FSN explains why SoG is now part of the FoxBox on TV (Kings prompted the change)

[TonySCV]

http://awfulannouncing.com/2014/new-technology-graphics-statistics-brought-nhl-telecasts.html

Interesting that the Kings Cup run last year prompted the change.

It’s all part of hockey’s lean towards the statistical, and a simple desire to explain why things were happening after he took note of the Los Angeles Kings’ run to the Stanley Cup, which Connelly calls “maybe the greatest run of any team in professional athletics in the United States that we’ve ever seen.â€

“It really started in the playoffs,†Connelly explains. “If you look at the stats with the Kings, they were outshot almost every game. They were just outshot left and right, but their scoring chances were 2 to 1 (in their favor) every game, and their shot efficiency was great. We never saw that, in the Canadian productions, the local ones or the NBC broadcasts.â€

“We weren’t putting up these pertinent stats that could tell us the story behind the story.†However, the end reason for why you’re seeing this graphic is more or less a simple adjustment. “We don’t want to roll analytics into the Fox box the entire game, but if you look at the scoreboard in every arena you see two things: the score and the shots on goal. We wanted to start with shots on goal on the screen just to see people respond to it, and so far the response has been positive, other than it might be a little too big and a little too distracting.â€

Shots on goal may not be the only thing you see up there, it’s just being used during the early season’s small sample size. “It will evolve as we move through the season,†Connelly says. “We go back to the LA Kings, because we want to show scoring chances. They really make the most of every scoring chance, and as the season evolves and as these teams start developing, you’ll see more stats. Whether it be scoring chances or hits or otal shots, blocked shots, whatever the key storyline.â€

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[mbar]

So they should just pop up a relevant stat now and then and not just show one thing all the time taking up space. The problem is that the person deciding what to put on the screen would have to understand the game to determine what stat is relevant to pop on the screen and I doubt they have that level of knowledge so they default to shots unless they hear foxy talk about something else then they pop that up.

It's a waste of TV space and poorly used. It should be far less frequent and the sports ticker should also be occasional instead of oppressively continuous.

I still don't understand who values a continuous sports ticker? It ruins the scores of other sporting events I may want to watch later and the info it provides is easily available via phone or computer to anyone who actually wants it. It takes up a huge amount of the picture. It's a joke.

 

[Bee Sheriff]

So they should just pop up a relevant stat now and then and not just show one thing all the time taking up space. The problem is that the person deciding what to put on the screen would have to understand the game to determine what stat is relevant to pop on the screen and I doubt they have that level of knowledge so they default to shots unless they hear foxy talk about something else then they pop that up.

It's a waste of TV space and poorly used. It should be far less frequent and the sports ticker should also be occasional instead of oppressively continuous.

I still don't understand who values a continuous sports ticker? It ruins the scores of other sporting events I may want to watch later and the info it provides is easily available via phone or computer to anyone who actually wants it. It takes up a huge amount of the picture. It's a joke.

You can see the entire game just fine.

 

[mbar]

You can see the entire game just fine.

I could see it better if 5% of the upper corner wasn't hidden behind a box and 5% of the bottom wasn't concealed behind a bunch of useless and unwanted information.

 

[Muzzinga]

Thats unfortunate, because its awful

 

[Buddy The Elf]

I don't mind the SOG addition. But I don't understand why the bottom of the screen looks like Bloomberg TV with euro soccer scores and other useless ****. In fact, I don't understand why scores for anything are relevant anymore. If I want to know the score to a game, I'll either change the channel or look it up on my phone or tablet.

 

[TonySCV]

I don't mind the SOG addition. But I don't understand why the bottom of the screen looks like Bloomberg TV with euro soccer scores and other useless ****. In fact, I don't understand why scores for anything are relevant anymore. If I want to know the score to a game, I'll either change the channel or look it up on my phone or tablet.

