GDT: Game 19| Winnipeg Jets at Detroit Red Wings | November 12, 2013, 7:30 PM | FSD

[Frk It]

We're officially the 11-12 Florida Panthers

I don't get it. ????

 

[Brandel*]

Can't believe that people are putting this loss all on Howard.

we're not, there's just no point in complaining about the same offensive problems we've always had.

Howard is not helping us at all

 

[chances14]

I don't get it. ????

They had like a million ot losses

 

[DanZ]

we're not, there's just no point in complaining about the same offensive problems we've always had.

Howard is not helping us at all

2 Goals Against. Teams are supposed to be able to win when they only allow 2 goals, especially when they dramatically out shoot the opposition.

 

[SoupNazi]

They had like a million ot losses

That they did.

 

[The Zermanator]

Howard cannot make saves in the shootout when it matters.

That is a BAD THING IN A LEAGUE WITH SHOOTOUTS.

Meh, there's no shootouts in the playoffs. But we need scoring to get into the playoffs. Howard's not the problem.

 

[ThankYouBasedGod]

Meh, there's no shootouts in the playoffs. But we need scoring to get into the playoffs. Howard's not the problem.

There is not just one problem. Howard is not the only problem, but if you don't see A problem with his play so far then you should start watching more closely or something.

 

[The Zermanator]

There is not just one problem. Howard is not the only problem, but if you don't see A problem with his play so far then you should start watching more closely or something.

You don't lose because your goalie let in 2 goals. He's got a .910 sv% and a 2.68 GAA. He needs to be better obviously but his numbers have taken a hit because of defensive breakdowns. You can win with goalie numbers like that. Howard's issues are pretty far down the list.

 

[detredWINgs]

Can't believe that people are putting this loss all on Howard.

All on Howard?

Kenny went against his own law and dropped more than $4M into a goaltender. And why? Because our defense isn't what it used to be. That implies that Holland expected and is expecting Howard to compensate for the defense - not live and die with their blunders.

He's 5-5-5 and his GAA and SV% are hovering around 25th in the NHL. He is part of the problem.

 

[detredWINgs]

2 Goals Against. Teams are supposed to be able to win when they only allow 2 goals, especially when they dramatically out shoot the opposition.

Teams are also supposed to be able to count on their alleged bona fide starting goalies to make more than a key save or two and make a stop in the friggin shootout.

 

[ThankYouBasedGod]

You don't lose because your goalie let in 2 goals. He's got a .910 sv% and a 2.68 GAA. He needs to be better obviously but his numbers have taken a hit because of defensive breakdowns. You can win with goalie numbers like that. Howard's issues are pretty far down the list.

One of them which was his fault. You don't win in the shootout when your goalie lets in both shots he faces. And it's not just this game either. Howard has had one actual good game all year, the others have either been average or bad. There is a reason he ranks 27th in save percentage this season.

 

[ProPAIN]

I don't get it. ????

They had 18 OT/SO losses. However they still won their division with 13 less wins than Pittsburgh and less wins than Buffalo who were 9th in the East that year. The SE was downright awful.

 

[drw02]

Howard should have been able to steal this game for us. Jets weren't giving him a hard time with only 21 shots. Winnipeg's 2nd goal was all on Howard. No clue wth he was doing there. Can't make a stop in the shootout...he has to be better if this team is going to be anything close to a cup contender.

 

[SoupNazi]

Since these topics are being covered in the post-game talk thread, let's continue there.