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Bertuzzi did his spin while the goaltender is in position.
He drags the puck literally 1 foot from the goalie with out a deke or anything…. Easiest stick check in the world!
See above for how to do it right!
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Bertuzzi did his spin while the goaltender is in position.
He drags the puck literally 1 foot from the goalie with out a deke or anything…. Easiest stick check in the world!
See above for how to do it right!
TheOtherOne
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Well you've explained how Bert screwed up his move. But you haven't explained how Datsyuk's was any better.
Datsyuk has scored on that in the past, but I am by no means happy with that attempt by Datsyuk either. He tried the same thing last shootout, and completely flubbed it. He heeds to get creative, and everyone knows he has a ton of creativity.
If I was the coach, I'd have a 3 hour practice tomorrow, with one thing on the agenda: shootouts.
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Nyquist is probably the 5th or 6th best fwd in this organization. Awful management.
EDIT: I mean, it's awful that is isn't with the Wings full-time yet at this point of his development.
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Well awful. Only so many times you can say "atleast we got a point".
With all these OT/SO-losses it's amazing the difference Gus could have made. Probably 2-4 points more in the standings, easy.
What do all these close OT/SO games mean? It means we're like right on the cusp of winning.
Could a faster, more skilled player replacing a slow baddy be a difference maker? It sure could. Maybe not every game turns into a win, but one or two of them, and that adding up over the course of 82 games.
Could a faster, more skilled player replacing a slow baddy be a difference maker? It sure could. Maybe not every game turns into a win, but one or two of them, and that adding up over the course of 82 games.
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My question: If he gets called up, and doesn't produce, then what? I'm playing devil's advocate here, but success in the AHL doesn't mean anything. The team is thin on depth and top 6 talent, but I guess on one hand, what's the harm, but on the other, everyone seems to expect that Nyquist's scoring in the AHL will just translate to the NHL.
Because it did?
He played a bunch of games last year through the end of the season and into the playoffs and he did just fine. He ignited the third line when before it had just been dead weight. Speed and skill. It just works.
Whether or not Nyquist can hack it in the NHL, is an answered question as far as I'm concerned. He played over 20 games last year as a combination of playoff and regular season games and once he settled in, he got it going. Unless somehow, that consistent span of games last year was a complete fluke, he will be a valuable top6 forward for years to come for some team. I just hope that team is us.
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The last 2 forwards we had (before Nyquist) that were ppg players in Grand Rapids were Jiri Hudler and Val Filppula.
Let me know how they're doing...
http://www.nhl.com/ice/playerstats.htm?fetchKey=20142ALLSASAll&sort=points&viewName=summary
HIFE
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He already has produced, part of multiple game winners. He was a HUGE part our success last PO's. I think Tatar is a good example of how he could be handled this season if he had less of an impact. Tatar had a slight letdown of energy and was sat. He responded positively and hasn't been sat again for several games now. Nyquist could be dealt with in the same way to shake him up, but I highly doubt that would be necessary.
100% of fans can't be wrong. Gus would majorly help this team right now. There is no doubt Nyquist will stick and prove, like Tatar, how necessary he is to the Red Wings.
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It's not like Tomas Tatar wasn't one of our best players tonight. He had a primary role in both of Mule's goals. Let's look at it the other way: is there any reason to expect Patrick Eaves, Mikael Samuelsson and Dan Cleary to ever be a significant contributor on an NHL team? I'm much more confident Tatar and Nyquist can help this team play in the offensive zone and win hockey games.
We could be. But we aren't.
This isn't really some hypothetical we're dealing with. We saw him play in the NHL already for a good long stretch against some damn good competition like the Hawks and Ducks in the playoffs. And he was one of our better players for his time here.
We're not guessing that he'll be good. He's already proven himself to be good.
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We had 2/3 of two good lines tonight:
Tatar-Mule. Helm really added nothing to that line, but you needed someone to center the line.
Hank-Pavs. Bert adds very little and if history is any gauge he will fade fairly quickly.
So on the one hand this is a good sign: 66% of our top 6 were legit scoring line players. The downside is Andersson is stuck with Cleary and Sammy, two guys who do absolutely nothing at even strength.
We didn't have a 4th line tonight but then again that's nothing new.
Tatar-Mule. Helm really added nothing to that line, but you needed someone to center the line.
Hank-Pavs. Bert adds very little and if history is any gauge he will fade fairly quickly.
So on the one hand this is a good sign: 66% of our top 6 were legit scoring line players. The downside is Andersson is stuck with Cleary and Sammy, two guys who do absolutely nothing at even strength.
We didn't have a 4th line tonight but then again that's nothing new.
HIFE
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I totally agree, I was trying to reason how the club could possibly deal with a situation like Nyquist being unable to produce, which will never happen anyways. Remember we are replying to an advocate of the devil!
As a coach I would never have sat Tatar, it is a mockery. That guy is so hungry we've created an animal and by holding him back longer than the Wings should have he is like a tiger let out of a cage. I love his level of aggression. **** I get amped to simply watch him pick up the puck along the boards and start tearing up the ice. That guy is a gamer, just like Nyquist, and exactly what the Wings need to invigorate themselves.
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Haha i'm 3for3 now... you better start believing me, guys.
Watch 2 periods, decent flow, go to bed, woke up, lost a 2 goal lead, lose in shoot-out....Ahh.........
gretskidoo
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He gets to actually become used to the NHL instead of stifling his development in the AHL? The actual reason he should be in the NHL despite being better than 70% of our current forwards.
mass panic. He'd just be another unproductive forward at that point, and I guess we'd have to choose which unproductive forwards we wanted in the lineup on any given night. I get the impression you're saying more that what if he doesn't produce at the level he's expected to produce at, though (rather than at all). My expectation would be for around .3 ppg, and I'd just hope he could hit that.
Smith came up and looked very good for a 14 game stretch a few years ago, and it's been pretty rough since. I think it's a fair question and it's more about expectations for Nyquist. I don't think there's a chance that he continues scoring at a point per game pace in the NHL. I think the absolute high is around .5 - which is what Datsyuk and Zetterberg were around in their rookie years. It's probably more likely that he puts up around a .3 ppg.
This isn't to say he couldn't contribute outside of a scoresheet, of course.
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