I wish that bottom ticker would go too - or at least show for a minute or two and take it off. No one needs to be kept that up to date. NHL Network is horrible with this too.

I do think that if they can find a way to show both SoG and scoring chances in a non-obtrusive way, that would be an interesting combo of info to have.

FWIW, the FoxBox is FAR smaller now than it has ever been. It used to be a band that took up the entire top of the screen. It's fine size-wise. It just needs a bit more relevant info.

 

[Ron*]

Sky Cam telecasting looks horrid.

When I am sitting in my seat at Staples, I am not moving all over the place like Sky Cam is.

If it ain't broke, fix it until it breaks. That's government policy. It shouldn't be the policy of NHL television producers.

 

[Buddy The Elf]

I wish that bottom ticker would go too - or at least show for a minute or two and take it off. No one needs to be kept that up to date. NHL Network is horrible with this too.

No.. I'm taking a firm stance on this. That thing is completely useless. There is absolutely no information provided on there that I can't have readily available to me if I actually wanted to know. Instead, I'm being force fed scores from leagues or games I don't care about. Here's a thought, maybe somebody is actually interested in some of those games and is planning to watch them later. It's a lose/lose as far as I'm concerned. In fact, I'm so passionate about this I might actually write an email to FSW.

 

[MynameisKing]

I don't mind the SOG addition. But I don't understand why the bottom of the screen looks like Bloomberg TV with euro soccer scores and other useless ****. In fact, I don't understand why scores for anything are relevant anymore. If I want to know the score to a game, I'll either change the channel or look it up on my phone or tablet.

That evil word that every network exec cringes when they hear that! I think the whole purpose is for everyone to keep their eyes glued to the tube. They don't want your eyes straying elsewhere either it be your phone or tablet!

 

[Buddy The Elf]

That evil word that every network exec cringes when they hear that! I think the whole purpose is for everyone to keep their eyes glued to the tube. They don't want your eyes straying elsewhere either it be your phone or tablet!

Cool, well they might as well put some other useless stuff up there too while there at it. The other day I was trying to figure out what temperature to grill Salmon at while I was watching the game. Maybe they could put up some cooking tips in another window of the screen? When I'm tuned into Fox Sports West, it is for one reason. I want to watch the Kings game. Putting up a bunch of other useless crap on the screen isn't going to prevent me from changing the channel. In fact, what if I see that there is a close NFL game going on that Sunday afternoon and decide to DVR the Kings game where I can skip the commercials in favor of watching that exciting NFL game that FSW just informed me of. It works both ways but the bottom line is I think most people do not care about the information they are giving.

 

[MynameisKing]

Hey who knows, maybe in the future they'd have the technology to provide a personal experience to view the game how you like. Like have a billion tickers across the screen, dancing bikini girls on the lower corners, and biblical quotes on the upper corners. Maybe go pro will be on every player's helmets so you can see game action at ice level!

 

[Reclamation Project]

Corsi ticker please?

 

[NikF]

It should be interactive. Stats would be tracked but you could switch it off with your remote or trigger it on or select the ones you're interested in. I don't know anything about technology in that regard, but if it doesn't exist here's your next big business idea.

 

[MynameisKing]

Hey who knows, maybe in the future they'd have the technology to provide a personal experience to view the game how you like. Like have a billion tickers across the screen, dancing bikini girls on the lower cirners, and biblical quotes on the upper corners. Maybe go pro will be on every players helmet so you can see game action at ice level!

Edit: double post. Don't know what happened. Just hit my back key.

 

[Vamos Rafa]

I remember when ESPN would remind you that the star player on each team is currently on the ice.

 

[Buddy The Elf]

Hey who knows, maybe in the future they'd have the technology to provide a personal experience to view the game how you like. Like have a billion tickers across the screen, dancing bikini girls on the lower corners, and biblical quotes on the upper corners. Maybe go pro will be on every player's helmets so you can see game action at ice level!

