World Cup: Future Ideas and proposals

[NHL Dude 120]

Ok so there is a long time till the world cup starts so lets get ideas so the NHL doesn't **** it up. My ideas

1. It will be every 4 years (i.e 2020, 2024,2028 etc etc) in return for the IIHF and other federations support the NHL agrees to permanent Olympic participation.
2. Top six ranked teams qualify according to IIHF rankings. Teams ranked 7 to 10 will play each other top two teams qualify.
3. the Semi will be a best of five series and the final and the bronze match will be a best of 3 meaning at minimum a total of 19 matches.
4. NHL teams will bid for the right to host matches, also ticket prices will be equal regardless of arena (i.e. Toronto cant charge more then lets say Anaheim because of location)
5. Both National anthems will be played before the puck drops
6.Teams will be allowed to have a two week training camp and play 3 exhibition games
7. Every player named to their squad must play one match in order to receive a medal, if their team gets to the medal round.

Most of them are stupid but might as well get ideas rolling .

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[Canuckistani]

Ok so there is a long time till the world cup starts so lets get ideas so the NHL doesn't **** it up. My ideas

1. It will be every 4 years (i.e 2020, 2024,2028 etc etc) in return for the IIHF and other federations support the NHL agrees to permanent Olympic participation.

This would be ideal. It would be great if hockey were to create the sort of arrangement with the Olympics and World Cup that soccer has where FIFA World Cups and UEFA Euro Cups alternate every two years.

2. Top six ranked teams qualify according to IIHF rankings. Teams ranked 7 to 10 will play each other top two teams qualify.

Or just take the top eight ranked countries if a qualifying process proves too difficult. The old Canada Cup used to take the top six countries from the previous WHC/Olympics (which is why West Germany replaced Finland in 1984). But yes, qualifying would be ideal.

3. the Semi will be a best of five series and the final and the bronze match will be a best of 3 meaning at minimum a total of 19 matches.

By "semi" do you mean round robin? I don't see the point in a best-of-five semi and a then a best-of-three series for the medals.

The 1996 format was the best: three round-robin games per team followed by QF crossovers for the 2nd and 3rd places, semifinals, best-of-three final. Although the 2016 format isn't bad either: 1st vs 2nd semifinal crossovers, and best-of-three final.

4. NHL teams will bid for the right to host matches, also ticket prices will be equal regardless of arena (i.e. Toronto cant charge more then lets say Anaheim because of location)

One has to consider travel-time. You can't have matches within the same group being played in LA, Miami and Toronto. The best would be to have group matches played within the same general area.

5. Both National anthems will be played before the puck drops

Isn't that how it usually works?

6.Teams will be allowed to have a two week training camp and play 3 exhibition games

More or less how the previous Canada/World Cups worked.

7. Every player named to their squad must play one match in order to receive a medal, if their team gets to the medal round.

Sure.

 

[joe89]

Bo5 would be thrilling but the problem is always gonna be that it takes a lot of time. Don't think either side would be for it anyway, teams don't wanna see their key players play that much before the season even starts and the NHLPA would likely object to players playing upwards of 120 games in one season. I think a bo3 final is how far you can stretch it, and it's maybe even reasonable.

Ticket prices being equal no matter the location beats the whole purpose of the tournament which is to make money. Think NHL is doing it just for fun and for the fans? Wrong.

 

[JackSlater]

Ok so there is a long time till the world cup starts so lets get ideas so the NHL doesn't **** it up. My ideas

1. It will be every 4 years (i.e 2020, 2024,2028 etc etc) in return for the IIHF and other federations support the NHL agrees to permanent Olympic participation.
2. Top six ranked teams qualify according to IIHF rankings. Teams ranked 7 to 10 will play each other top two teams qualify.
3. the Semi will be a best of five series and the final and the bronze match will be a best of 3 meaning at minimum a total of 19 matches.
4. NHL teams will bid for the right to host matches, also ticket prices will be equal regardless of arena (i.e. Toronto cant charge more then lets say Anaheim because of location)
5. Both National anthems will be played before the puck drops
6.Teams will be allowed to have a two week training camp and play 3 exhibition games
7. Every player named to their squad must play one match in order to receive a medal, if their team gets to the medal round.

Most of them are stupid but might as well get ideas rolling .

1. Yes.

2. Just take the top 8 from the IIHF rankings. The qualifying for those last spots adds games that will somewhat scare the clubs that release the players and may hurt those bottom teams relative to the top teams.

