GDT: G23: Blackhawks @ Wild | 1PM

[57special]

I'm so glad he did it. Totally worth 4 millions to get one shot on goal every 8th game or so.

It's 3.5M, even better than you thought!

 

[Waiver Draft]

 

[Luceni]

I just see Rossi's point of view: You're an All-Rookie-team NHL'er in your sophomore season, pacing for 65-70 Points. You have played a good season so far, even if your coach demotes you sometimes to send a message, while others can do what they want - no consequences.

You've played an overall good game and in the 2nd period Hynes finally realises that it wasn't a great idea, splitting up Rossi/Kap.

Then you draw a penalty, 4:00+ minutes before the game ends. As reward for your strong performance you get your ass benched while every other top 6 forward + Trenin + Freddy get TOI.

Man I would be so pissed if I was Rossi, what else does he have to do to climb Hynes "ladder of trust"? What's that ladder for others?

I still think that is not the way you should handle your young, developing top 6 center.

Don't get me wrong, I'm happy the wild won but I'm not sure what else Rossi has to do to gain Hynes trust? Carry a line with trenin & Foligno on it? Thats not happening in this league.

 

[f7ben]

This Rossi thing is easy to explain, they don’t want him putting up 80 points this year which makes him impossible to bridge for 5mx2 so he gets no pp1 times and he will not be in the ice for empty nets no maybe what.

 

[MrRuin]

You really need to take of your Rossi homer glasses. I already explained to you why he was not on the ice on the PP and it makes sense if you think about it. Just let it go…he keeps playing well and shows consistency he will get the nod even in the last minutes of a game. Still so much hockey to play this season and in his Wild career. Where would he go if he got all the opportunities just gifted to him? He is not a veteran.

Edit: referring to Luceni

 

[Waiver Draft]

 

[Jagged Ice]

Parade route should just run all the way down Grand Ave in June.

 

[Luceni]

You really need to take of your Rossi homer glasses. I already explained to you why he was not on the ice on the PP and it makes sense if you think about it. Just let it go…he keeps playing well and shows consistency he will get the nod even in the last minutes of a game. Still so much hockey to play this season and in his Wild career. Where would he go if he got all the opportunities just gifted to him? He is not a veteran.

Edit: referring to Luceni

It has nothing to do with "Rossi homer glasses". When I see an unfair treatment of a player I'm gonna say it. If Ohgren or Heidt were in the same Situation like Rossi, I'd criticize Hynes too about his treatment of Ohgren/Heidt.

We're talking about an All-Rookie NHL'er here in his sophomore season, who has done everything they ask of him so far without hesitation. He worked his ass of the last couple offseasons and is currently on pace for 65-70 points. He is most likely the third best forward on the wild so far this season and still he is the one who will need to gain Hynes trust. Others can do what the hell they want, no messages/consequences/benching.

I thought if you have a young promising player you do everything to help him succeed and get more experienced. I don't have that feeling woth Hynes & the Front office. Instead, Rossi is mostly the one in the doghouse and we can read trade rumors from Russo about Rossi for months now.

I'm sure Rossi is gonna have a fine & long NHL career. I just don't see it with the Wild anymore. If I were in his place I'd not sign any offer they make. They have treated him just awfully the last 2 years. I'd be pissed.

 

[NHL1674]

GGs.

Yet another game goes by watching the Hawks where Bedard is unnoticeable outside the PP.

Bedard 4 goals in 23 games
Celebrini 7 goals in 13 games

Just saying.....

 

[Minnewildsota]

It has nothing to do with "Rossi homer glasses". When I see an unfair treatment of a player I'm gonna say it. If Ohgren or Heidt were in the same Situation like Rossi, I'd criticize Hynes too about his treatment of Ohgren/Heidt.

We're talking about an All-Rookie NHL'er here in his sophomore season, who has done everything they ask of him so far without hesitation. He worked his ass of the last couple offseasons and is currently on pace for 65-70 points. He is most likely the third best forward on the wild so far this season and still he is the one who will need to gain Hynes trust. Others can do what the hell they want, no messages/consequences/benching.

I thought if you have a young promising player you do everything to help him succeed and get more experienced. I don't have that feeling woth Hynes & the Front office. Instead, Rossi is mostly the one in the doghouse and we can read trade rumors from Russo about Rossi for months now.

I'm sure Rossi is gonna have a fine & long NHL career. I just don't see it with the Wild anymore. If I were in his place I'd not sign any offer they make. They have treated him just awfully the last 2 years. I'd be pissed.

Young players don’t get gifted time/ice. It always has been and always will be, unless they’re some generational talent.

It might piss you off to hear this but… Rossi isn’t a generational talent.

My counterpoint to your annoyance is that Rossi seems to be developing quite well, so they’re not really doing anything wrong in that department.

 

[Roman Maroni]

They left off the fact that Trenin had his first shot on goal since god was a pup……

 

[MrRuin]

It has nothing to do with "Rossi homer glasses". When I see an unfair treatment of a player I'm gonna say it. If Ohgren or Heidt were in the same Situation like Rossi, I'd criticize Hynes too about his treatment of Ohgren/Heidt.

We're talking about an All-Rookie NHL'er here in his sophomore season, who has done everything they ask of him so far without hesitation. He worked his ass of the last couple offseasons and is currently on pace for 65-70 points. He is most likely the third best forward on the wild so far this season and still he is the one who will need to gain Hynes trust. Others can do what the hell they want, no messages/consequences/benching.

