Freidman: don't expect Campbell to be back Leafs inital offer was 2.75 million per year

[zeke]

The depth didn’t perform because either, we can’t afford good depth because all the money goes to the “big boys” ……….or…….Dubas has no idea how to evaluate depth.
pick your poison.

TB Forwards vs TOR (7gms):

Top-4: 9gls, 21pts
Mid-4: 6gls, 14pts
Bot-4: 5gls, 8pts

TOR Forwards vs TB (7gms):

Top-4: 12gls, 30pts
Mid-4: 6gls, 11pts
Bot-4: 1gls, 9pts

FLA Forwards vs TB (4gms):

Top-4: 1gls, 5pts
Mid-4: 1gls, 1pts
Bot-4: 1gls, 1pts

NYR Forwards vs TB (5gms):

Top-4: 7gls, 15pts
Mid-4: 3gls, 8pts
Bot-4: 1gls, 4pts

 

[Racer88]

TB Forwards vs TOR (7gms):

Top-4: 9gls, 21pts
Mid-4: 6gls, 14pts
Bot-4: 5gls, 8pts

TOR Forwards vs TB (7gms):

Top-4: 12gls, 30pts
Mid-4: 6gls, 11pts
Bot-4: 1gls, 9pts

FLA Forwards vs TB (4gms):

Top-4: 1gls, 5pts
Mid-4: 1gls, 1pts
Bot-4: 1gls, 1pts

NYR Forwards vs TB (5gms):

Top-4: 7gls, 15pts
Mid-4: 3gls, 8pts
Bot-4: 1gls, 4pts

That’s just surface data. The fact remains that they didn’t perform when they had 2 chances to put Tampa away. In game 7 we only got 1 goal out of the entire team depth included. I don’t have the numbers in front of me but how many of those points were in the first high scoring game.

 

[stealth1]

How about just being the better goalie in Game 6 and not even letting it get to Game 7 last year and this year? Is that too much to ask?

How about the team showing up for games 2 and 4 instead of being happy with a split. A new goalie isn't going to fix the lack of killer instinct this team has.

That’s just surface data. The fact remains that they didn’t perform when they had 2 chances to put Tampa away. In game 7 we only got 1 goal out of the entire team depth included. I don’t have the numbers in front of me but how many of those points were in the first high scoring game.

That doesn't matter. The analytics will show you everything you to know.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Your exactly right…….it’s about when you produce that separates the great depth from irrelevant depth. So far Dubas has not been able to identify those types.
because the overall stats look ok we are going to run it all over again on the hopes and wishes from Dubasthat they can rise above what they are.
the same goes for Matthews and Marner. Couldn’t score when we needed them to. Couldn’t put the nail in Tampa’s Coffin when they had a chance

Again though to me that's more on the depth players not showing up I don't blame Matthews and Marner for losing the series.

Matthews had 9 points, Marner had 8 points they combined for 17 points in the series you can't ask for much more than that.

I lay the blame at the feet or Engvall, Kerfoot, Mikyehev, Bunting, Campbell my focus is on the supporting cast.

Not the big boys, not this time Matthews, Marner, Nylander Tavares and Rielly all had 6 points or more they all performed

If the Leafs trade Kerfoot one guy I'd try to to replace him with if Chicago doesn't qualify him is Kubalik.

I'd be all over Kubalik either as a Kerfoot replacement or a Mikyehev replacement

I'd be all over Kubalik

I think there will be some quality names not qualified there will be an opportunity to beef up the forward depth

 

[Nylanderthal]

Doesn't that prove his point lol. If the best #1 goalie can win THAT series with a sv% similar to Campbell. How can you shift all of the blame on Campbell?

Look I am not a superfan of Campbell either but Dubas got rid of Andersen (with 0 return value). So Campbell is all we got. Hoping for a miracle in FA or through trade is not a good strategy.

Andersen quit on the team. That’s fact.

 

[makbeer]

Andersen quit on the team. That’s fact.

It’s not fact. It’s a theory.

 

[Nylanderthal]

It’s not fact. It’s a theory.

Nah, he quit on the leafs just like he quit on the ducks one post season and even this season pulled the chute in Carolina.
A shit leopard can’t change its spots.

 

[Sundinisagod]

Bring back Jack

 

[ChickenMcNugget]

The Toronto Maple leafs, as of next season, may not have a good starter, may not have a good backup. It may not even have an average backup based on what is in the pipeline. but somehow some believe that Dubas will just wave his wand and make everything right.

I guess at this point some fans are just overdosed on copium. Honestly, i dont blame them.

Good luck.

 

[Zero1]

According to CJ the Leafs are trying to get a $1.5-2 mill goalie. Basically a reclamation project or a guy that’s under the radar.

I don’t know what to say.

Who would even fit the bill?

Matt Murray retained twice at 50% or bought-out? DeSmith? Holtby? Comrie? Kahkonen? Stolarz? Korpisalo?

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

According to CJ the Leafs are trying to get a $1.5-2 mill goalie. Basically a reclamation project or a guy that’s under the radar.