Yeah, I've been to the future and this is how it looks:

Its actually sad how that movie is not far off from how things are these days and that movie was only made like 10 years ago.

 

[Chazz Reinhold]

http://awfulannouncing.com/2014/new-technology-graphics-statistics-brought-nhl-telecasts.html

Interesting that the Kings Cup run last year prompted the change.

It’s all part of hockey’s lean towards the statistical, and a simple desire to explain why things were happening after he took note of the Los Angeles Kings’ run to the Stanley Cup, which Connelly calls “maybe the greatest run of any team in professional athletics in the United States that we’ve ever seen.”

“It really started in the playoffs,” Connelly explains. “If you look at the stats with the Kings, they were outshot almost every game. They were just outshot left and right, but their scoring chances were 2 to 1 (in their favor) every game, and their shot efficiency was great. We never saw that, in the Canadian productions, the local ones or the NBC broadcasts.”

“We weren’t putting up these pertinent stats that could tell us the story behind the story.” However, the end reason for why you’re seeing this graphic is more or less a simple adjustment. “We don’t want to roll analytics into the Fox box the entire game, but if you look at the scoreboard in every arena you see two things: the score and the shots on goal. We wanted to start with shots on goal on the screen just to see people respond to it, and so far the response has been positive, other than it might be a little too big and a little too distracting.”

Shots on goal may not be the only thing you see up there, it’s just being used during the early season’s small sample size. “It will evolve as we move through the season,” Connelly says. “We go back to the LA Kings, because we want to show scoring chances. They really make the most of every scoring chance, and as the season evolves and as these teams start developing, you’ll see more stats. Whether it be scoring chances or hits or total shots, blocked shots, whatever the key storyline.”

Dropping by to point out that the bolded is utter crap. That guy needs to check his facts before basing his premise off whatever confirmation bias he's carrying there.

In the playoffs, the Kings:
-outshot opponents 17 times and were outshot 9 times;
-out-Fenwicked opponents 17 times and were out-Fenwicked 9 times; and
-out-Corsi'd opponents 14 times, were out-Corsi-d 11 times, and split the Corsi attempts 50/50 1 time.

Focusing on 5-on-5 close situations only, the numbers change only slightly:
-outshot opponents 13 times, were outshot 10 times, and split shots 3 times;
-out-Fenwicked opponents 14 times, were out-Fenwicked 9 times, and split Fenwick 3 times; and
-out-Corsi'd opponents 18 times, were out-Corsi'd 7 times, and split Corsi 1 time.

http://giphy.com/gifs/kS1aph1nPE1lm

I'm out.

 

[MynameisKing]

Yeah, I've been to the future and this is how it looks:

Its actually sad how that movie is not far off from how things are these days and that movie was only made like 10 years ago.

I'm still waiting for Starbucks to offer lap dances with my double latte!

 

[Reclamation Project]

I'm still waiting for Starbucks to offer lap dances with my double latte!

Give this guy a raise!

 

[MynameisKing]

 

[Herby]

Hey look on the bright side, atleast they didn't bring back the rinkside view broadcasts!

Oh man, those were the days. Every single Lakers game was in HD and FSW put a handful of Kings games in HD and all of them were rinkside broadcasts.

And remember during that mess, when everyone was pissed and complaining one of the execs or producers at FSW came up with the gem..

"Rinkside broadcasts are here to stay, whether people like it or not"

Amazing what a couple of Stanley Cups and the other teams in town bolting for Time Warner can do ton the quality of a broadcast.

 

[Vamos Rafa]

Does anyone know if other networks will follow suit? Because I haven't seen it on the NBCSN broadcasts yet.

 

[rajuabju]

The SOG counter is evil, horrible, horrendous.

 

[Buddy The Elf]

They should devise a shot on goal counter that counts down. That way we'll know when Quick has made his last save of the game and the game has come to a conclusion. Once they've figured that out, move that same technology over to the goal counter.