I thought if you have a young promising player you do everything to help him succeed and get more experienced. I don't have that feeling woth Hynes & the Front office. Instead, Rossi is mostly the one in the doghouse and we can read trade rumors from Russo about Rossi for months now.

I'm sure Rossi is gonna have a fine & long NHL career. I just don't see it with the Wild anymore. If I were in his place I'd not sign any offer they make. They have treated him just awfully the last 2 years. I'd be pissed.

If you are not a homer then your takes are just bad. Sorry but you need to understand what you are watching. Almost looks to me like you never played a competitive team sport. There are hierarchies within a team you do need to respect as a player and yes also as a coach. There are many of these small details that make a team successful we are not privy to.

There are also instances where you can question a player’s deployment - and I have been wondering the same at times this season - but this has changed quite a bit. I actually think Hynes has given Rossi more and more responsibility in games he has played well in. And as the sample size gets bigger so will his share of the pie.

I am also glad „you“ are not Rossi. Because with an attitude like you are proposing his professional NHL career would be quite short. Self entitlement would be a sure way off any roster in this league.

 

[Luceni]

If you are not a homer then your takes are just bad. Sorry but you need to understand what you are watching. Almost looks to me like you never played a competitive team sport. There are hierarchies within a team you do need to respect as a player and yes also as a coach. There are many of these small details that make a team successful we are not privy to.

There are also instances where you can question a player’s deployment - and I have been wondering the same at times this season - but this has changed quite a bit. I actually think Hynes has given Rossi more and more responsibility in games he has played well in. And as the sample size gets bigger so will his share of the pie.

I am also glad „you“ are not Rossi. Because with an attitude like you are proposing his professional NHL career would be quite short. Self entitlement would be a sure way off any roster in this league.

Not sure if you're serious or just trolling. My personal life and experiences in competitive sports has no place here - just don't worry. But believe me when I say that I've head plenty of experience in competitive sports as a soccer player and leading teams vocational. I also watch the NHL for over 20 years now.

If u can't see that the FO or Hynes are biased when it comes to Rossi, you're blind. For me it's obvious. It's the way they've treated him the past couple of years. You can read about it in my last 2 posts.

Rossi is no Rookie anymore. His play this season so far should earn more trust than they're willing to give him. How should he get experienced in close situations at the end of the game when he gets benched? Don't you think that the treatment he got the past couple of years should have hurt his self confidence?

The way I see it: There were so many situations in the past where I thought they want Rossi to fail. They made it harder for him to become the best player he could be. They've demoted him in the past while other players would have earned a demotion more than him - just to send a message to the team.

Rossi is the player he is now because he seems to have unbreakable dedication for the game. He didn't get much help from his coaches (Evason/Hynes) so far. If anyone says Rossi is the player he is now because of how the coaching / FO treats him: They couldn't be further away from the truth. Rossi is not the player he is today because of the coaches, but despite them!

If u don't see it that way then we just have to agree to disagree. I'm not mad about anyone who has got a different opinion but you won't change mine. I saw what happened on the ice the last two years and that are the facts I'm building on my argumentation in that case.

 

[Minnewildsota]

Not sure if you're serious or just trolling. My personal life and experiences in competitive sports has no place here - just don't worry. But believe me when I say that I've head plenty of experience in competitive sports as a soccer player and leading teams vocational. I also watch the NHL for over 20 years now.

If u can't see that the FO or Hynes are biased when it comes to Rossi, you're blind. For me it's obvious. It's the way they've treated him the past couple of years. You can read about it in my last 2 posts.

Rossi is no Rookie anymore. His play this season so far should earn more trust than they're willing to give him. How should he get experienced in close situations at the end of the game when he gets benched? Don't you think that the treatment he got the past couple of years should have hurt his self confidence?

The way I see it: There were so many situations in the past where I thought they want Rossi to fail. They made it harder for him to become the best player he could be. They've demoted him in the past while other players would have earned a demotion more than him - just to send a message to the team.

Rossi is the player he is now because he seems to have unbreakable dedication for the game. He didn't get much help from his coaches (Evason/Hynes) so far. If anyone says Rossi is the player he is now because of how the coaching / FO treats him: They couldn't be further away from the truth. Rossi is not the player he is today because of the coaches, but despite them!

If u don't see it that way then we just have to agree to disagree. I'm not mad about anyone who has got a different opinion but you won't change mine. I saw what happened on the ice the last two years and that are the facts I'm building on my argumentation in that case.

Who has Rossi mostly played with this season? Do you view that as a reward or a punishment?

What “punishments” do you think they’ve handed out to Rossi? I’ll need you to be specific.

 

[MrRuin]

Rossi is the player he is now because he seems to have unbreakable dedication for the game. He didn't get much help from his coaches (Evason/Hynes) so far. If anyone says Rossi is the player he is now because of how the coaching / FO treats him: They couldn't be further away from the truth. Rossi is not the player he is today because of the coaches, but despite them!

That’s such a ridiculous statement and there is simply no proof that is true in any way, shape or form. The facts you so diligently speak of actually lead to a completely different conclusion.

He absolutely developed his game over the last two years. I still remember the first ~20 games he played in the league. Probably their only mistake not sending him to the AHL right away. But after that they pushed all the right buttons with Rossi. All the evidence points to that being the case. Just look at Bedard this season and he has all the opportunities they can throw at him. Not the best for every player all the time.

Rossi is earning his time, he is forcing himself into the conversation. He is a Fighter and I am SURE he wouldn’t want to have it any other way. This is how lasting improvement can be achieved and how players and teams are shaped.