance to change their scheme when it hasn't been successful at all, regardless of personnel changes on special teams. I like Chris Kelly, but having a PK specialist coach the PP is backwards.

Those lines are gross
 

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BTW, a question of those in the know: When does the league front office shut down for the holidays? What is the last day that a team can make a trade before Christmas?



“This year’s holiday roster freeze is set from December 20 through December 27. For the Christmas holiday, the league is breaking completely with no practices allowed from December 24 through 26.”
 
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KrejciWinger

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I guess I'm bias, but seeing people equate Zadorov and Malkin's infractions as "Fair they both get 5K" is crazy to me.

Obviously Zadorov started it and broke an important bench rule... but swinging a stick at a player's face seems way worse in terms of "Player Safety".

Then again, remember Trouba's baseball swing at Frederic? Strange league.
 

BruinDust

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Monty and now Sacco can't see the forest for the trees. Don't know what it is but they seem to have no imagination. Keep doing the same thing over and over with worse results.
The players last night looked as unmotivated as they did 2 weeks ago.
They need Attila The Hun behind the bench at this point?
If this goes on past the Holidays, I see no reason to keep 90% of the players or coaches on UP. Once the fans start voting with their $$$ it'll be curtains for all.
Some here have said that we're spoiled, if that's the case what are the multi-millionaire players?!!

Well, looks like they've change things up. Just based on face value, the PP changes are the equivalent of throwing poop at a wall and seeing what sticks. A big mish-mash of changes while maintaining the key problem (McAvoy at the top of the umbrella in a set-up to maximize left half-wall one-timers).
 

Dennis Bonvie

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Monty and now Sacco can't see the forest for the trees. Don't know what it is but they seem to have no imagination. Keep doing the same thing over and over with worse results.
The players last night looked as unmotivated as they did 2 weeks ago.
They need Attila The Hun behind the bench at this point?
If this goes on past the Holidays, I see no reason to keep 90% of the players or coaches on UP. Once the fans start voting with their $$$ it'll be curtains for all.
Some here have said that we're spoiled, if that's the case what are the multi-millionaire players?!!

You're spoiled.
 

Bridges31

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I guess I'm bias, but seeing people equate Zadorov and Malkin's infractions as "Fair they both get 5K" is crazy to me.

Obviously Zadorov started it and broke an important bench rule... but swinging a stick at a player's face seems way worse in terms of "Player Safety".

Then again, remember Trouba's baseball swing at Frederic? Strange league.
They only punish certain tiers of players. The evidence has been there for years.
 

BergyWho37

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It's an easier pass if the goal is for the receiver to stop the puck before shooting. For Pasta to get off the one-timer properly when the pass is coming at him from an angle, it needs to be spinning counter clock-wise, which is much easier for a left-hand player at the top of the umbrella to pull off than a righty, who naturally spins those angle passes clock-wise, the spin being caused by the hands being pulled slightly inward while making a passing motion.

The left-handed point man also has his hands further away from the penalty killing forwards than a righty making it harder to pick off the pass.

This issue is both McAvoy's reluctance to shoot, his indecisive decision making, and what hand he shoots with.

I'd put Lohrei there ASAP and see how it goes. If that fails, when Hampus comes back I'd use him there. But I'd have McAvoy permanent off the 1st PP unit pronto.

The other change I would make is I'd take Zacha off the PP unit, replace him with Brazeau and put Brazeau in the bumper and have him drift from the bumper to the front of the net trying to move defenders with him. Marchand would go down low beside the net where Zacha is now, Elias to the right side half-wall. Pasta in the same spot. The don't need to invert every player on the PP, Elias can work on his natural side.
This is overthinking it. John Carlson has been feeding OV for years and he’s RH it’s about disguising his passes by occasionally shooting it and then dishing it off the way Krug did to Marchy with the no look.

There passing is also extremely slow to put pressure on checkers so they get free space or to even push the goalie out of position play.

Lastly I love him but Pasta he needs to start hitting the net on those onetimers he is basically clearing the puck every time he misses the net. If he at least hits the net and we’re crashing like they should be they should get loose pucks off that rebound.

McAvoy needs too shoot occasionally yes but also needs to practice his no look which also means Pasta can’t be drifting to low so he can execute this.
 

BruinDust

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This is overthinking it. John Carlson has been feeding OV for years and he’s RH it’s about disguising his passes by occasionally shooting it and then dishing it off the way Krug did to Marchy with the no look.

There passing is also extremely slow to put pressure on checkers so they get free space or to even push the goalie out of position play.

Lastly I love him but Pasta he needs to start hitting the net on those onetimers he is basically clearing the puck every time he misses the net. If he at least hits the net and we’re crashing like they should be they should get loose pucks off that rebound.

McAvoy needs too shoot occasionally yes but also needs to practice his no look which also means Pasta can’t be drifting to low so he can execute this.

I get how it hasn't impacted OV. But he's a different shooter from Pasta. Uses a very high lie and his one-timer is more about sheer velocity with lots of weight and torque behind it. Just get as much blade on the shot as possible, the closer to the heel of the blade, the better.

Like you said, Pasta needs to hit the net more on those one-timers, and flipping the umbrella D from a righty to lefty should help Pasta get the one-tee on the net more often. The opposing D can see the pass coming from McAvoy the way he turns his feet inward to telegraph the pass.
 

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