GDT: Game 24: Red Wings vs canucks 12:30 pm et 12/1/24

[RedHawkDown]

I genuinely believe having no coach at all would be better than Derek Lalonde

 

[theYman]

Another 5-4 loss awesome. Just let them skate in

 

[aar000n]

What a bad goal to let in.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

I would rather they lost in regulation.

 

[JediOrderPizza]

Another 5-4 loss awesome. Just let them skate in

It's their defensive way, sit back and get scored on. Because they are afraid of getting scored on, makes sense right?

I'd rather they be more aggressive and get scored on, Seider and Ray just hold position instead of taking someone down.

 

[schuelma24]

I would rather they lost in regulation.

Same. As horrible as losing is, I'd rather *really* tank and have a shot at someone like Misa than get the 10th pick.

 

[Pavels Dog]

Fischer can’t make that play, wth.

That 1st period and then lose everything in the 2nd. 5-4 loss incoming.

Most predictable team

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

So we signed Patrick Kane and Vlad Tarasenko to flesh out our secondary scoring and not DeBrusk this offseason.

 

[SoupGuru]

I don't get this "defensive shell" complaint. Every team does it. I don't want these idiots making risky plays in their own zone. "Let me just swing this pass through the middle of the ice..." Hell no. You've got no options, chip it out. Don't force passes. And don't get caught on the wrong side of the puck, either. Man, you'd get crucified if your guy scores while you were cheating for offense. But that's all it takes for the ice to get titled sometimes.

 

[theYman]

I genuinely believe having no coach at all would be better than Derek Lalonde

And nobody on the ice for the PK just the goalie would be better

 

[JediOrderPizza]

So we signed Patrick Kane and Vlad Tarasenko to flesh out our secondary scoring and not DeBrusk this offseason.

Nobody wants to come here. Also no way would I give him 7 years.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

So we signed Patrick Kane and Vlad Tarasenko to flesh out our secondary scoring and not DeBrusk this offseason.

If you were a 27 year-old DeBrusk would you have signed with Vancouver or Detroit?

It's not like Detroit can sign whoever they want and the player has no say.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

If you were a 27 year-old DeBrusk would you have signed with Vancouver or Detroit?

Good point.

 

[JoesuffP]

This team needs an inspirer of men more than anything. Play with some belief

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Nobody wants to come here. Also no way would I give him 7 years.

This is probably why good free agents don't want to come here, no?

Gotta pay the cost, and you get what you pay for in free agency. DeBrusk would be Detroit's 3rd or 4th best forward.

 

[Pavels Dog]

So we signed Patrick Kane and Vlad Tarasenko to flesh out our secondary scoring and not DeBrusk this offseason.

Eh, just because he scored some fluke goals today doesn't mean I'd take him and that contract in Detroit.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

Almost a third of the way through the season, PK worst in the league by far. in 25th place in the standings.

Seems like it's getting time to pull the rip cord on the season. Especially if Talbot is out for any length of time.

 

[Realgud]

This team needs an inspirer of men more than anything. Play with some belief

Are you saying you don't like Derek "we were not supposed to be here" Lalonde?

 

[raymond23]

Team plays just like their coach. Weak and spineless

Oh well, go griffins

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Eh, just because he scored some fluke goals today doesn't mean I'd take him and that contract in Detroit.

He'd be either on line1 or 2 and PP1 in Detroit and likely be a 60+ point guy. That's what 60 point guys are worth these days, my dude. 19 points in 23 games for DeBrusk this year.

 

[JediOrderPizza]

This is probably why good free agents don't want to come here, no?

Gotta pay the cost, and you get what you pay for in free agency. DeBrusk would be Detroit's 3rd or 4th best forward.

If only we didnt have so many bad contracts already, I'd be willing to gamble.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

Sure thing it hasnt been structure that's the issue, Lalonde. Deflect much?

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Almost a third of the way through the season, PK worst in the league by far. in 25th place in the standings.

Seems like it's getting time to pull the rip cord on the season. Especially if Talbot is out for any length of time.

We gotta find a team willing to take our spare parts. Detroit has 3 retention slots. Kane, Tarasenko and Lyon look like good candidates for that to get anything of value.
Trade Veleno for a bag of pucks
Waive Gustafsson and swap him for one of our minor league defensemen. They can't be worse.
Run with Talbot and Husso.
Expect to see this team finish bottom 4 and pick a real impact prospect.

If only we didnt have so many bad contracts already, I'd be willing to gamble.

Management needs to become more willing to pay the price to move on from the bad contracts. Admit your mistakes, move on.

 

[GMR]

Same. As horrible as losing is, I'd rather *really* tank and have a shot at someone like Misa than get the 10th pick.

Misa?

Is that Jar Jar Binks' favorite player?

If you were a 27 year-old DeBrusk would you have signed with Vancouver or Detroit?

It's not like Detroit can sign whoever they want and the player has no say.

But....but......we're an original six franchise with a cool logo. Isn't that enticing to free agents?

 

[Pavels Dog]

He'd be either on line1 or 2 and PP1 in Detroit and likely be a 60+ point guy. That's what 60 point guys are worth these days, my dude. 19 points in 23 games for DeBrusk this year.

He'd probably be a 40 point guy in Detroit. Like, he was a 40 point guy in Boston and he'll probably end up between 40-50 in Vancouver this year too.
It's the back half of the deal that could be real problematic though. Yeah our team could improve in a myriad of ways, I just don't see overpaying Debrusk-types as the solution.