3. It would be nice, but it's not realistic to have a best of five. Even for scheduling, if one semi is over in three games but the other goes five games there could be quite a lull period, plus teams don't want their players participating in that many games. Bronze game is pointless, but I guess since making money is a consideration then it should be played.

4. Why punish better hockey markets? Let the market dictate the prices (for better or worse).

5. I guess. I don't think it matters very much. The previous tournaments used this format.

6. Sounds good, and is an improvement on the Olympics. Also similar to the old tournaments.

7. I guess. Doesn't seem like a big deal.

The format for the 1996 World Cup is ideal - they should just copy it directly. I would host it in just one or two cities within one country for any given tournament. It mitigates travel issues and allows for better atmosphere. Start with Toronto, go to Europe next time, come back to North America the time after and so on.

 

[tony d]

I've always said for a true World Cup, have it be 24 nations like it used to be for the soccer World Cup. Sure there would be a few blowouts but it would give some of the lesser hockey nations a chance in the spotlight.

 

[Nakawick]

I think that the World Cup and the Olympics alternating every 2 years is ideal. Keep the 8 teams who are already qualified for the Olympics in the world cup. The Olympic qualifiers for the remaining spots takes place at about the same time. So every nation would have their national team playing at the same time. Have 8 teams play a round robin and then the top 4 play in the semi finals and finals. Host it in one or two cities as mentioned by a previous poster. Have a training camp and even tryouts with cuts. Mostly all players will be available and healthy to play. Keep the single elimination format and get rid of the third place game. Have it in North America.

The Olympics is 12 teams. Make two divisions of 6 with crossover quarters, semi's, then bronze and gold.

Keep the world championships an annual event in Europe at 16 teams. It works well in Europe and gives more opportunity for other countries and players to play.

 

[Zero Pucks Given]

I think that the World Cup and the Olympics alternating every 2 years is ideal. Keep the 8 teams who are already qualified for the Olympics in the world cup. The Olympic qualifiers for the remaining spots takes place at about the same time. So every nation would have their national team playing at the same time. Have 8 teams play a round robin and then the top 4 play in the semi finals and finals. Host it in one or two cities as mentioned by a previous poster. Have a training camp and even tryouts with cuts. Mostly all players will be available and healthy to play. Keep the single elimination format and get rid of the third place game. Have it in North America.

The Olympics is 12 teams. Make two divisions of 6 with crossover quarters, semi's, then bronze and gold.

Keep the world championships an annual event in Europe at 16 teams. It works well in Europe and gives more opportunity for other countries and players to play.

Or have the World Cup alternate being hosted between North America and Europe.

For example, have 1 or 2 cities in Canada/US host the games, then in the next cycle, have a European nation (i.e. Russia) have 1 or 2 of its own cities host the games. The next World Cup tournament goes back to North America, then to a different European nation, and so on.

 

[Gylf]

I believe that the Canada Cup-format is the best so far because all the top teams play each other at least once. But as for international hockey today 6 nations isn't enough i m o.

I have three suggestions.

One is tog have 8 teams with everyone playing each other once in Round-Robin. Top 4 plays semifinal. It will be 9 games for the teams that go all the way to final which probably is the factor that doesn't make this happen (although the old Canada Cup also had nine games with 3 final games).

The second is to have 12 teams in three groups like in the latest Olympics. My suggestion is to change the playoff-format. 2 teams from each groups qualify to the next stage which is 2 groups with 3 teams in every group. The winner from each of the 2 groups go to the final. That's gives a total of 6 games for the teams that play the final. The winner needs to play at least 3 or 4 of the top nations and a great team isn't automatically out of the picture early if they lose one game like a quarterfinal. More nations also get a chance to participate with this format.

The third suggestion from me is to have both the Olympic and Canada Cup-format. It could work with both 8, 10 or 12 teams. 2 groups were the top 3 teams get to the next stage which is one group of 6 teams. The games against the other to 2 teams from the first group will count and you play the other 3 teams. The top 2 play the final or the top 4 play semifinal. With 8 teams and without semifinals this will give a total 7 games for the final teams. With 10 teams it's 8 games and 9 games with 12 teams. Top 6 teams will play each other once to get to the final.

And for all 3 suggestions IIHF world rankings is the qualifier and no Allstar-teams like U23 or "Rest of Europe"...

 

[OilerPensfan97]

Future ideas? Scrap the Under 23 team. That is so stupid. So when McDavid plays in the World Cup, he's not going to be playing for Team Canada? That is so outrageously dumb. He shouldn't play for anyone other than Canada.