I don’t know what to say.

Who would even fit the bill?

Matt Murray retained twice at 50% or bought-out? DeSmith? Holtby? Comrie? Kahkonen? Stolarz? Korpisalo?

I heard the interview it was more speculation than legitimate info

 

[cannucky]

I’m dizzy from reading all the it’s a goal……no it’s not…….yes it is but it didn’t count……well then it’s not a goal.
the only fact that matters is Tampa moved on and the Leafs didn’t. Everything else is just a sales job

Just your usual "don't look behind the curtain" Dubas boys misdirection .

 

[Nineteen67]

We all saw the goal.

We all know.

we also saw a boneheaded play by Holl.

 

[Nineteen67]

That’s just surface data. The fact remains that they didn’t perform when they had 2 chances to put Tampa away. In game 7 we only got 1 goal out of the entire team depth included. I don’t have the numbers in front of me but how many of those points were in the first high scoring game.

We all saw the games and that data supports Cooper‘s comments about giving games away. When it mattered most, they buckled down and are now one win away from the SCF.

 

[BallardEra]

Campbell is asking for $5 million publicly he's probably gonna end up taking in the $3-4 range if and when he signs. It's just a negotiating tactic.

This doesn't mean the Leafs will sign him but I dunno many teams that'd pay $5 million for him. Maybe Edmonton?

His agent has said he wants $7 million per.

Some very dumb and desperate GMs out there and Campbell will get in the $4-5 million dollar range. Guys like Linus Ullmark and Cal Petersen are making $5 million so as an UFA I can easily see some GMs out there giving Campbell the same type of money.

The lack of goalie supply on the market also works in Campbell’s favour as well.

 

[The90]

That’s just surface data. The fact remains that they didn’t perform when they had 2 chances to put Tampa away. In game 7 we only got 1 goal out of the entire team depth included. I don’t have the numbers in front of me but how many of those points were in the first high scoring game.

Surface data that proves the garbage you came up with was wrong.

I like how you moved the goal posts from ‘they didn’t have depth’ to ‘they didn’t perform’ pretty easy to see your agenda lol

 

[ACC1224]

His agent has said he wants $7 million per.

Some very dumb and desperate GMs out there and Campbell will get in the $4-5 million dollar range. Guys like Linus Ullmark and Cal Petersen are making $5 million so as an UFA I can easily see some GMs out there giving Campbell the same type of money.

The lack of goalie supply on the market also works in Campbell’s favour as well.

I know a guy.

NHL Agent Poll: Maple Leafs’ Kyle Dubas Deemed Most Generous GM

A recent poll suggests that Toronto Maple Leafs general manager Kyle Dubas is — for better or worse — cozier with agents than the rest of his peers are.

www.forbes.com

 

[saltming]

Andersen quit on the team. That’s fact.

Optics say the opposite.
Get injured, comeback, get sat. Seems they didn't give him the chance to bounce back like he did with Carolina

Nah, he quit on the leafs just like he quit on the ducks one post season and even this season pulled the chute in Carolina.
A shit leopard can’t change its spots.

How is getting injured quitting on the team?

 

[ShaneFalco]

CJ thinks they're going to go after a reclamation project. If true great plan Dubes

 

[Nylanderthal]

Optics say the opposite.
Get injured, comeback, get sat. Seems they didn't give him the chance to bounce back like he did with Carolina


How is getting injured quitting on the team?

What injury? Three times in three different organizations he’s pulled the chute over an undiagnosed “knee injury”
Get informed

 

[Nylanderthal]

CJ thinks they're going to go after a reclamation project. If true great plan Dubes

CJ also suggested they’d be interested in Matt Murray, it sounded more like throwing stuff at the wall right now for news. Not like anything the leafs do leaks beforehand

 

[Nineteen67]

CJ thinks they're going to go after a reclamation project. If true great plan Dubes

Doesnt matter, the rebuild is over

 

[usernamezrhardtodo]

What injury? Three times in three different organizations he’s pulled the chute over an undiagnosed “knee injury”
Get informed

When a doctor can't specifically say what is wrong with your knee....its not a full blown injury. Fred has this knee that "Acts" up and it's up to him and only him to tell you when he can play. That to me is bailing. It was obvious the Leafs were scratching their head over why he wouldn't play. When the GM is hoping to get an idea from the player and not the team doctor...there is something fishy going on. He did it the Canes this year as well by refusing to go into game 7 when it was reported he was "close" to returning by game 4. I read they were really pissed he left them to play the 3rd stringer in a game 7.

 

[saltming]

What injury? Three times in three different organizations he’s pulled the chute over an undiagnosed “knee injury”
Get informed

The word injury is in your post.
Stop with the delusional posts.

He only played 52 games for the Canes.

 

[Nylanderthal]

The word injury is in your post.
Stop with the delusional posts.

It’s in quotations next to the word undiagnosed.
I’m delusional? I wonder how his current head coach feels, I mean he was pretty outward in his confusion with Freddie’s inability to be good to go when cleared by team docs.